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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:12 AM
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The Political Matrix. TAKE THIS TEST NOW and post your results.
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 12:35 AM by nickshepDEM
http://www.n00bshop.com/polimatrix/thetest.php

Negative = Left, Positive = Right

Ignore the part that says the test pegs you as socially and economically.... They havent fixed that, yet.

Two friends of mine at another forum created this test. Id say its fairly accurate. Give it a try and post your results.

My results:

Economic score: -2.69
Social score: 1.18

Feedback? Suggestions?
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melnjones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:12 AM
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1. link? nt
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:16 AM
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2. heres mine......
Economic score: -3.69
Social score: -4.18

Your score pegs you as economically and socially .
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andino Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:22 AM
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14. Mine
Economic score: -3.31
Social score: -5.55

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.

Strong social libertarians generally believe that the government should not judge morality, and are generally against the illegalization of things that do not directly affect other people in a negative way. Many strong social libertarians may also be social progressives, favouring legislation to correct what they see as socially backwards governmental regulation, although some simply wish for the government to make no judgement on social matters
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:32 PM
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116. Me too. Ugh.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:40 AM
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34. We are pretty close...wt hell does it mean?
Economic score: -3.23
Social score: -4.00
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:41 AM
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35. i dont have a clue....
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melnjones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:18 AM
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3. my results...
Economic score: -5.54
Social score: -3.09
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:18 AM
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4. Here is mine.
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 12:27 AM by Mass
Result

Economic score: -7.23
Social score: -6.36

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.

(The libertarian stuff is definitively false).
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:18 AM
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5. Did it
Economic score: -7.69
Social score: -6.36

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.


Strong social libertarians generally believe that the government should not judge morality, and are generally against the illegalization of things that do not directly affect other people in a negative way. Many strong social libertarians may also be social progressives, favouring legislation to correct what they see as socially backwards governmental regulation, although some simply wish for the government to make no judgement on social matters.
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:18 AM
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6. My score
Economic score: -5.38
Social score: -6.36

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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:19 AM
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7. hmm. Never considered myself a libertarian --
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 12:21 AM by enlightenment
met too many gun-totin' "right of the people to bear arms" types who claim that title.

One of us is clearly confused!

Your friends should add a "gun control" question . . .

on edit: I'll go with the social progressive part.

Result
Economic score: -5.85
Social score: -6.36

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.

Strong social libertarians generally believe that the government should not judge morality, and are generally against the illegalization of things that do not directly affect other people in a negative way. Many strong social libertarians may also be social progressives, favouring legislation to correct what they see as socially backwards governmental regulation, although some simply wish for the government to make no judgement on social matters.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:20 AM
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9. Good idea. Im going to make that suggestion.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:23 AM
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16. neat.
And I feel better now, seeing I'm in excellent company!
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:21 AM
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11. The part that says you are socially and economically....
Isnt working so just forget that. The important thing is the #'s.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:56 AM
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66. Ditto, very similar score and same reaction...
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:20 AM
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8. mine...
Economic score: -4.77
Social score: -5.27

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.

Strong social libertarians generally believe that the government should not judge morality, and are generally against the illegalization of things that do not directly affect other people in a negative way. Many strong social libertarians may also be social progressives, favouring legislation to correct what they see as socially backwards governmental regulation, although some simply wish for the government to make no judgement on social matters.
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Aimah Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:21 AM
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10. What does the score mean?
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 12:23 AM by Aimah
It doesn't explain the meaning behind the test or the score.



Economic score: -4.77
Social score: -3.09


Your score pegs you as economically and socially

It doesn't say anything other than that.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:22 AM
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12. 0's would mean smack dad in the center.
Your obviously left of center. I believe -8,+8 are tha max.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:27 AM
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26. Strongly libertarian???
Hm.

-7.4 Economic
-6.0 Social.

I'm a Canadian.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:52 AM
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58. Maybe I belong in Canada...
... :)

Economic score: -7.31
Social score: -7.36

The summary conclusion, is, of course, wrong. My score actually implies a strong belief in preventing government from intruding on personal privacy and a strong belief in controlling and regulating corporations.
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:22 AM
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13. Damn, Im the only person so far to be right of center on social issues.
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 12:22 AM by nickshepDEM
Economic score: -2.69
Social score: 1.18
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:32 AM
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61. Why do you hate America?
:sarcasm:
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:53 AM
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72. LOL, me no hate American.
I think Im right of center on social issues because of my answer to affirmative action and abortion. Im somewhat, get ready, pro-life. Although I do not push my beliefs on other people. Also I do not support race based affirmative action. I prefer socio-economic affirmative action.
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spancks Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:23 AM
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15. Boo hoo!!!
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 12:43 AM by spancks
It told me I'm strongly libertarian! Well, everyone, I guess I'm going to have to start hanging with the freepers. What am I gonna do? I'll have to forget how to spell... :(
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:25 AM
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19. delete
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 12:25 AM by Mass
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:25 AM
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20. Dont pay attention to the 'libertarian' thing.
They havent fixed that yet. The numbers are what matters.
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spancks Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:41 AM
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36. Oh okay, whew!
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 12:43 AM by spancks
here's my score:

Economic score: -6.46
Social score: -7.45

I think something must have been fixed already because now it says I'm a far leftist. Much better... :)
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:24 PM
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85. I was going to say,
seems like EVERYONE is "strongly libertarian". :)
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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:56 AM
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74. and with that...
I leave the board for the day. Only place that offers hope for our nation and our government, again, holds no salvation for the likes of all "others". 'Cause of a label, and a bunch of neocons. As if I ever sided with those monsters.

Libertarians. Keep up the trash talking. I'm sure it will get you far. Worked for them, after all. Why be any different, you're already virtually guaranteed the win, and on this board, it's legal. You can say anything you like, and as the new majority, get away with it, easily. It must feel good, it must be satisfying.

Need to find a place with less hatred. I wanted a large board for information, diversity, traffic and company. Turns out, any that aren't neocon are like this one, and you people have NO problem throwing hate speech at the other political parties. JUST like them. RIGHT at me.

Thanks a hell of a lot.

Have a good day ya'll. I was looking for another oasis.

No, don't fucking bother answering, I won't be back. Jerks.
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electricray Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:25 AM
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17. Dude, I'm a communist?
Economic score: -8.15
Social score: -7.45

Your score pegs you as economically and socially far-leftist.


Social far-leftists generally go beyond simply being against government invention in social matters, and instead believe the government should actively make reperations for its past evils toward blacks and other minority groups. Those who score in this category tend to have a strong distrust of government, especially when it comes to its treatment of what they see as disadvantaged groups.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:25 AM
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18. Mine
Economic Score: -6.46
Social Score: -4.55

Socially and economically WHAT? Waaaaaaaah! I'm all negative.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:32 AM
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30. My results were super close to yours PassingFair...
Economic score: -6.31
Social score: -4.55

Wazzit mean? :shrug:
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:33 AM
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31. It just basically shows how far left or right you are on the issues.
Negatives = Left, Positives = Right.

You wont find to many positives on this board. ;)
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:36 AM
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32. Well Nickster....
Don't you dare let your low numbers change you one iota!

You're a "Warner '08 Democrat" and that's all that matters! ~~~~
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:38 AM
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33. Yeah, Ive always been a center/center-right on social issues.
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 12:47 AM by nickshepDEM
Im nowhere near a wingnut though. My econmic score may be a bit off. Im definitely 100% Democrat when it comes to economics. Very pro-union, pro-power to the people, not corporations, etc... I vote only on economic issues. Thats all that matters to me. Poverty, good benefits and wages for workers, tax breaks for the working class, less outsourcing, etc...

Warner Democrat? You betcha'. :)
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:44 AM
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40. I copied off ya! ..................n/t
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:25 AM
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21. Hmm pretty close I guess,
Economic score: -8.85
Social score: -7.55

Your score pegs you as economically and socially far-leftist.

Social far-leftists generally go beyond simply being against government invention in social matters, and instead believe the government should actively make reperations for its past evils toward blacks and other minority groups. Those who score in this category tend to have a strong distrust of government, especially when it comes to its treatment of what they see as disadvantaged groups.
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:26 AM
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22. I Love This -- I Thought I Was A Social Libertarian!
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 12:33 AM by Tace
Economic score: -5.69
Social score: -8.18

Your score pegs you as economically and socially far-leftist.

Social far-leftists generally go beyond simply being against government invention in social matters, and instead believe the government should actively make reperations for its past evils toward blacks and other minority groups. Those who score in this category tend to have a strong distrust of government, especially when it comes to its treatment of what they see as disadvantaged groups.

On Edit: I took the test again, with a slightly different emphasis on "Very Important" and came up with this (Same economic score, different Social score):

Economic score: -5.69
Social score: -6.36

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.

Strong social libertarians generally believe that the government should not judge morality, and are generally against the illegalization of things that do not directly affect other people in a negative way. Many strong social libertarians may also be social progressives, favouring legislation to correct what they see as socially backwards governmental regulation, although some simply wish for the government to make no judgement on social matters.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:26 AM
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23. I took it.
It gave me scores of:

Economic score: -6.15
Social score: -4.73

Your score pegs you as economically and socially .


I have no idea what any of that means.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:27 AM
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24. here's mine....
Economic score: -5.38
Social score: -6.36

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.

There were some items that weren't that important to me. I think those were the telling points for me.
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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:27 AM
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Hummmm
Economic score: -7.08
Social score: -6.55

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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:27 AM
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25. What's the interpretation?
Economic score: -8.23
Social score: -4.64

Your score pegs you as economically and socially .
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:29 AM
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27. Negative = left, Postitive = right.
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 12:29 AM by nickshepDEM
Your pretty far left on both. I think -9 is the max on the left and +9 is the max on the right.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:29 AM
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28. My score
Economic score: -5.69
Social score: -5.27

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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:55 AM
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65. Am I the most liberal? -5.38 and -6.73
Result

Economic score: -5.38
Social score: -6.73

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.


Strong social libertarians generally believe that the government should not judge morality, and are generally against the illegalization of things that do not directly affect other people in a negative way. Many strong social libertarians may also be social progressives, favouring legislation to correct what they see as socially backwards governmental regulation, although some simply wish for the government to make no judgement on social matters.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:29 AM
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29. Mine...
Economic score: -8.62
Social score: -6.36

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.

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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:42 AM
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37. DUH!
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 12:43 AM by ProudDad
Result

Economic score: -8.08
Social score: -7.55

Your score pegs you as economically and socially far-leftist.


Pretty amazing that I would vote for any democrat, eh? :evilgrin:
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California Griz Donating Member (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:42 AM
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38. Always thought
I was a good way left of most here
Economic score: -9.31
Social score: -7.55

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alconvsc Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:44 AM
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39. Important-ish: From the author
Feedback is welcomed...

By the way, ignore the libertarian thing. It really is "economically (blank) and socially libertarian." If the numbers are both negative, it's left-of-centre, regardless of what the text thing says.

By the way, a -10/-10 or +10/+10 score IS possible...it just maxes out at 8 unless you choose the "very important to me" option.

You folks get a bad rap but you seem perfectly nice to me. Just don't let Fidel win any more of those polls. (I kid, I kid...*g*)

Alcon
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:54 AM
Response to Reply #39
44. Very interesting test, Alcon. I think we're all having fun comparing our
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 12:55 AM by chalky
shiny new scores. :)
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alconvsc Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:56 AM
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45. Glad you like it!
If anyone has any questions to add, feel free to drop me a line at trafton(REMOVE)ofjj2@yahoo.com. I might not be able to access this site tomorrow, but I will have email.

Thanks and enjoy. :)
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:52 AM
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41. Economic score: -9.77; Social score: -7.55
"Your score pegs you as economically and socially far-leftist."

I did not necessarily need a quiz to tell me this.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:58 AM
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67. lol...
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:52 AM
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42. Mine?
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 12:53 AM by chalky
Economic score: -8.31
Social score: -4.36

"Your score pegs you as economically and socially...." (left, I'm assuming).

Yeah. "It's the Economy, Stupid." I miss that motto.

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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:54 AM
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43. Left-hand path, baby. You're damn right : )
Result

Economic score: -7.38
Social score: -7.45

Your score pegs you as economically and socially far-leftist.


Social far-leftists generally go beyond simply being against government invention in social matters, and instead believe the government should actively make reperations for its past evils toward blacks and other minority groups. Those who score in this category tend to have a strong distrust of government, especially when it comes to its treatment of what they see as disadvantaged groups.
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Acryliccalico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:01 AM
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46. Scores don't mean anything.
I took a Research Methods class and all a test tells you is how you feel about things right this minute. My scores were: Economic = -7.69
Social = -6.00

Thats about how I feel right now :) :kick:
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Proud2BaLiberalMom Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:09 AM
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47. PROUD TO BE PROGRESSIVE!!!
Economic score: -8.92
Social score: -7.09

Your score pegs you as economically and socially far-leftist.


Social far-leftists generally go beyond simply being against government invention in social matters, and instead believe the government should actively make reperations for its past evils toward blacks and other minority groups. Those who score in this category tend to have a strong distrust of government, especially when it comes to its treatment of what they see as disadvantaged groups.

:kick:
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meatloaf Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:12 AM
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48. Damn, I guess I really am a Socialist.
Economic score: -9.15
Social score: -9.18

Don't really agree with some of their assessments, for instance I don't advocate reperations for groups we've wronged in the past, because I don't believe the children are responsible for the sins of their parents.
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meatloaf Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:17 AM
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50. Am I the farthest left whacko on DU?
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:29 AM
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52. So far....
:hi:
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meatloaf Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:32 AM
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55. I'm so proud... I'd like to thank the academy, my agent, my wife....
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LifeDuringWartime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:15 AM
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49. am i one of the "loony left"??
Economic score: -5.08
Social score: -6.55

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.

Strong social libertarians generally believe that the government should not judge morality, and are generally against the illegalization of things that do not directly affect other people in a negative way. Many strong social libertarians may also be social progressives, favouring legislation to correct what they see as socially backwards governmental regulation, although some simply wish for the government to make no judgement on social matters.


:evilgrin:
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Ysolde Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:25 AM
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51. My results...
Economic score: -6.62
Social score: -5.82

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.


Some of the questions are kind of hard to answer the way they're worded. One that gave me fits is the question about parents deciding what kids can watch. I totally agree with that, but I also don't think corporations should be given free range on the open airwaves, so I didn't know how to correctly answer that question.

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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:29 AM
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53. Economic score: -3.54 Social score: -6.91



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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:31 AM
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54. totally funky test.. I bet most Right Brained people couldnt finish it..
i couldnt
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:34 AM
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56. This is me
Result

Economic score: -4.77
Social score: -5.64

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.


Strong social libertarians generally believe that the government should not judge morality, and are generally against the illegalization of things that do not directly affect other people in a negative way. Many strong social libertarians may also be social progressives, favouring legislation to correct what they see as socially backwards governmental regulation, although some simply wish for the government to make no judgement on social matters.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:49 AM
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57. nickshepDEM
Result

Economic score: -6.31
Social score: -4.73

Your score pegs you as economically and socially .

My input;) You need to let it all hang out. You a little too "I voted against that resolution after I voted for it."

Just kidding, takes all kinds.

Where do you think our governor would score on that (Mark not John)?

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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:38 AM
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69. Mark Warner, Id say...
Econ: -2/-3
Social: -4
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:45 PM
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83. On Warner, I think you're about right. Lets see when he goes national.
He's a good politician for Virginia because he understands what works here and what's needed. In a lot of ways, we have a more advanced agenca than other parts of the c ountry...afterall, when we say improve education, we actually do something about it; the fiber to the rural areas is a real modern Virginia concept and plan; and the state funded nano-technology research, yikes, smart!

Now Warner is going national. It will be interesting to drop. I'd say the smart approach would be (if he really believes it) a point to the left in either direction, dumpt the DLC and run as everyman's candidate from business to workers. I think he could pull it off if he did that. He comes across as extremely bright, which he is, and he'd attract a broader crowd. I'd hate to seem him type-cast as candidate of business or the "moderates." Won't fly, people are too pissed off now. Imagine how they'll feel when the real estate market has a big burp.

Clark/Warner; Warner/Clark; Gore/Warner (now that's one I really like).
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Debs Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:45 AM
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59. here is my score
Economic score: -8.62
Social score: -5.82

Never thought of myself as libertarian. Just a run of the mill liberal
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:30 AM
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60. Economic score: -3.08 Social score: -6.36



Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:49 AM
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62. Economic: -5.85 Social: -6.00
Strongly Libertarian
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:47 AM
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63. Mine
Economic score: -6.46
Social score: -3.82

Your score pegs you as economically and socially .
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:54 AM
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64. Well, I'm left.
Economic score: -5.23
Social score: -2.36
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:17 AM
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68. libertarian...
no.

Socially, maybe...but definitely not economically.

And my responses to the questions should have indicated that.

This quiz might have potential, but clearly has some kinks to be worked out.
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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:42 AM
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70. So there
Now folks can quit picking on me for being a libertarian.

Result

Economic score: -4.00
Social score: -8.91

Your score pegs you as economically and socially far-leftist.

Social far-leftists generally go beyond simply being against government invention in social matters, and instead believe the government should actively make reperations for its past evils toward blacks and other minority groups. Those who score in this category tend to have a strong distrust of government, especially when it comes to its treatment of what they see as disadvantaged groups.
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TruthStream_dot_org Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:46 AM
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71. My Results (libertarian??)
Economic score: -5.08
Social score: -6.00

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.


Strong social libertarians generally believe that the government should not judge morality, and are generally against the illegalization of things that do not directly affect other people in a negative way. Many strong social libertarians may also be social progressives, favouring legislation to correct what they see as socially backwards governmental regulation, although some simply wish for the government to make no judgement on social matters.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:54 AM
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73. The politics that shall not be uttered
Economic score: -8.31
Social score: -3.27

Your score pegs you as economically and socially .
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Ursus Rex Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:13 AM
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75. Wow - no wonder I don't fit in in GA.
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 11:19 AM by web-abbadon
Economic score: -6.46
Social score: -4.73

My description was blank, which is a frequently-heard leitmotif in my life

oh my goodness - will They revoke my NRA card, hunting license, and *two* degrees from the U. of Alabama?

edited to correct spelling of "degrees" = oh, the irony ;)
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:31 AM
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77. According to that score
You're a Canadian!
:P
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:29 AM
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76. Pretty far off the mark for me
Result

Economic score: -5.77
Social score: -5.91

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.


Strong social libertarians generally believe that the government should not judge morality, and are generally against the illegalization of things that do not directly affect other people in a negative way. Many strong social libertarians may also be social progressives, favouring legislation to correct what they see as socially backwards governmental regulation, although some simply wish for the government to make no judgement on social matters.
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Here all this time I thought I was a progressive democrat

I think their system is rife with innacuracies or presuppositions related to progressives. By any chance do the authors of this poll reside on the East Coast?

This is not to say that I don't agree that Libertarians have more in common with democrats than republicans.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:34 AM
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78. Here's mine...
Economic score: -8.13
Social score: -7.53

It shows me as being a far leftist, which is correct. The strange thing, as far as statistics are concerned, is that I'm going to be 63 on my next birthday, and have gotten more liberal as I've gotten older.

I know we're supposed to become more conservative as we age, or at least that's always been the accepted idea, but I think that the more I see of life, the more compassion I have learned, and the more understanding of how we are in this world together, and need to support and nurture each other.
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ProudBlue08 Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:36 AM
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79. Here's mine
Economic Score: -3.69
Social Score: -3.27
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:51 AM
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80. It's stealth promotion of libertarianism.
Don't be fooled, there's two kinds of libertarianism - the original left-wing one, and the more recent right-wing one.

So, any classification as "libertarian" is pointless unless it is specified which kind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

The political spectrum isn't that complicated anyway;
In the end, there's only two kinds of politics: one that favors self-governance by the people (aka democracy), and another that favors rule by a minority (aka despotism). The latter can only be established by force and/or deception, since it is opposed to the interests of the majority.
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alconvsc Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:03 AM
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97. Well...you have discovered my secret plot!
My libertarian conversion plot did not pass you it seems!

In all seriousness, I am using the definition as liberal. I'm not sure what a conservative libertarian would be - I'm familiar with the European definition of liberal as the American definition of libertarian. In support of unrestricted free trade, less government in general, etc.

By the way, there are only two political views if you choose to make them two...otherwise there are infinite ones. A spectrum can be as bipolar as you want, or as infinite. :)

Thanks for your comments,
Alcon
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:09 AM
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105. There are an infinite number of position between the extremes
but there are only two extremes, and the spectrum is in between those. Indeed there are an infinite number of shades in between total democracy and total despotism. (see http://www.archive.org/details/Despotis1946)

Did you read the link i provided? That's not an uncommon description of libertarianism, and is smells strongly of RW.

Is it coincidence that the RW also support so-called "free trade" and small government? Have you been following threads on DU about so called free trade agreements such as NAFTA and CAFTA? I you have, you'd know that so-called free trade is free in name only - and that contrary to promises it does not help the population of developing nations who enter those agreements.

Can you name even one example of a developing nation where free-trade/globalization has not been a disaster?

"...look we tried to help Bolivia, it went under. We tried to help Brazil, it exploded. We tried to help Indonesia, it was burning in riots. Maybe there's a pattern here."
- Stiglitz, to his bosses at the World Bank (he was fired shorty after)

This while even according to the 2000 IMF "World Outlook" report, results have been less then encouraging; "in recent decades nearly one-fifth of the world population has regressed. This is arguably one of the greatest economic failures of the 20th century."

"The only economies that seemed to be doing well were China, Vietnam, Botswana, Venezuela and the United States. What did all five of those economies have in common? All five told the IMF to go to hell and that includes the United States who does not listen to the IMF dictates at all."
http://www.zmag.org/content/GlobalEconomics/hart_palast_globalization.cfm

Also see Greg Palast's "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy"
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0452283914/103-9453554-4635857?v=glance&n=283155&v=glance
http://www.gregpalast.com


and some more:

NAFTA's chapter 11

"...gives corporations rights to sue governments in special tribunals, for unlimited compensation for profits lost due to normal governments activities."

"...there have been cases, like "Metalclad".
An American company called "Metalclad" went down to Mexico to build a toxic waste dump on an aquafer; the local supply of water. The government said "no, this goes against our environmental laws".
The people are getting poisoned from the water - what corporation has a right to poison our water? The government passed a law that said "no, you can't operate this thing".
They said "that's to bad, we have rights as a corporation that outweigh your human rights". They sued them for 17.5 million dollars saying it was a barrier to fee trade.
This US corporation takes the Mexican government to a NAFTA court, sues under this chapter eleven, and the ruling is - the Mexican government has to pay millions of dollars in "penalties", for "lost profits" of this corporation."

from the documentary "Trading Freedom" (Indymedia)
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2004/01/284511.html

also documented at

Berkeley University
http://are.berkeley.edu/courses/EEP131/classpresentations/Metalclad.pdf (PDF)
(turns out the amount in penalties to be payed by the Mexican government was reduced, but "...the judge agreed with the NAFTA panel on the merits that the actions of the Governor constituted expropriation".

New York Law Journal
http://www.clm.com/pubs/pub-990359_1.html

Stop FTAA
http://www.stopftaa.org/article.php?id=37

"NAFTA Chapter 11 Investor-to-State Cases: Bankrupting Democracy"
http://are.berkeley.edu/courses/EEP131/Nafta_Chapter11.pdf (PDF)
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:56 AM
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81. mine.
economic -9.62
social -8.45

scores pegs me as far leftist. :wow: I did not know that about me. :yoiks:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:59 PM
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82. Ecom = -6.77 Social = -8.00 far leftist
Oddly, I have become more and more liberal as I have gotten older, isn't usually the other way around? Huh, go figure :)
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:21 PM
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84. Mine:
Economic score: -3.23
Social score: -6.55

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.


Strong social libertarians generally believe that the government should not judge morality, and are generally against the illegalization of things that do not directly affect other people in a negative way. Many strong social libertarians may also be social progressives, favouring legislation to correct what they see as socially backwards governmental regulation, although some simply wish for the government to make no judgement on social matters.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:03 PM
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86. Hmmmm, both scores at -9.00 Far Leftist
I'm so shocked!
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:38 PM
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87.  Economic score: -6.69 Social score: -6.09 Strong Libertarian.
I usually come out a socialist or to the left of Ghandi.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:00 AM
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104. where are you finding your 'labels'
Mine said nothing. Econ: -6.31 and Soc. -3.82, what the frig does that mean?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:35 PM
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109. It said it right next to the numbers when I took it.
And then it has a little description underneath. I don't know why you aren't seeing it but it was there for me.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:02 PM
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88. nice test
Economic score: -9.23
Social score: -6.73

I consider myself a moderate socialist who loves co-ops.
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Spock_is_Skeptical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:23 PM
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89. Economic: -10.00 Social: -9.09
Economic score: -10.00
Social score: -9.09

Your score pegs you as economically and socially far-leftist.

(Nahhh, really???)
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:28 PM
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90. I was scored at
-7.62 economic -7.18 social. I think the economic score is pretty close for me but I think they overestimated my social score.
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:30 PM
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91. Me.
Economic score: -4.31
Social score: -4.36

So I'm a moderate leftist commie.;-)
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:37 PM
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92. Posting Results...now if I could just understand what it means...
I would be set....
Economic Score -3.54
Social Score -3.45 I am thinking it means I am left of center...perhaps there needs to be a numerical chart that shows where a particular score ends up versus any other score...
windbreeze
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:59 PM
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93. Economic: -4.15 Social: -7.64 "Far-leftist" on both. Go Figure.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:27 PM
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94. Far leftist; as if I didn't know
Economic -5.69
Social -7.27
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:07 AM
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95. Here's mine.
Economic score: -7.69
Social score: -6.91
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:25 AM
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96. Here's my score
Economic score: -6.46
Social score: -0.18

I guess that makes me an economic liberal and a social moderate.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:50 AM
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98. Another "social libertarian" here, apparently
Result

Economic score: -7.08
Social score: -5.09

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.

Strong social libertarians generally believe that the government should not judge morality, and are generally against the illegalization of things that do not directly affect other people in a negative way. Many strong social libertarians may also be social progressives, favouring legislation to correct what they see as socially backwards governmental regulation, although some simply wish for the government to make no judgement on social matters.


Last time I saw a poll with this many "libertarian" results it was sponsored by........

....wait for it.......

......The LIBERTARIAN party!

You aren't recruiting for them, are you Nick?

Seriously, never thought about joining that party. There's a lot of things I could agree with them on, but they want to shrink government a little too much for my taste.
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RadiDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:59 AM
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99. Economic -7.08, Scocial -5.27
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 04:09 AM
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100. Here's mine
Economic score: -6.77
Social score: -6.91
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 04:31 AM
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101. My score...
Result

Economic score: -8.38
Social score: -5.00

Your score pegs you as economically and socially .
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:30 AM
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102. Yikes!
OMG! I would have never thought I was anything other than left of left!

Economic score: -6.31
Social score: -6.36

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.

Strong social libertarians generally believe that the government should not judge morality, and are generally against the illegalization of things that do not directly affect other people in a negative way. Many strong social libertarians may also be social progressives, favouring legislation to correct what they see as socially backwards governmental regulation, although some simply wish for the government to make no judgement on social matters.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:57 AM
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103. Okay, so I took the test, but there is no explanation
of what the freaking results mean?

Economic: -6.31
Social: -3.82

Is this one of those you are a libertarian tests??
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LiberalPersona Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:52 AM
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106. Did it
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 06:55 AM by LiberalPersona
Economic score: -6.15
Social score: -5.09
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:00 AM
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107. My score
Economic score: -5.69
Social score: -8.00

Your score pegs you as economically and socially far-leftist.

Social far-leftists generally go beyond simply being against government invention in social matters, and instead believe the government should actively make reperations for its past evils toward blacks and other minority groups. Those who score in this category tend to have a strong distrust of government, especially when it comes to its treatment of what they see as disadvantaged groups.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:12 AM
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108. results say i'm normal.
so let's gut every part of bushco immediately. or sooner.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:43 PM
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110. My score
Economic score: -7.38
Social score: -4.18

I guess that puts me pretty far left. That would be about right, err, correct.
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:47 PM
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111. here are my results....
Economic score: -5.54
Social score: -4.18

so what does that mean?
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:14 PM
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112. doesn't make sense
"Result

Economic score: -9.38
Social score: -5.82

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian."



The kind of libertarians we hear about occasionally are in favor of so-called free-trade/free-market (which i know is a scam that favors the rich at the expense of the poor).

I voted "Strongly Disagree - issue very important to me" on the question
"18. Government regulation is unnecessary, as a free market naturally provides its own regulation."

I disapprove passionately of self-regulation for corporations.

And yet supposedly i am "economically strongly libertarian".

I identify myself as far-left/anarcho-syndicalist.
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lovelaureng Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:22 PM
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113. Here's my results,
Result

Economic score: -4.00
Social score: -3.09

Your score pegs you as economically and socially.

What does it mean? :shrug:
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:27 PM
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114. -6.62 economic, -2.18 social. My question is: what's the highest score?
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 07:30 PM by AZBlue
For example, am I a -2.18 out of possible -10 for social?

As for the relative scoring, I'd say it's correct - I'm more liberal when it comes to economic issues and a slightly more conservative on social issues.


BTW, my score page just said:
"Your score pegs you as economically and socially"
Didn't give me a "label."



Very interesting!
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:29 PM
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115. My results:
Result

Economic score: -7.38
Social score: -8.00

Your score pegs you as economically and socially far-leftist.


Social far-leftists generally go beyond simply being against government invention in social matters, and instead believe the government should actively make reperations for its past evils toward blacks and other minority groups. Those who score in this category tend to have a strong distrust of government, especially when it comes to its treatment of what they see as disadvantaged groups.
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phattyt Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:50 PM
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117. Interesting...
Economic score: -4.77
Social score: -7.45

Your score pegs you as economically and socially far-leftist.

Social far-leftists generally go beyond simply being against government invention in social matters, and instead believe the government should actively make reperations for its past evils toward blacks and other minority groups. Those who score in this category tend to have a strong distrust of government, especially when it comes to its treatment of what they see as disadvantaged groups.


For the most part I would say this is accurate
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Cozmosis Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:06 PM
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118. Well then
Economic score: 1.85
Social score: -6.55

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.

Am I in the wrong forum? :(
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steelyboo Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:08 PM
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119. here ya go
Result

Economic score: -6.31
Social score: -5.82
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earthmama Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:36 PM
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120. here are mine
Economic score: -7.92
Social score: -5.91

Your score pegs you as economically and socially strongly libertarian.

Strong social libertarians generally believe that the government should not judge morality, and are generally against the illegalization of things that do not directly affect other people in a negative way. Many strong social libertarians may also be social progressives, favouring legislation to correct what they see as socially backwards governmental regulation, although some simply wish for the government to make no judgement on social matters.
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domlaw Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:43 PM
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121. far-leftist But I'm a Canadian and this is considered Center.
Economic score: -6.00
Social score: -7.45

Your score pegs you as economically and socially far-leftist.


Social far-leftists generally go beyond simply being against government invention in social matters, and instead believe the government should actively make reperations for its past evils toward blacks and other minority groups. Those who score in this category tend to have a strong distrust of government, especially when it comes to its treatment of what they see as disadvantaged groups.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:43 PM
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122. I was rated a far leftist
how great is that?
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