wtf? this guy says M. Moore owns stock in Halliburton???

[NVMojo]

http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=95

[Skink]

1. Maybe he's mounting a hostile takeover.

[NVMojo]

2. hmmm, I've actually heard of people buying stock in companies

that they hate cuz they get the inside info and can attend stockholders meetings ....

[havocmom]

5. BINGO

And if you get a request for contributions for a GOP candidate, consider giving $5. It will actually cost them more in bookkeeping and reporting costs AND will get you on all sorts of interesting mailing lists. You can fight them better if they think you are on their team and the give you info ;)

[MnFats]

16. yeah. somehow i don't see moore buying haliburton to cash in..

....on the gravy train. but that will be the spin, I'll bet.

[calimary]

31. That's quite true.

Sometimes it's intriguing to get on the inside. If I did it, I might consider giving ONE dollar. And if you do, NEVER put postage on it. ALWAYS make them pay their own (especially those that note how you can help them save money and stretch their dollars further if you pay for the postage yourself).

Remember kkkarl did that once when he was younger, posed as one of the good guys to get in with some local Democratic race. That, then, positioned him to be able to steal some of their stationery and used their letterhead to put out a flyer to some college event, advertizing lots of free beer, food, and women. It made the candidate look bad, brought lots of undesirable publicity, and undesirables to the event - who then got mad because there was nothing there as promised in the flyer, so they became even more rabid opponents, etc.

I know some anti-choicers who subscribe to Planned Parenthood and NARAL stuff just so they can pack the postage-paid donation envelopes with a lot of their junk mail, to cost those campaigns more expenses. So, turnabout is fair play, 'eh? Sauce for the goose...

[havocmom]

36. When they send postage paid envelopes, I sometime send

bumper stickers back to them :evilgrin:
My fav was the "Somebody ELSE for President" sent to bush/cheney

[Vanje]

43. I load those envelpopes with non-recyclable, garbage , or rocks

Coupla years ago, I had a big box of RNC literature sent to me Fed-Ex , when I pretended to be a highschool debate team coach, desiring to share "patriotic talking points' for pre-election debate exercises.

It cost thre RNC 80 some bucks to overnight that box to me.
I sent a lot of Oregon Basalt back to them in those hundred or so, post-paid envelopes.

[samsingh]

34. why $5 and not .01 or $1?

[havocmom]

37. I believe $5 is the low amount for what they have to report to FEC

and that would cost them more than a smaller contribution that doesn't get reported.

[samsingh]

41. that makes sense. thanks.

[No Exit]

14. Thank you!

I was gonna point that out, but you guys are way ahead of me.

I know someone who was mad at a company, and bought shares for the express purpose of going to stockholders' meetings and for considering a shareholder derivative action.

Thank you for pointing this out. Things are not always what they appear to be--especially when it's rightwingnuts whispering it in our ear.

[Totally Committed]

30. Didn't he advocate this in one of his books?

If I remember correctly, he says you have to own stock in a company to go into a stockholders meeting. And, the more stock you own, the bigger stink you can make about their policies. I think it was Mike who wrote about this. I believe he is definitely trying to get into the meetings this way, and either have a say, or record what goes on in these shareholder meetings.

[Yupster]

45. Owning stock will get you the right to make a stink

at the shareholders meeting.

The number does not matter.

A company may have 40 million shares outstanding. Whether you own one share or 2,000 shares makes no difference. it is a bip either way.

If you own 3 million shares, then it makes a difference.

[Jackpine Radical]

4. Maybe the stock gets him into shareholder meetings.

Maybe he saw a chance for a profit.

Who knows?

Who cares?

[Lubernaut]

8. Maybe the whole story is BS...

[Wilms]

18. Or confusion...

Diebold names Moore vice president, corporate controller

• 02 November 2005

NORTH CANTON, Ohio Diebold Inc. has named Michael R. Moore vice president and corporate controller. According to a news release, Moore had previously filled this role on an interim basis.

Moore has held various management-level finance positions within the company, including director of corporate planning and analysis, financial controller for Diebold International and chief financial officer of Diebold's operation in Brazil.

Moore will be responsible for the company's global accounting functions, financial reporting and internal financial control infrastructure.

"Mike's skills, thorough knowledge of our global internal processes and strong leadership abilities will help strengthen our most critical financial operations," said Kevin J. Krakora, Diebold's vice president and chief financial officer.

http://atmmarketplace.com/news_story.htm?i=24392

[salin]

32. given the source of the story, WorldNetDaily, I would guess you are right.

[calimary]

33. Yeah, but if someone like Michael Moore might get a profit from this,

imagine what someone like Michael Moore could turn around and DO with those profits?

:evilgrin:

Besides, the more stock you own in a company, the more clout you DO have, plus, what's to stop you from maybe trying some sort of takeover if it ever gets to that point? I have a fantasy about buying stock in rupert murdoch's newscorp or something, and just keep on buying it and keep on buying it until I have so much that I become able to maneuver into being a majority stockholder. Then, guess what I get to do to rupert, and to the programming at Pox "news"? Just a fantasy, I know. But a fun one nonetheless!

:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

[snowbear]

12. LOL.... too funny Skink!

http://eliteleague.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/lol!.gif

[shenmue]

3. Horsefeathers

That's got to be bunk.

:grr:

:dunce:

:wtf:

[mcscajun]

7. I'd buy it, along the lines mentioned upthread.

Know your enemy...buy ONE share of stock and rabble-rouse at the stockholders meetings. :)

It just may be that's the way Michael Moore owns Halliburton, if indeed it it true at all.

[tabasco]

6. So does Dick Cheney. The difference is Cheney lied about it.

Cheney told the American people on Meet The Press, during the first Bu$h campaign, that he had "severed all financial ties with the company." Cheney has made over $8 million on Halliburton stock since the Iraq war began.

I don't give a shit what private people invest in. I'm a little more concerned about lying, war-profiteering public officials. But freepers seem to be more concerned about big boogeyman M. Moore. Idiots.

edit typo

[Yupster]

46. I may be wrong, but

I think Cheney owns stock options at HAL which is much different from stocks.

The biggest difference is that a stock option cannot be sold or bought.

[5X]

9. Give me a break, I would certainly need more than this guys..

word for it.

[MazeRat7]

10. Good for him.. I hope Halliburton is making him money.

The ultimate irony... using funds from those we despise to help us fight those we dispise....

MZr7

[Zynx]

27. You bring up an interesting point. His owning stock in Halliburton doesn't

make them money. In fact, they would be paying him dividends. Effectively, Halliburton would be "donating" money to Michael Moore. Now THAT's funny.

[high density]

11. Whoopty ding, everybody with life insurance probably does

in an indirect way.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

13. Has anyone emailed Michael Moore's website about this?

I'm going to in order that he may set the record straight. I didn't see anything on Moore's website addressing this.

[sepia_steel]

20. I emailed him last night.

No reply thus far.

[Yupster]

47. Confused?

I own life insurance. How does that get me HAL stock?

[DemoTex]

15. I own Exxon-Mobile stock.

Am I happy about it? HELL NO! But my US Airways pilots pension plan was cancelled on 3/31/2003. I have to play with the devil from time to time.

[AntiCoup2K4]

17. Supposedly he also owns stock in pharmaceutical companies

Of course, Michael Moore fans know that he's been working on a film called "Sicko" about the health care industries. It could be argued that owning stock in pharma companies would be a great way of accessing information about the companies readily available to shareholders, but not to the general public. If that were true, I would call it smart journalism, which is something the FAUX fan Freepers know nothing about.

On the other hand, only NewsHax, World Nutcase Daily and Freep Blogs seem to be carrying the story, so that indicates it's probably bullshit. If there were something to this, the whores would smell the blood in the water and be all over Moore like Junior on a line of Colombia's finest.

[bbinacan]

19. I think you're right.

I believe that a shareholder of a public company has the right to request access to the books of the company. The company will make it difficult but I think it can be done. Very smart on Moore's part.

[Yupster]

21. Lots of questionable info on this thread

I'm a stock broker and I own many stocks.

No one has ever sent me inside information on a company because I owned the stock.

Also, corporations must file their financials each year and they are public information in considerable detail. You can look inside the books of a company whether you are a stockholder or not.

Being a stockholder does entitle you to a seat at the stockholders' meetings. And it is not unheard of for a protestor to buy one share of stock with the intent purpose of speaking at the stockholders' meeting.

If Moore owns 2,000 shares, that sounds to me like an ivestment rather than a protest.

I don't care what he owns, and I sure don't have anything against people owning stock, but this fishing around for explanations is pretty pathetic sounding.

My own guess is that he probably has a guy who handles his investments for him, and he probably doesn't have a clue what he does or doesn't own. He probably calls his guy when he needs money and that's about the extent of his involvement in his own financial affairs. Just my own guess of course.

[lynne]

22. This seems to be coming from a new book -

- "Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy," by Peter Schweizer, based on what I could find online.

[ComerPerro]

28. I saw that book. Pathetic

Those freaks need to clean out their own house. They apparently can't even see conservative hypocrisy.

To them, a liberal hypocrite is someone who doesn't pay 100% of their income in taxes.

[Craig3410]

39. Probably.

They've got that book at my university's bookstore.

It's about 280 pages; it could have been 2800 if they'd focused on conservative hypocrisy.

It's typical RW dreck.

[displacedtexan]

23. Two word explanation: Mutual Funds

Anyone with even a tiny amount of $ invested in mutual funds has "stock" in despicable companies like Halliburton.

[AngryAmish]

24. good answer

However I don't like Mike Moore. Everyone I know (and respect) that has had dealings with him call him an asshole. So will I in the transitive sense.

[Zynx]

25. That is true, particularly with index funds.

If he owns an S&P 500 index fund, he "owns" stock in Halliburton, Pfizer, Walmart, Exxon Mobile, and all kinds of other scum like that.

[Yupster]

44. Suposedly the info comes from

tax returns, so if Moore reported dividends from Haliburton on his tax returns, it could not be from mutual funds as mutual fund dividends are reported by fund, not by underlying stock within the fund.

Also, if you own Haliburton within a mutual fund you would own a slightly different amount every day. For instance you could own 2.67543 shares on Monday and 2.67539 shares on Tuesday if that could even be figured for you.

You would not own 2,000 shares of Haliburton in a mutual fund, ever.

Does he own 2,000 shares of HAL like the book charges?

I don't know or care, but if he does, it is not because of a mutual fund.

[ComerPerro]

26. Its a solid investment

Especially for those who had stock before the war...

[salin]

29. World Net Daily... now that's a reliable source

:sarcasm:

Out to check where links embedded in blogs come from before getting too excited.

[samsingh]

35. in fact we should all start buying stock in media companies

so that we can get them to become objective again.

[havocmom]

38. Not a bad idea

now, if I just had a mess o' $$

[samsingh]

40. what would happen if each of us left leaning folks

bought 100 to 1000 shares in companies like times warner?

[havocmom]

48. Things would change. Share holder use paper ballots don't they?

I really think we are the majority. If we weren't, the right wouldn't have to own the media and program the vote counting machines.

[samsingh]

50. i think shareholder's use paper ballots

i'm going to look at some of the media stock.

[ray of light]

42. makes no sense.

[Zen Democrat]

49. If you own stock, you can attend the stockholders meetings.

I would imagine that if Michael Moore owns Halliburton stock, it is just for this reason. It gets him in the door before they close it to the outside world.