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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 12:55 PM
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DU this MSNBC poll! (are war critics "irresponsible" ?)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7545983/

Are war critics "irresponsible" for saying the Bush Administration manipulated intelligence? * 4389 responses

Yes 18%

No 82%
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SF Bay Area Dem Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 12:57 PM
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1. DONE!
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 12:57 PM
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2. That 18% who vote yes is very hard-core
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 12:59 PM
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3. Still at 82 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 12:59 PM
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4. It's quite obvious.......
that Diebold doesn't count MSNBC's votes.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:00 PM
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5. Wickerman Poll: Is MSRNC Irresponsible to post war critic polls?
YES or YES?

Is MSRNC simply a tool of the Administration when they help propagate the BushCo. myth that anything less than complete abdication of your constitutional right to free speech is in support of terra?

Yes or Yes
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:01 PM
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6. done, but as a war critic and American

I find the question, in and of itself, offensive. :grr:



Are war critics "irresponsible" for saying the Bush Administration manipulated intelligence? * 4629 responses
Yes
18% No
82%
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:12 PM
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14. Yeah, that IRRESPONSIBLE word is just damn SNARKY n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:50 PM
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27. It's the exact same word plucked from President Doofy Mc Crazymouth.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:10 PM
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30. Had they quoted the Monkey, and put the word in quotes, I could live with
the question. But they do that damn "we are the ORACLE" thing with their foolish questions, and they shouldn't. Put the thing in context, in the foolish little box, doggone it!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:23 PM
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32. I hear 'ya. It's more of the media repeating WH spin. The one
nice thing is they keep putting out these polls even though for weeks now the results are never in support of Shrubby.
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Lowell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:01 PM
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7. Done
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 01:01 PM by Lowell
Still 82% no. Who the hell are these 18%? It must be a bunch of brain-dead bushzombies.
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:01 PM
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8. This poll/survey is totally skewed. Shows you what MSNBC really thinks
This question is so badly worded that I would have fired the survey writer on the spot.

First of all, it's a double negative, thinly disguised. Most people would automatically reach for the Yes button unless they thought a moment about it. Since the Yes button is the FIRST button, this also slightly skews the probabilities toward answering Yes.

Second, MSNBC isn't interested in the real truth. If they were they would be actually doing some investigative reporting. Instead they're asking OPINIONS from ordinary citizens, who know next to nothing. If MSNBC wanted a real answer, they would have asked:

Did the Bush Administration manipulate intelligence? Yes/No

But they didn't. They therefore want your opinion on WHAT IS POPULAR! Not the TRUTH but what will bring them readers.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:02 PM
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9. You hippies!
Don't you know how irresponsible it is to ask why thousands have died and billions have been squandered?

In which bowel of Hell does a question like this even get formulated?
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:04 PM
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10. no but msnbc is.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:06 PM
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11. We are not irresponsible for telling the truth
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Native Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:07 PM
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12. Done n/t
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:12 PM
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13. done............
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:14 PM
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15. just when i think i can't get...
..any more pissed at corpwhores!! Such a crock..
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emdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:19 PM
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16. Done. Still at 82% I emailed them...
and told them that I think that question is what is irresponsible. When we are at war based on lies, that their question is aimed at those who dare to ask a question is ridiculous. What kind of news media do we have?
emdee
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:35 PM
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17. yeah...
I would say that on the surface the whole premise (and question) is ridiculous. I totally get your point.

But I believe the question as written is just turning around precisely what Chimpy said in his disgusting Veterans Day speech, that critics of the war are "irresponsible"... MSNBC is throwing it back to the public, as in: the President says THIS is so, what do YOU think?

So, I think it's an opportunity to say "Fuck You, Chimp!" and to show the MSM (and WH who tracks this I'm sure) that we, the public, are NOT buying the bullshit!
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emdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:40 PM
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20. Good point. Thanks -
makes me feel better about MSNBC's motives!
emdee
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:40 PM
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18. Done...81% NO...5586 votes total
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:40 PM
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19. Yes 81% ............. No 19%
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 01:41 PM by jaxx
edit> Oooops.........turn those around please!!
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 01:53 PM
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21. Done, but 19/81 now.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:01 PM
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22. Done - 80% no
Edited on Mon Nov-14-05 02:03 PM by Eugene
20% Yes
80% No

6183 responses

edit: recommended :kick:
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:39 PM
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23. That question is insulting. And it's getting freeped
20% yes
80% no
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:44 PM
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24. the question uses B*sh's language from his Friday speech
"irresponsible" in quotes.. I don't think the phrasing is insulting, they are turning B*sh's new talking point around and throwing back out for comment

see my post #17

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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:02 PM
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29. You're right, I guess I was insulted by Bush's questioning of anyone who
criticizes him
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:49 PM
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25. Done K & 5th R.
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dae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:49 PM
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26. 7598 voting 80% No; 20% Idiots. n/t
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 02:51 PM
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28. yes 20% no 80% 7668 responses (nt)
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msturgis524 Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:10 PM
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31. Done 80/20
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:40 PM
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33. Up to 20%. Looks like Freeperville is lining up to prove their idiocy.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 03:47 PM
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34. This ? is "irresponsible" imo Done
Are war critics "irresponsible" for saying the Bush Administration manipulated intelligence? * 9752 responses

No 80%
Yes 20%
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:01 PM
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35. a war that was supposed to end 2 1/2 years ago
the troop level was to be in the 10's of thousands if not 0 by now, and oh yeah how can we forget about the roses and greeted as liberators.

No, why should we critisize? How shameful. My only conclusion is that Bush Inc had perfectly good intelligence that showed Iraq was a toothless, paper tiger with no WMD and they would be EASY to roll over with tanks and that they knew full well that domin
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 04:18 PM
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36. Done - now 80% No, 20% yes
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klebean Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 05:10 PM
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37. 21/79 nt
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 05:21 PM
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38. Done. Freepers are busy. 21-79
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 05:26 PM
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39. A busy freeper is a good thing!
If they are occupied with "freeping" internet polls, then they don't have time for their other favorite pursuits, namely, deflowering adolescents and small rodents.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 05:36 PM
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40. the no's still have it
* 12540 responses


Yes 21%
No 79%
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:01 PM
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41. Y 21 N 79 @ 13913
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:05 PM
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42. Done and update
Are war critics "irresponsible" for saying the Bush Administration manipulated intelligence? * 13940 responses


Yes
21%

No
79%
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 07:53 PM
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43. 78 / 22 eom
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 09:12 PM
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44. Done
Are war critics "irresponsible" for saying the Bush Administration manipulated intelligence? * 15331 responses


Yes
21% No
79%
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 09:22 PM
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45. done and kick and recommended -- now 21%/79%
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Hollow Shells Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:34 PM
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46. Sweet n/t
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dennisnyc Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 10:47 PM
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47. done n/t
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:11 PM
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48. No 79% Yes 21% 16,226 responses nt
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haydukelives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:46 PM
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49. Done
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-14-05 11:56 PM
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50. DONE
79 NO
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:51 AM
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51. Done !!!
:kick:
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:26 AM
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52. 79/21
oops
The freepers are peeing in the pool again.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 01:30 AM
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53. Just curious....does MSNBC ever report on...
these polls and if so, could someone give us an update on this one.

Thanks..
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 05:17 AM
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54. kick
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