Harvard

[DS1]

Isn't it amazing how Harvard Law School can produce someone as thorough, exacting, patient, and accurate as Fitzgerald.

While Harvard Business School gives someone as dumb, impatient, childish, and immature as Bush a Masters?

[tofubo]

1. it's one of five

harvard business, yale, georgetown, johns hopkins, and rice

just look up the hacks and crony's in the administration, the pnac, the state dept, anywhere there is a bush appointee

they graduated from one of the five, they push out the 'connected and corrupted' people that these pages and others rile about

[DS1]

2. And then tell everyone else to pull themselves up by their bootstraps

as if we can all afford to go to these fancy schools :eyes:

[Karenina]

7. Hey don't forget the Leo Strauss incubator

at Chicago U. ;-)

[tofubo]

8. a grad from johns hopkins helped start gulf war I

what she did:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/april.html

where did she go to school ??:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Glaspie

who did she work for ??:
james a baker III

do a search of all the bad shit done by reagan/bushI/bushII and more than a few graduated from the school of advanced american studies
http://www.sais-jhu.edu/

[tofubo]

10. while wilkerson & scrowcroft were kicking ass & taking names, colin was..

giving a speech @ johns hopkins !! whee
http://www.sais-jhu.edu/pubaffairs/media_events/Media_Advisories/MA2004/powell04.html

[tofubo]

11. who was Dean & Professor of International Relations @ the Paul H. Nitze

School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) of The Johns Hopkins University??

oh yeah, the comb-licker
http://www.counterpunch.org/nimmo04022005.html

[tofubo]

12. and is this guy (a georgetown prof) proved wrong or what

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=7550
The Neoconservative-Conspiracy Theory
By Robert J. Lieber
Chronicle of Higher Education | April 29, 2003

It is a conspiracy theory purporting to explain how the foreign policy of the world's greatest power, the United States, has been captured by a sinister and hitherto little-known cabal.

Many of those who disseminate the new theory had strenuously opposed war with Iraq and predicted dire consequences in the event American forces were to invade. The critics had warned of such things as massive resistance by the Iraqi military and people, a quagmire on the order of Vietnam

In words dripping with sarcasm, Eric Alterman asked readers of The Nation, "Is Wolfowitz really so ignorant of history as to believe the Iraqis would welcome us as 'their hoped-for liberators'?" And the inimitable Edward Said, writing in the London Review of Books, offered a scathing denunciation not only of Wolfowitz but of such apostates as Fouad Ajami, the Iraqi exile author Kanan Makiya, and the exile opposition leader Ahmed Chalabi for their "rubbish" and "falsifying of reality" in selling the administration a bill of goods about a quick war.

Michael Lind's language is more overtly conspiratorial. In an essay appearing in London's New Statesman and in Salon, after dismissing the columnist Robert Kagan as a "neoconservative propagandist," Lind confides the "alarming" truth that "the foreign policy of the world's only global power is being made by a small clique." They are "neoconservative defense intellectuals," among whom he cites Wolfowitz; Feith; Lewis Libby, Cheney's chief of staff; John Bolton at the State Department; and Elliott Abrams on the National Security Council.

ed. (one indictment down, 4 to go....)

author Eliot Cohen of the Johns Hopkins University, and (DINO) Senator Lieberman of Connecticut supported the president

The theory also wrongly presumes that Bush himself is an empty vessel, a latter-day equivalent of Czarina Alexandra, somehow fallen under the influence of Wolfowitz/Rasputin.

Whether one favors or opposes the Bush policies, the former Texas governor has proved himself to be an effective wartime leader.

Some foreign-policy analysts have been critical, especially of the idea of pre-emption and the declared policy of preventing the rise of any hostile great-power competitor, while others (for example, John Lewis Gaddis of Yale University) have provided a more positive assessment.

Partisanship aside, the president has shown himself to be independent and decisive, able to weigh competing advice from his top officials before deciding how to act.

Whether that strategy and its component parts prove to be as robust and effective as containment of hostile Middle Eastern states linked to terrorism remains to be seen. But to characterize it in conspiratorial terms is not only a failure to weigh policy choices on their merits, but represents a detour into the fever swamps of political demagoguery.

and people like these, and schools like those mentioned about, are pushing out those in power today

[tofubo]

13. hehehe

some grads did get it:

http://www.tboyle.net/University/Volzer_Speech.html
___________________________________________________

not hehehehe:

volzer went on to be the lawyer of one of the 'bad apples' charged in the abu ghraib

http://www.thehoya.com/news/091704/news4.cfm
Attorney Discusses Abu Ghraib Abuse Says Military Placed Undertrained Guards in Overcrowded Prison

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0405/11/ltm.04.html

Well, what no one seems to focus on is that there was no one to report to. The NCOs who were in charge of her were all there when these things were occurring. The military intelligence personnel, the interrogators who were in control of the prison, all knew that this was going on.

Brigadier General Karpinski and the people under her were never at the prison. There was frankly no way of reporting to anyone.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. My guess is

that Fitzgerald, the son of a doorman, got to Harvard on scholarship. Thus he appreciated the opportunity he was given and took full advantage of it. Bush, on the other hand, never had to work for anything. I remember one of his Harvard professors saying that Bush spent lecture time throwing spitballs and acting like an immature high school freshman. Daddy bought him his place at Harvard, just as he did his place at Yale. Bush accepted it as his due, instead of a wonderful opportunity.

[DS1]

4. Thank you

This proves half my point, any idiot can get into Harvard with enough money.

[salin]

5. Rich man's "gentlemens' Cs"

Extension of your point, with enough money - and a minimum amount of work, one can get Cs.

Don't know about Harvard, but I do know that Stanford b-school - it took a lot of work to earn As. Those striving for top jobs (eg those without family connections to give them jobs after the degree) work like dogs. However, while I can't say this was true of the b-school, I do know that at Stanford (generally speaking) the talk of grade inflation wasn't about As (those were still hard to come by) - it was about Cs - with the question ... did someone have to actually try to get below a C (as in failure was rarely given.)

[DS1]

6. Heh

My parents were once told that it took more effort to get a D than it did a C. I can tell you that's total bullshit. Then again, this was high school :D :hide:

[AlCzervik]

9. Of course Fitxgerald got in there because of his grades, not because

his daddy used to be the president.