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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:02 PM
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John Kerry's Voting Record
Slur this guy all you want but here is Kerry's voting record. Go and look him up and then try to portray him as anything at all like Bush.

Partial Birth Abortion 2003 - NO
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=3332&can_id=S0421103

Re-affirm Roe V Wade 1999 - YES
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=2618&can_id=S0421103

Allow for abortion counseling 1991 - YES
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=47&can_id=S0421103

Table motion to eliminate funding for NEA 1999 (this was to kill an attempt to eliminate NEA funding) - YES
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=2418&can_id=S0421103

Vote to adopt a conference report on a bill that would call for a more comprehensive disclosure of corporate finances and overhaul regulation of the accounting industry 2002 - YES
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=3192&can_id=S0421103

Vote to propose a constitutional amendment prohibiting the physical desecration of the U.S. flag. 2000 - NO
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=2692&can_id=S0421103

Vote to pass a bill to prohibit marriage between members of the same sex in federal law, and provide that no state is required to recognize same-sex marriages performed in other states. 1999 - NO
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=1105&can_id=S0421103

Vote to pass a bill prohibiting job discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. 1999 - YES
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=1106&can_id=S0421103

Vote to pass an amendment that would reduce the size of the $1.6 trillion tax cut by $448 billion while increasing education spending by $250 billion and providing an increase of approximately $224 billion for debt reduction over 10 years. 2001 - YES
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=2960&can_id=S0421103

Amendment to ban affirmative action hiring with legislative branch funds. 1995 - NO
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=653&can_id=S0421103

Vote to preserve language in the Fiscal Year 2001 Budget Framework that assumes $1.2 billion in revenue from oil exploration in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska. 2000 - NO
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=2703&can_id=S0421103

Vote to table an amendment that removes language from the bill delaying the implementation of certain mining regulations until the National Academy of Sciences conducts a study. 1998 - NO
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=2048&can_id=S0421103

Vote to confirm the nomination of John D. Ashcroft as Attorney General. 2000 - NO
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=2922&can_id=S0421103

Amendment to reduce reserve fund for possible future tax cuts and use money for social programs. 1995 - YES
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=585&can_id=S0421103

Vote to table an amendment that would raise the minimum wage by $1 an hour over two years, beginning on January 1, 2000. 1999 - NO
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=2643&can_id=S0421103

Vote to pass a bill that would allow senior citizens ages 65 through 69 to continue to earn money without a reduction in their Social Security benefits. 2000 - YES
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=2683&can_id=S0421103

Vote on an amendment to add $13 billion to the president's budget for
veterans benefits and services between 1997 and 2002, paid for by making
changes in corporate tax law. 1996 - YES
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=918&can_id=S0421103

Vote to allow consideration of an amendment to reinstate food stamps for the children of legal immigrants. 1997 - YES
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=1314&can_id=S0421103

Vote on a procedural motion to allow consideration of an amendment to require states to do random drug tests on welfare and food stamp recipients. 1996 - NO
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=1066&can_id=S0421103


In summation:

Kerry voted for abortion rights, for funding of teh National Endowment of the Arts, increased government regulation of the insurance industry, against an amendment banning flag desecration (ie for freedom of speech), against banning gay marriage, against workplace discrimination against gays, in favor of affirmative action, against destroying government regulation of mining practices, against oil drilling in alaska, in favor of cutting bush's tax cut and useing the money for increased spending on education and debt reduction, against the confirmation of John Ashcroft, against another tax cut so the money could be used for social programs, in favor of raising the minimum wage, in favor of allowing seniors to receive social security while still working, to increase corporate taxes to fund veteran's health benefits, in favor of allowing the children of immigrants to be eligible for food stamps (welfare) and finally against drug testing welfare recipients.

Yeh he's a real right wing whackjob isnt he? Almost everything I listed there are the exact OPPOSITE of Bush's stated policies. They are nothing alike.
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:05 PM
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1. Thank you!
I have been getting sick of the misinformation as well.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:13 PM
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7. Sick of the misinformation?
Hoo, boy...it's just getting started.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:09 PM
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2. Whew! Lots of work done there.
Thanks for all of your work in posting this. Good info. Doubt it will change any minds here, but kudos anyway.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:11 PM
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3. WOW - a lot of work and detail
I am bookmarking this because I'm sure we'll all need it in the future. :toast: :kick:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:11 PM
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4. That's WHEN He Shows Up To Vote. He MISSED 60% This Year
And he's written NO significant Legislation.

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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:13 PM
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6. and this makes kerry a right wing conervative how?
That wasn't the question. Talk about a straw man argument though.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:16 PM
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11. No, it doesn't make him a 'right-wing conservative'
But it does call his abilities into question.

Which bills were in that 60% that he managed to fail to vote on?

How many of them were important? How many could he have made a difference on?

How seriously does he take his job, anyway? 60%?!!!!

Wouldn't you or I be fired, or at least not promoted, for that kind of performance?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:18 PM
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13. How many could he have made a difference on?
Exactly NONE!

Now name one bill he could have made a difference on and please, tell us how he could have made a difference and what the difference could have been.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:27 PM
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21. Thanks but no thanks, I'll leave that to his defenders
If someone who thinks Kerry is great wants to prove that his abdication of his responsibilities didn't represent anything more than laziness and not outright negligence, that's fine.

I support another candidate, whose voting record I'll happily defend, though.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:30 PM
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23. I'm not surprised
You're willing to claim that Kerry abdicated his responsibilities but unwilling to back it up with some facts
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:34 PM
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25. That's not a claim, that's a fact
Voting on bills is one of his responsibilities, which he clearly did not show up for over half the time.

What's not clear here?

What I am not willing to do is to try to whitewash his missing votes so it doesn't look so bad. If you want to help him out that way, fine. I don't.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:36 PM
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26. You might want to re-read the Constitution
Votng on bills are NOT a "responsibility". It's a "power"

What's not clear here?

Your understanding of the Constitution and the powers of govt.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:46 PM
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28. So what do you think their job is? Making speeches?!
For God's sake!

:eyes:
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:34 PM
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31. Kerry's job is beating Bush, and he will.

I hope, eventually, you will join us, if not I wish you the best of luck in your efforts.

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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:36 PM
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32. Read the Constitution
if you want to know what their job is. I'm not Google.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:14 PM
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9. Do the words "pot" and "black" ring a bell?
oh - that's right - you didn't say who your candidate was.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:50 PM
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27. Most recent is the Overtime Issue in the Senate.....
Last week, before New Hampshire Primaries, all the insiders were in New Hampshire when the votes were being cast. That would be; Edwards, Kerry and Lieberman....

All No Shows


Thats why they will not get my vote.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:48 PM
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29. Do you know what the vote was on that?
How close was it in the Senate?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:37 PM
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33. There was no vote on the Overtime issue
because it wasn't a seperate bill. It was part of an appropriations bill, IIRC.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:12 PM
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5. I Notice You Don't Cite Kerry's Votes FOR Telecom Industry
and AGAINST the public interest.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:13 PM
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8. hmmm so your ideal candidate would vote your way
every single time...hmm i hope you enjoy your election in fantasy land.
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:15 PM
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10. How about IWR, NCLB, Tax-Cuts for Wealthy, or Omnibus?
Major Legislation brought forth/undewritten by Kerry? Zero!
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:19 PM
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14. Untrue
Kerry did not vote for the tax cuts. He voted against them.
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:16 PM
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12. Thank you for all the info.
Kerry is not my first choice, but I believe he would make a great President.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:21 PM
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18. Well I know that I want a great President
and so I'm voting Kerry.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:20 PM
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15. Thanks Caution!
:-)

Great post.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:20 PM
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16. Can't seem to find the IWR vote on your list of achievements.
I suppose it was just "human error". As was his vote for the war "humanity error".
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:20 PM
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17. Didnt you leave out a few
like the last few?
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:25 PM
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20. feel free to post them
My goal was to point out that Kerry is nothing like Bush.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:29 PM
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22. And his latest votes don't bear that out so well?
Why not post those too?
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:24 PM
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19. Kerry's rating by various interest groups
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=S0421103

By these rating Kerry is more liberal than 95% of senators, is in favor of the arts, pro education, pro woman, pro gay, pro environment, and pro union. Still think Kerry is like Bush?

A sampling:

2002 According to the National Journal - Liberal on Economic Policy's calculations, in 2002, Senator Kerry voted more liberal on economic policy issues than 95 percent of the Senators.

2001 On the votes that the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League considered to be the most important in 2001, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2000 On the votes that the Americans for the Arts considered to be the most important in 2000, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2003 On the votes that the American Bankers Association considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 0 percent of the time.

2002 On the votes that the American Coalition for Ethanol considered to be the most important in 2002, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2000 On the votes that the Consumer Federation of America considered to be the most important in 2000, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2000 On the votes that the Republican Liberty Caucus considered to be the most important in 2000, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 20 percent of the time.

2001-2002 On the votes that the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People considered to be the most important in 2001-2002, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

1993-2003 Based on the votes on legistation that Gay Rights Information considered to be the most important in 1993-2003, Senator Kerry was assigned a grade of A.

2003 On the votes that the Christian Coalition considered to be the most important in 2003 , Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 0 percent of the time.

2001 On the votes that the Conservative Index - The John Birch Society considered to be the most important in 2001, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 5 percent of the time.

2003 On the votes that the National Education Association considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2001-2002 On the votes that the League of Conservation Voters considered to be the most important in 2001-2002, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 92 percent of the time.

2003 On the votes that the Family Research Council considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 0 percent of the time.

2001-2002 On the votes that the American Association of University Women considered to be the most important in 2001-2002, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2001 On the votes that the American Public Health Association considered to be the most important in 2001, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2002 On the votes that the AFL-CIO considered to be the most important in 2002, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 92 percent of the time.

2003 On the votes that the U.S. Public Interest Research Group considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 95 percent of the time.

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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 04:31 PM
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24. A positive post. Get ready to dodge the incoming slime!
*
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Virgil Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:30 PM
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30. How about the big legislation instead of minutae
How about info on the IWR?

How about the tax cut bills 1 and 2?

How about the Trade Authority bill to the president instead of living up to the Constitutional responsibility of Congress?

How about the big Medicare Bill?

I know he did not vote along with Kerry and Lieberman when the Senate passed the $820 omnibus appropriations bill 48 to 45 that took away overtime as we know it for 8 million people.

Then there is the Patriot Act that he could not even say "Let me read it first."

What was the story when the Senate passed the Medicare bill that was a gift to the HMO's and pill companies and insurance industy. It needed a supermajority and where was Kerry?

How about Patriot Act 2?

These are not obscure small measures. These are the largest issues as I can think to mention them. Somebody please try to get Kerry's voting record on what they think are the top ten things that went throught the Senate during Bu$h's raping of the public treasury and trampling of the Constitution.

What we need is the biggest issues and if they needed a super majority like the tax cuts and Medicare, the actual vote and the Kerry and Edwards vote. Lieberman is just muddy water and not relevant, but go ahead and do him too.

This look here at this little stuff is OK, but where is the big stuff. Show me the big stuff. I will eventually get it together. How about putting the above bill bills in this thread and I will work on my own top ten list.

Thank guys. Let's figure this out since the media does not want to talk about voting records on the bill legislation.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:38 PM
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35. Partial birth abortion and Roe v Wade isn't big enough?
:shrug:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 06:37 PM
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34. Yeeeha!

Good work!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-04 04:38 AM
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36. Kick. send them a president.
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