Some dumb shit 15 year old killed a teacher here...

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

She was a mother and a good woman. She was beaten to death in a family learning center.

Fuck, I hate listening to the local news. It only makes the sadness that America has become more personal.

Peace.

[NVMojo]

1. how horrible!!!!

[GrpCaptMandrake]

2. So sorry to hear it

What a sad, pitiful, hateful place we are becoming.

[FreedomAngel82]

20. So sad

:( It was reported that on the news somewhere (my mom didn't specify and say where) a guy was doing a baptizm and he had a microphone on and it fell into the water and killed him but the woman was okay just hurt. :( There's just so much pain now in the world and especially in the country. :(

[JJackFlash]

3. 16 year-old beat a woman to death in my state

in what was to be her "dream home."
Humans are violent apes and sometimes angels.

[catmother]

7. was that woman pamela vitale? n/t

[musette_sf]

4. horrible news

and could it be that seeing years of criminals in the Repuke ranks, unquestioned for their evil deeds, sends a certain, um, message to our youth?

[hlthe2b]

5. I've been avoiding local news lately, but needed the weather...

Some Denver grandma (actually Aurora, CO) apparently stabbed her infant/toddler grandchild to death... At least that's how it appears...:shrug:

NEED GOOD NEWS somewhere...... Time to hug my pup.

[intheflow]

11. I'm in Denver, that's what I heard, too.

It's horrifying that such things happen, and especially to children. I think this sort of thing has always happened, but since communities were more isolated and there were so many fewer people, it seems it happened less. Doesn't make it any less shocking or depresing.

...Time to hug a fellow Denverite and other DUers who care. :grouphug:

[FreedomAngel82]

21. Oh my gosh

:( That's so horrible. Why would a grandma hurt her little grandchild like that? :cry:

[donco6]

22. Yes, I heard that.

Ugh. Sounds like Grandma had some serious mental problems.

[alphafemale]

6. Tragedy all the way around.

:cry:

[Dark]

8. Here, only a few weeks back, a father beat his daughter to death with a

putter.

[catmother]

9. my grandmother was a good catholic

and the mother of 8 children. when my son was born in 1961 grandma said to me "child don't have any more children -- the world is not a nice place anymore". now i thought things were pretty great in the 60s. what would my grandma think now?

[walldude]

10. Well I wasn't suicidal before I came into this thread

but damn...

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

13. Oh, god, sorry... Turn it over to TBS, they're playing "Pay it Forward."

Just turn it off before the end.

:hi:

[expatriot]

12. this story is not uniquely american nor uniquely modern.

my two cents:

Where ever there is a society, there are individuals who do not find community in that society for whatever reason, be it neurological defects, sociological or psychological deprivation, etc. Many times, these outcasts, when forced to interact with this society that has become alien and foreign to them, will react violently to it as if at "war" with it.

This phenomenon, although not unique to the modern, is compounded by increasingly complex and stratified societal systems and also by society's neglect of it own "social fabric."

[LeftyMom]

14. My high school photo teacher was beat to death by a disturbed neighbor

A girl he'd known and loved since she was a little girl. The local police said it was possibly the most horrible crime scene they'd ever encountered.

I fear for what remains of our civilization, sometimes.

[kurth]

19. UT student stabbed professor 200 times to remove "computer chip in brain"

Danielle Martin and Jackson Ngai shared a close friendship, a passionate love for music, and mental illness. They cared for each other as best they could. And then he killed her.

On the night of April 29, about a quarter after nine, UT graduate student Jackson Ngai made a 911 call from the home of his music professor, Danielle Martin. When police arrived, they found Ngai in the middle of a psychotic episode, and Martin dead... Martin was born and grew up in Long Island, N.Y., and studied at Oberlin and the Peabody Institute, where she worked with renowned pianist and conductor Leon Fleisher.

Full story at http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2004-11-12/pols_feature.html

Update: On Oct. 20, jurors found former UT grad student Jackson Ngai not guilty by reason of insanity...

http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2005-10-28/pols_feature5.html

[wtmusic]

15. The media drools over stories like this

Statistically, I don't know if there is more of this going on or not than 20 years ago. I know one thing for sure: it gets more media attention.

Can't watch local news anymore. It has little to do with anything that affects people's lives, and a lot to do with what serves their morbid curiosity.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

16. Small town here. This is news for the area.

OTOH, we haven't invaded another state.

[FreedomAngel82]

23. I've turned off all the news on the tv

I mostly listen to AAR now and I get local news on a website that has local news stories up and my mom tells me stuff since she still watches the local news. I also watch Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. Other than that zippo.

[Lengsel]

17. why?

Did they say why?

I don't think I ever wanted to kill a teacher when I was in high school.

Honestly, I wanted to shoot some of my classmates but never a teacher (not at random, specific ones). It is amazing how crappy people can be to each other. I suppose it comes from bad parenting.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

18. As of now they are saying robbery.

I doubt that's the story though. When I was a kid, the worst thing I ever imagined doing to a teacher was dropping acid (lsd)in their coffee. And even then, I never would have gotten within a mile of actually doing it.