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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:18 PM
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Fox: Bush "presiding over unsuccessful, even incompetent, administration"
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,174627,00.html

With the White House shrouded in scandal, the biggest obstacle to George W. Bush’s political comeback is that he’s no Bill Clinton.

The heaviest millstone around the president’s political neck isn’t the case against Scooter Libby or the continuing investigation into Karl Rove. Rather, it’s the growing public perception that, unlike President Clinton in the 1990s, Bush is presiding over an unsuccessful, even incompetent, administration.

Scandal’s ability to upset the political apple cart is such that some observers argue scandals are now the primary means through which Americans engage in political conflict. What will be the current scandal’s impact on the Bush presidency?

An especially bad omen is the effects of a serious political scandal -- which public opinion considers this one to be -- dissipate very slowly. When governments or government officials are perceived to have violated the public trust, their transgressions aren’t quickly forgotten.

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cobaindrain Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:21 PM
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1. fox said this?
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:22 PM
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2. They addressed "the growing public perception"...
...which is not exactly as if they made the statement on their own, but to ACKNOWLEDGE anything other that 100% unconditional Bush love is a major leap for Murdoch's boys 'n' girls...
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 06:17 PM
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17. What, they ABANDONED the talking points
This is huge,
latest David Brooks/Sean Hannity spin
Bush is a nice man
to say that Bushco lied their way into the Iraq War is serious and
you better have evidence to back it up
Weapons, Smeapons, everybody including Clinton said Saddam had WMD's
All those turncoat Dems voted for the Iraq war, they're just flip flopping.

What this totally ignores is the fact that Bush authorized the war,
it is his responsibility.
Bushco produced the argument for war, not the Congress, if it is deeply flawed; then it is his administration that must take responsibiity for it.
If the Administration was seriously investigating the need for war, they would not have smeared Joseph Wilson, who with the best of intentions was trying to say the Niger story was untrue and save
them from a bloody war.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:35 PM
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7. It sounds like his biggest obstacle will be if Faux turns on him
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:22 PM
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3. They forgot "and mindbogglingly corrupt"
so routinely corrupt and anti-democratic and un-Constitutional that the terms "corruption" and "governmental illegitimacy" are in danger of have lost all meaning in English.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:24 PM
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4. Faux news sees the irony
"Back in 2000, George W. Bush’s presidential campaign drew an explicit contrast between its candidate’s high ethical standards and Bill Clinton’s scandalous personal behavior. Five years later, there is tremendous irony in the fact that President Bush, if his second term agenda is to survive this scandal, needs to give America a reason to rate his own presidency along Clintonesque lines."
:think:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:28 PM
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5. Really must have smarted for Fox to have to admit that!
:applause: :woohoo:
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:43 PM
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12. WOW! You *know* he's in deep shit
when his #1 ass-kisser admits something like that! :bounce:
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:31 PM
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6. Even Faux news can't ignore..
.. the obvious!

lol

Sue
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:35 PM
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8. That was on a FOX fraudcast??? wow. And that picture of the imbecile
is making my eyes bleed.
What a moran. Is that his idea of 'dignity'?
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:37 PM
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9. if the pigmedia did their job, maybe bush woulda been less extravagant
in a way, the media constant harassment of clinton allowed clinton to adapt his gov's policies with public perceptions in view...bush never had this advantage, and the loser is the country. shame on foxnews and all the rest of them....in their vile playing favorites with the public interest, they've created a mess so bad the facts are still hidden...some of those bastards deserve heavy prison time (murdock, limbah-humbug, the clearchannel operators and too many others to mention)
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:38 PM
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10. I thought this referred to Vicente Fox of Mexico
I couldn't imagine Faux news was saying this about Georgie.

Wonders will never cease.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:49 PM
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13. Same here!
I was almost positive I was going to open it and see "Vincente Fox said...."

LOL!!! :rofl:
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:38 PM
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11. I can't believe that came from Fox, Something I would have to see to
believe.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 05:55 PM
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14. It's an op-ed piece from the Cato Institute
The writer Patrick Basham is senior fellow in the Center for Representative Government at the Cato Institute.
http://www.cato.org/about/about.html

Still it is progress.
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ThingsGottaChange Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 06:09 PM
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15. Stan Laurel?????
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 06:15 PM
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16. Not that HE is incompetent, of course.
He's just a victim of the "millstone around his neck." :eyes:

Oh, well, it's a start! :hi:
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 06:28 PM
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18. I can't believe they even said this?
Surely there must be some companion piece about how the perception of failure is all wrong and Bush is the best president ever.
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