Let me get this straight

[pnziii]

We are told by the media that Kerry is more electable than Dean.
First there was no mention of this 2 month ago was there? I mean Kerry was sinking and in fact had to mortgage his house to get the money to continue. If Kerry is so electable why is it that Dean has gotten more endorsements and has a lead in delegates. Why is it that unpledged delegates chose Dean 97 to Kerry 61.
Unpledged delegates are usually former or current political figures. I would think these people have a little better sense of who's electable than the media.

In fact we always hear how biased the media is, but when they say Kerry is electable then all of a sudden it's the gospel.

If Kerry is so electable then why was his campaign struggling. Why didn't he get more endorsments?

What really sparked Kerry's poll #'s was when people heard about him saving a soldier in Viet Nam. Everyone then all of a sudden looked at him as Presidential. I also hear people say, he's the best choice because he's a war hero and Bush can't compete against him on that.

All I say is McCain!!!!!

[jpgray]

1. I just won a bet with a friend that this was an anti-Kerry post

Cheers, you bought me dinner. :toast:

edit: Only kidding of course. Keep forgetting about sarcasm not always being transferable to an online format. But it does seem these days that I can guess what a thread is by its title.

[WatchWhatISay]

6. No, I disagree

Why is the media that we all know is corrupt, so able to influence even liberals thinking? How can we blame the uninformed if we know better, yet remain susceptible to their propoganda as well?

Once again, the media, under orders from the right, will tell us who we want as our nominee. Damn, I thought we were going to be stronger this time.

Think about it. Even the pundits are all saying lately that Dems are choosing their candidate based on electability - who can beat Bush. Well if thats true, and it is, then why wouldn't we all be of a state of mind to get behind whoever the nominee is. Which would leave all of us free to choose based on position on issues, character, experience. But we are all getting nervous and jumping ship way to soon, just to keep up with the perceptions they keep manufacturing.

We've all said it. I'd even vote for Lieberman over Bush, and I would. But it will be such a shame if we don't have the courage to do what we really want to do this time.

[jpgray]

7. But the media crapped on Kerry for months before Iowa

That's why these "the media created Kerry" bits don't make much sense. He was supposedly DOA after firing his campaign manager and tanking in NH.

[sandnsea]

2. Go look at the polls

Kerry was going up in the polls well before Jim Rassmann came on the scene. That had nothing to do with it. Kerry is ready to be President tomorrow, that's what people mean by electable. He's got it, Dean doesn't, that's all.

[BeatleBoot]

3. Kerry won in Iowa and in NH

Dean came in third ans second, respectively.

That's probably why the media is saying what they are saying.

Nothing more, nothing less.

:silly:

[ibegurpard]

4. I'll explain it to you

Kerry will not threaten the power and money brokers of the Democratic Party (Notice I didn't say individual politicians...they'll get on the winning bandwagon). That is why they will support a sub-par nominee at the risk of losing to Bush.

[jpgray]

5. And Dean will?

How? And where is it apparent in his platform?

[ibegurpard]

8. It's apparent in where his money and support was coming from

when he was enunciating themes that the party politicos were saying we couldn't say because they would make us "unelectable." He surged ahead anyway and they saw a threat that needed to be stamped out at all costs.

[pnziii]

10. Dean will pull it out.

I just sent him $100.04 to keep the battle going.

[PATRICK]

9. The press is behind the times

which contradictory to their occupation. They are a failed forum. The old adage that failure is an orphan but success has a million parents governs the nature of their mindless flockings. Stop looking for comfort from that source of judgment. Be worried when you are pleased they agree with you.

You cannot deny that Kerry is making his case. Even by doing his campaign changes makes the case he is master of his presentation, not a beneficiary of someone else's influence. That's an ironic double.

You can pick away at that, but, if it works, he's the one. As for the influence of the press, that burden all the candidates have suffered from and labor under. It's like the winter snow. A candidate can affect that in a limited fashion by getting through their thick skulls to their hearts.

Let's boost and support and see who does best. it takes some steel nerves to critique coolly? So are we running for office or the candidates? Help them all run because no one is going to help us run for the border if the thugs take over.

At this stage in the past, all this turmoil has been been much worse or much more dull. Still an excellent primary season so far- at least by comparison. Save your nails and chew on some DU campaign strategizing.

[oasis]

11. Voters had time to examine the records of both, meanwhile Dean launched

his gaffe-a-day non-strategy.