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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 07:13 PM
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Barbra Streisand Makes A New Statement
And It's a doozy! If Not Now...When?www.barbrastreisand.com/statements.html#ifnotnowwhen
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 07:20 PM
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1. I watched the SNL 'Commercials' special last saturday ...
And one had John McCain ridiculing 'Babs' for making political statements, where he also proceeded to sing her songs horribly, and likening HIS attempt to sing her songs to HER attempts to state her political views ...

I never despised McCain more than that spot ... what an arse: He does not in ANY WAY value the opinions of american citizens if he cannot tolerate the expression of views from artists who also happen to be citizens ....

EVERYONE has a right to speak their mind: even actors, singers and perhaps even dancers ....

Ever two step, John ? ... You asshole ....
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dalaigh lllama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 08:01 PM
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3. At least she's had a successful career
Unlike *, who failed in everything before he decided politics was his metier. Heck, I'd say she has more qualifications to be prez than * -- she's not a "looser." Go, Babs!
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 09:52 PM
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6. I thought about that, too.
I, personally, don't like the type of music Streisand sings; therefore, I don't have to buy it or listen to it.

However, when McCain votes on legislation, his vote can and does effect both me AND Barbra Streisand.

Therefore, his comparing her complaining about him versus his singing her music doesn't wash. I don't have to listen to him sing, either (and didn't. It disgusted me and I turned the station), but I DO have to live with his assinine votes.

AND I voted against Bush in his favor during the 2000 primary! (I was still going to vote for Gore, but I just couldn't STAND by and let Bush win without putting in my two cents against him).
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 11:08 PM
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7. Wait a moment. I didn't see the "commercial" but if it was on SNL,
it was comedy. How can you hold a comedy routine that someone else wrote for him against him? He did it because it was supposed to be funny, right? The thought of McCain singing Streisand songs is funny.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 11:54 PM
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11. It was 'supposed' to be funny .....
it was as funny as a lynching .....

Feel free to defend the ugly spectacle, if you must ....
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:24 AM
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13. I didn't see the "ugly spectacle" but I think you may be overreacting
just a tetch. And the rightwingers say we have no senses of humor!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 11:44 PM
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9. That's right and I wrote to
Edited on Mon Nov-07-05 11:44 PM by zidzi
her personally by snail mail about that and said how disgusted I was..she wrote me back and said they can't deny the message so they have to try and smear the messenger. Very Classy Lady.

Asshole mccain forgets that he works for us..at least the citizens of Arizona..and Singers have as much right to speak out as policemen, teachers, firefighters, nurses, co-op workers, bank presidents, farmers, laborers, carpenters, jazz pianists, ad infinitum.

Too bad mccain is so fulla Shite.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 07:21 PM
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2. doozy is right.
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dback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 09:34 PM
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4. Good for her
Of course, the GOP will dismiss her a New York/Hollywood liberal entertainer AND a Jew. This of course translates into "her views and opinions mean nothing."

Has there been a Republican actor/entertainer half as articulate and impassioned? (Schwarzenegger? Fred Thompson? Sonny Bono? Reagan? Please.)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 12:11 AM
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12. bo derek?
:silly:
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 09:48 PM
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5. It's a pointless statement
She says "impeachment will be difficult." Try impossible Babs. There is absolutely ZERO chance of the Republicans voting to impeach Bush. It's not going to happen.

The Democrats already had their opportunity to remove Bush from office. It was the 2004 election. But instead of nominating a candidate with real potential to reach beyond the Democratic base -- someone like John Edwards -- the Democrats nominated John Kerry. I wonder how many more presidential elections the Democrats have to lose before primary voters realize that nominating a liberal candidate from the Northeast is a dumb idea.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 11:53 PM
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10. No, it isn't pointless!
She's not the only one mentioning Impeachment..Elizabeth De La Vega makes a very good case for Impeachment in The Nation magazine..

"The White House Criminal Conspiracy"

Snip~

"Americans may have been unaware of this deceit then, but they have since learned the truth. According to a Washington Post/ABC News poll conducted in June, 52 percent of Americans now believe the President deliberately distorted intelligence to make a case for war. In an Ipsos Public Affairs poll, commissioned by AfterDowningStreet.org and completed October 9, 50 percent said that if Bush lied about his reasons for going to war Congress should consider impeaching him. The President's deceit is not only an abuse of power; it is a federal crime. Specifically, it is a violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 371, which prohibits conspiracies to defraud the United States."



Continued..
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051114/delavega/5
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:37 AM
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15. Have you seen these poll figures?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2229478

Folks are waking up. We need to wake up too and realize that we are not the only ones that care.

:hi:

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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 02:08 PM
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16. You need votes to impeach a president
It doesn't matter what the polls say. No Republican is going to vote to impeach Bush. It's not going to happen. Now you can choose to do something productive, or you can choose to waste your time fantasizing about an impeachment scenario that WILL NEVER HAPPEN. It's your call.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 02:12 PM
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17. You are the one living in a fantasy land.
There are no other realistic avenues to pursue except voting them out of office and then impeachment.

Anything else is just wishful thinking and thinking that can get you in more trouble than you probably could care to deal with.

And, FYI, I am being productive, I am doing so much more than pontificating on a message board, you might want to try that some time. :hi:

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 11:39 PM
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8. Good for Barbra..I remember
her calling into c-span before the 2000 selection and asking people to vote for Gore!
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:32 AM
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14. Barbra's Republican Hypocrites List
Posted on August 29, 2005

Quotes from Republicans when Clinton committed troops to Bosnia:

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."
-Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)

"You can support the troops but not the president."
-Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"Well, I just think it's a bad idea. What's going to happen is they're going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years."
-Joe Scarborough (R-FL)

"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"
-Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

" President...is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."
-Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)

"American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."
-Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy." -Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush

"I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning...I didn't think we had done enough in the diplomatic area."
-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"
-Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

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