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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:14 PM
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Does the sound of "BUSH 44" scare you? Here's what you can do to stop it.
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 03:28 PM by Cell Whitman
Do you understand Jebb, the Bush clan and the REPUBLICAN party are tied to child torture camps? read on....

I sometimes wonder if a democrat would know a GD political issue if it bit them on the butt. The cowards never mention Moon when they are pummeled with the "Soros owns you" right wing cult mantra. Moon finances(with BILLIONS of bucks swindled from the Japanese) and he guides the republican party into control of our nation, literally outspends Scaife doing it, he BRAGS about it and the democrats don't see a GD issue. They have looked the other way as Moon has worked with the right to fuck our nation BIGTIME.

Not a damn peep out of them. Hell, I let Hillary Clinton's people know Moon was using video of her in propaganda video promoting Moon's youth gigging unit and they said thanks and then NOTHING. I wonder if she fucking cares or has the sense, judgment to care. The dems certainly have sat back and watched what Moon did. They've sat back and watched groups like STRAIGHT also.

I know I am not too good at headline writing or writing in general but I posted this about the child torture camps and the post sunk almost as fast as my other posts. :7
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5350930

Do you all understand that the republicans will put some lipstick on another freak pig in '08? Their cult and a duped nation will follow along again, and be excited because the repigs will pick someone who can say two sentences without drooling all over himself like the current disgrace. They'll see the new right wing theofascist as an 'improvement'.They'll think they are starting over. A new start. ha I laugh but I know they can do it. Look what our nation allows now. What it rationalizes now. Nothing tells me that they won't pull it off again in '08.

So, I know there are many people here who care.... if you want to get ahead of the game, why not push a story about Jebb and the REPUBLICAN PARTY and their blatant ties to child torture camps? It's fucking true and there is more evidence than there is for a child prostitution ring that everyone got so hopped up over for days which went NOWHERE. John Boehner a repig from Ohio is tied to the spawn of these child torture programs.

One of the guests on Mark Levine's radio show(link below) said that the republicans have been a disgrace when it comes to looking into these torture camps which are SPREADING. He said the dems weren't much better but at least, finally, George Miller has a bill proposed regarding the subject.

I also know this subject has been around a bit before but this is THE chance to help these poor victims get their voices heard, show that republicans family values most CERTAINLY includes torture as being OK, that the Bushes are tied to this evil ....and show dems care about REAL family value issues, issues that matter.

DO YOU SEE AN ISSUE? I am sure the trolls won't but how about the majority of you? If you want to help push an issue that "could", if people see it, make a difference PUSH THIS.

If this doesn't make Olberman and TDS it is a bloody disgrace and shows how weak and ineffective the democrats are.

Listen to the show, what do you hear? You hear horror stories created by compassionate conservatism, you see real conservative values in action.... Check out the comments to these links below. These poor victims really deserve for their story to be told.

Here's the link to Gorenfeld's article exposing these horrors in Jebb's "Florida".
http://alternet.org/story/27725/

Here's the radio show, listen to the callers, they DESERVE to be heard and a smart political group would help them and gain points while doing it.

Part 1
http://radioinsidescoop.com/mt-posts-archive/000504.html

November 10, 2005
This Bush Crony Has Blood on His Hands!

THE INSIDE SCOOP on George W. Bush's Former Ambassador to Italy, Melvin Sembler, who ran a teen drug rehab center where thousands of American teens were physically and mentally abused in horrific, degrading ways.
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part 2
http://radioinsidescoop.com/mt-posts-archive/000506.html

November 13, 2005
The Bush Crony Who Tortured American Teens, Part II

Why is a man who should be serving life in prison for torture appointed by President George W. Bush as Ambassador to Italy?

On Thursday, THE INSIDE SCOOP was the first radio show to report on STRAIGHT, Inc., the teen-age rehab center more akin to a torture/concentration camp run by Melvin and Betty Sembler. Melvin Sembler was for many years until a few months ago, George W. Bush's U.S. Ambassador to Italy.
____________

George and Bar greet Mrs. Messiah backstage at the Tokyodome
after Bush spoke to 50,000 to help Moon gig more recruits and
swindle more money from the Japanese.

These are soulless people, these Bushes, soulless.



http://www.cellwhitman.blogspot.com/



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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:22 PM
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1. Don't vote for the son of a Bush. nm
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Neocondriac Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:23 PM
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2. Cell.......
Look into Bohemian Grove and MK Ultra it will answer most of your concerns.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:38 PM
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4. Do you understand people will NOT listen to any of that but
they can understand child torture? That stuff they just see as bullshit and no matter how true, they likely always will. As sad as that may be to admit, it is true.

Here you have Bush naming this scumball, who should be in chains, as our fucking ambassador to Italy. This child torturer represented you and me.

Child torture with victims ready to come forward and speak up just may wake some folks up.

Also, this can expose the mentality of people who push things like the Faith Based Initiative.

This could be and should be HUGE.
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Neocondriac Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:57 PM
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7. Repayment.....
These bastards have the goods on each other. Nixon , if fact, would require that anyone in his White House donate to a fund which was illegal and would bring them all down if anyone found out.Look into the McMartin daycare trial from the 80's. The real truth there was that the McMartin's never molested children , but they were taken off premises for a fee and molested elsewhere.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:05 PM
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9. understand I am not saying that isn't true
but it is broad and has taken place over many years, hard for people to fathom, hell many think Bush isn't a lying fraud.

This child torture story has less tangents and people are ready to come forward. That one lady can talk also. She said she'd go anywhere to expose these people.

I guess I am saying, take the bird in the hand. Use it. Doesn't mean that you can't keep looking in the bush for more birds. :7
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:59 PM
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8. Perhaps after the Abu Ghraib photos come out on the 15th...
People (and the MSM) will be more receptive to the "Child Torture" meme...

But don't hold your breath. Red Staters just don't believe that this stuff has, is and will be happening in 'Murka for a long time. Blue Staters are labelled "tinfoil hatters" and "conspiracy theorists."

I agree that this should be forwarded to La Repubblica in Italy - they LOVE anti-American, anti-Bush stuff.

Good Luck.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:16 PM
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10. I am talking about sending it to Randi Rhodes, Malloy and bloggers etc.
I send it but many of these people only take notice when it is shoved in front of them many times. Understandable, there is a lot going on.

I think if you listen to the Levine show you will see, if given a chance, this will not fall into a "theory" of any kind.

Check out the victim who calls in part two. I would take her as a spokesperson for any issue she knew this well. Smart. Very smart and very well spoken.

I am sure Jebb would try but I'd like to see how they'd try and slime her. Have her on Olberman once and you won't have any "theory" being yapped.

The victims all tell the same story. They deserve to be heard.

You are very right, this story is meant for now.

The dems will maybe wait till Jebb is up 8% in the polls Oct.30 2008. damb.
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:24 PM
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3. Oh please! No more! n/t
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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:45 PM
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5. I have no idea what to say to any of that--
Read the article, unable on this POS computer to listen to any audio.


I'm not surprised. And nowhere in my IMHO huge vocabulary are there enough words for revolted, disgusted, white-hot mad--but not surprised. Not in the least. Creatures as obsessed as this with sex and control find all sorts of ways to legitimize acting out their warped fantasies--AND present themselves as moral and heroes for doing so. And like any serial killers do, they choose victims no one will believe--even if they have to make themselves by turning normal kids exploring the world into "druggie whores"

FL transplant in OH. I can't get away from these abominations; I suppose in a real way no one can.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:56 PM
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6. read the comments in the Levine posts
some of his guests posted in those threads. I just can't help but think this is something people can understand.

It also exposes why it is not unusual for the right to rationalize Abu Gharib. Just anther day at the office for compassionate conservatives.

sorry you couldn't hear the audio, the voices of the victims.

If you go somewhere where you can and don't have much time...part 2 is loaded with fireworks.

Thanks for reading....please pass the links on. Patriotboy posted on this but there should not be ONE liberal blog or site that is not pushing this story - if for no other reason than our fellow citizens, the victims, deserve to be heard.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:25 PM
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11. I hate legacy elections....I won't vote for another Clinton, Kennedy
or anyone else whos' brother, father, wife or child feels they are entitled to the position because of familial name recognition. It is a sad state, that these are the people we have to run. If we stopped this crap, at least we could make fun of the repubs when they do it.
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Cell Whitman Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:28 PM
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12. "We don't do that, do we?" George W. Bush
How about that video of Bush telling Lehrer how campaign donations don't affect policy and thanks Sembler for raking in the dough for him? Audio link in the article.

Sembler should be in chains.

http://alternet.org/story/27725/

But today, Sembler's trail of purchased political friendships has led him through the opulent doors of the $83 million "Mel Sembler Building" in Rome, christened this year with help from a longtime ally in Congress, Rep. C.W. Bill Young (R-FL). Not the palace where Sembler worked as ambassador, but another of the Eternal City's architectural treasures, built in 1927 and now dedicated as an annex to the U.S. Embassy in a $30 million renovation at taxpayer expense. "Narcissus is now Greek and Roman," said the Washington Post of the monument. No one could remember any other diplomat receiving such honors, not even Benjamin Franklin.

"We don't do that, do we?" George W. Bush reportedly told the congressman, according to Congressman C.W. Bill Young 's (R-Florida) speech during the ceremony. "We don't name buildings for ambassadors where they have served."

"Mr. President," the politician replied, "I introduced the bill and you signed it." Bush may have missed the Sembler Building provision, tucked as it was into an appropriations bill. But he owed much to the longtime family friend, whom he thanked on "The Jim Lehrer Report" in 2000 for raising $21.3 million at a single dinner in April, a new record. Asked what favors the money paid for, Bush professed wonderment at the premise: "I know there's this kind of sentiment now -- I heard it during the primaries ... if someone contributes to a person's campaign, there's this great sense of being beholden."

At the Sembler Building, visitors can stroll among the Italian frescoes of cherubs and heavens, and marvel at the spoils of Bush family loyalty, and meditate on the human costs that made Sembler's paradise possible. ...

"While at the facility," wrote Florida Department of Health and Rehabilitative Services Acting Inspector General Lowell Clary on May 19, 1993, "the team received a phone call informing them that no matter what they found, STRAIGHT would receive their license." "If you do anything other than what I tell you on this issue, I will fire you on the spot," an HRS official was told. Clary wasn't positive, but evidence suggested that "pressure may have been generated by Ambassador Sembler and other state senators."

By now, Clinton was in office. Four years earlier, while young "druggies" were still being restrained to chairs for 12 hours, denied medication and sent to the hospital with injuries, the 1989 report would have tarnished President George H.W. Bush's "points of light." Bush had designated STRAIGHT an American treasure. On that fragile premise, not one but two STRAIGHT presidents had been named ambassadors in 1989, the year of the Florida inspection. Sembler got the Australian assignment. The other post sent co-founder Joseph Zappala to Spain armed for diplomacy with a high school education. The two were mocked in People as "too hick to hack it." They'd clowned around during the nomination process, turning in nearly identical answers on Senate disclosure forms. In the "languages spoken" box Sembler had written, humorously, "English (fluent)."


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