CBS Poll: CIA Leak Vs the other big presidental scandals of recent

[LynneSin]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/02/opinion/polls/main1005252.shtml

HOW IMPORTANT TO THE NATION IS THE CIA LEAK MATTER?

IN order of how important tot he nation these matters rate:
Watergate: 53%
CIA Leak: 51%
Iran-Contra: 48%
Clinton-Lewinsky: 41%
Whitewater: 20%

In a nutshell: It beats anything Clinton has ever done by 10% but Watergate is still the scandal to beat


CIA Leak
Great importance
51%
Some importance
35%
Little/no importance
12%

Clinton-Lewinsky (1/98)
Great importance
41%
Some importance
21%
Little/no importance
37%

Whitewater (3/94)
Great importance
20%
Some importance
29%
Little/no importance
45%

Iran-Contra (2/87)
Great importance
48%
Some importance
33%
Little/no importance
19%

Watergate (5/73; Gallup Poll)
Great importance
53%
Some importance
25%
Little/no importance
22%

[LonelyLRLiberal]

1. Obviously, importance will go up with more indictments / revelations.

It's early in the story for the general public.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

2. I agree that it is a big one

but Lewinsky, as bogus as it was, ended up in an IMPEACHMENT trial. That's a biggie.

But of course we are a long way from being done with this one.

[LynneSin]

4. It was an impeachment that no one cared about

The majority of the public felt it was a waste of time & money with the impeachment of Clinton over a damn blowjob.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

5. yeah, but still an impeachment

and it never should have happened. A black eye on this country.

[VolcanoJen]

7. And to prove that, Clinton's approval ratings during impeachment...

... were impressive.

CBSNews Poll - BUSH VS. OTHER PRESIDENTS: APPROVAL RATINGS DURING SCANDALS

Bush
Now
Approve 35%
Disapprove 57%


Clinton
1/1998
Approve 58%
Disapprove 29%

2/1998
Approve 72%
Disapprove 22%

7/1998
Approve 64%
Disapprove 29%

Height of Impeachment:

10/1998
Approve 65%
Disapprove 30%

12/1998
Approve 66%
Disapprove 30%

[NNadir]

3. Except that Watergate is all played out.

Having lived through Watergate, I'd say we're still in the region that existed before John Dean's testimony before Senator Earvin's committee.

We have a better sense at DU than the rest of the nation about the scale of this thing. One thing that is certain that, as was the case with Nixon, the affair is moving beyond the government's ability to control it. As was the case with Nixon, it will help when all the policies come home to roost. This will certainly involve more scrutiny.

[blm]

6. Watergate was nothing next to crimes committed in IranContra and BCCI.

.

[Beer Snob-50]

8. i would say that the cia leak is more troublesome than the rest

someone who would comprimise national security for political gain is more of a danger than anything nixon did.

[Peace Patriot]

9. What I'm impressed with is that it's ALREADY at 51%, after one...

indictment, a press conference and a week of mixed quality news and Rovian "talking points," after the corporate news monopolies had pretty much blackholed for two years.

It reminds me of the American people's opinion of the Iraq war BEFORE the invasion--before all the lies were exposed, before the full horror and cost of it were known. (58% opposed, Feb. '03).

People here tend to underestimate the American people (calling them "sheeple"). I think they're fairly well informed (however they achieve it), and quite savvy. They didn't trust Bush way back then--before the full story was known. They now positively detest him and his junta, and most are probably hoping with all their hearts that Fitzgerald and the Democrats can bring them down.

One thing they are not savvy about is HOW they have been disempowered by the corporate news monopolies (by their giving a Big Trumpet to a rightwing minority, way out of proportion to their real numbers), and DISENFRANCHISED (quite directly, by far rightwing Bushite corporations controlling the vote tabulation with "TRADE SECRET," PROPRIETARY programming code in the new electronic voting systems).

The latter is the biggest secret of all--one being kept not just by the news monopolies (who DOCTORED their own exit polls, late on election day, to FIT the results of Diebold's and ES&S's secret formulae--polls that Kerry had won), not just by the Bushites (because they like having their buds "tabulate" votes), but also by the Democratic Party leadership (probably mostly due to venal corruption at the state/local level in the $4 billion electronic voting boondoggle).

Once the American people figure all this out--and I think that's moving along pretty well--there is going to hell to pay in the corporate boards rooms of our government.

The Libby indictment is not only of "great importance," as to our national security and the utter criminality and treason of the Bush junta, it is going to cause people to think back to Nov. 2, 2004 and start asking just how pervasive the crimes, the treason, the lies and corporate news monopoly illusions are.