I WEnt To Church Today......Must Read

[rsmith6621]

for the first time since a little after 9/11 and YES! the place did not fall in.

A friend of my wife invited us to visit her church this AM,I am a former minister of education of a SoBapt church and am looking for a place to plug in again.

About ten minutes into todays service the Pastor was in prayer and called upon the church to pray for this country especially this week as he said that those(in GOV) who(PLAMEGATE)have done wrong would come forth and admit involvement and save the country the disgrace.but then he ask that those who dont come forward that they recieve their due punishment no matter who they are. About that time I noticed about six men get up and put on their jackets grab their bible and head to the door......this was followed by about 15 more then 10 more including wifes and kids. The Pastor stopped his prayer and with his humor said "What did we run out of Hot Dogs?" Their was a man who stopped and walked toward the Pastor and stopped about 50 ft from him and said...."You should be ashamed to talk politics but mostly you should be ashamed that you imply that president bush be involved.....leave the best president the Lord has ever had in the White House alone....he is a man of the cloth" he then stormed out and left.

Most exciting to witness the blind speaking without their brains.

Other than that the rest of the service was boring....

[darkism]

1. Kicked and nominated for being totally effing hilarious.

[elehhhhna]

2. 'blind speaking without their brains' -- a Miracle right there in church!

lol!

edit; NOMINATED!

[Quakerfriend]

34. Funniest thing I've read all day!

Kick!!

[Mr_Spock]

3. Holy crap! So these folks don't care about right or wrong, or Jesus

It's kinda scary actually. Remind me, who are the Godless immoral people again?

Utterly amazing...

[noahmijo]

4. Bush is a man of the cloth???

THat's gotta be the stupidest fucking thing I've heard this week.

So when did Bush become orgained as a Reverand?

I can't believe I live in the same country as these superstitious terminally stupid morans.

Nice of your pastor to show some guts though.

[AntiCoup2K4]

55. If Chimp is a "man of the cloth"....

It must be imported cloth.

...straight from Hell :evilgrin:

[LiberalFighter]

71. man of the cloth??? was it stolen??

I seem to recall that President Carter and President Clinton had given sermons several times during their terms. But Reagan, BushI and BushII? I don't think so!!!!

[Joe Chi Minh]

102. Yes, the Emperor's.

It was obviously a kind of cleansing of the Temple, anyway.

[silverweb]

5. "he is a man of the cloth"

Dumb and dumber. And does this stupid sucker think _georgie got his divinity degree at Harvard or in the TANG?

Wow. The stupidity is simply astounding.

Glad to hear an occasional pastor is waking up, though.

[proud2BlibKansan]

6. Whoa!

Doesn't sound too boring to me.

LOL

Going back next week?

[idiosyncratic]

7. Wow. Wish I could have been there. I haven't been to church since

I walked out after the pastor started preaching about Sodom and Gomorrah and the evils of homosexuality . . . :mad:

[Tesla]

13. These people think if you talk bad about Bush you are being

sacrilegious!! He is not a GOD!!
That's a Commandment!!
False Gods......
Must be great Kool-aid.

[pansypoo53219]

58. i

i want my god back too.

[obxhead]

8. I would have paid good hard earned money to see that

wow..... just wow.

[trogdor]

98. Hope you pulled out a large bill for the plate.

I would probably have pulled out a fifty to hear something like that in a Baptist church.

[hlthe2b]

9. So what did the minister say in reply?

Amazing that parishioners would be judging the minister re: Bush* and his "holiness."


God, teach these morons SOMETHING, please! You can't possibly want such utter ignorance to reproduce?

[LiberalinNC]

10. Bravo to the pastor!!!

[I Have A Dream]

11. I think that you found a good pastor!

I'm sure they wouldn't have said that he should be ashamed to talk politics if he had been speaking IN FAVOR of the B* administration.

[Demoiselle]

109. Agreed. He sounds like a good man.

...and from the way he phrased it, he might have been a Bush supporter who has simply seen the light.

[BrklynLiberal]

12. I am surprised they did not stand up all together and say:

"George Bush is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life."


Kudos to your pastor!!! :applause:

[Metta]

14. Really sad. These people are going to be pissed if they ever wake up

to how they've been used to divide and conquer our country and speak in support for the devil hiding in white robes.

[globalvillage]

15. I have a problem with politics in church.

From either side. IMO, it just doesn't belong there.

[Momgonepostal]

85. Agreed nt

[knitter4democracy]

97. Historically, we've always prayed for our leaders.

The Church always prays for the nation's leaders, and sometimes a priest or pastor puts a wee bit extra in the prayer. ;)

It could've been much worse and far beyond the scope of church, but all he was really doing was praying. At least it wasn't Justice Sunday or anything like that.

[Joe Chi Minh]

103. If only Archbishop Romero had had the benefit of your counsel...

[PurityOfEssence]

16. Man of the cloth? He must mean those cute British bar towels.

This is why there's separation of church and state: those who have religion are above the law and may do as they please; they're "good" by definition and their word means more than anyone else's.

[tularetom]

17. Isn't that a violation of one of the commandments

that they all love so much? No other gods before me or something like that. Are they in church to worship god or bush? This is why I say fuck organized religion. If god is indeed the omnipotent presence most would say he is then who needs a fuckin pastor to communicate with him? Besides I believe god knows bush is a weenie better than any of the rest of us. (Just my general soapbox spiel - in this case the pastor was right).

[The Doctor.]

18. Inappropriate?

Yes.

Enlightening, amazing, and amusing?

Big Yes!

Just remember... "I'm a uniter... not a divider."

[ourbluenation]

19. I would have given anything to see that! Now the bushbot

will go shopping for a church that worships * like himself. Oh my - that was funny - thanks for sharing.

[fooj]

20. A Whhhhaaaaaaaat?

"man of the cloth"...OMG! LMAO!!!!!!!!:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[DaveColorado]

21. Nominated

Thanks for the laugh.

This is why we need a "wall of separation" as Jefferson intended.

I stopped going to church when I was about 12 or 13 because I realized I was wasting my time.

My dad stopped after the priest (we were Catholic) said that those who support abortion rights should be denied communion, and after the abuse scandal.

He simply could no longer support an institution that shuffled around pedophiles.

[LiberalFighter]

73. Actually it wasn't Jefferson that wanted the wall initially...

It was James Madison the "Father of Our Constitution"

[rodeodance]

24. i am flabergasted at what do and say--!!

[Dinger]

22. Super Post!

Waaay cooool:headbang:

[BattyDem]

23. Tell me something ...

Did the pastor specifically mention Bush*? Or did he simply say, "...pray for this country especially this week that those who have done wrong would come forth and admit involvement and save the country the disgrace..."

If he didn't mention Bush* by name, then the fact that everyone assumed he was talking about Bush when he said "those who have done wrong" is very telling. It proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that these "God-fearing, bible-loving Christians" know that Chimpy is a lying traitor and they don't care! They don't give a shit about God, country, truth, honesty, integrity or justice. They worship a MAN!

Jesus Christ would be so proud. :eyes:



edited: typo

[DaveColorado]

29. Right on batty dem

They support * because “he hates those sinnin' homos!"

They know he has allowed corporations to run the government, and that Iraq and the Katrina response were both dismal failures.

"But by God, he ain't appointin' none of em homo lovin' judges!"

There are many faux Christians in this country.

Jesus' primary message was to care for the poor, the sick and the meek (e.g. Katrina victims).

[Rabrrrrrr]

31. Absolutely! Amazing how they all just assumed that the pastor was

talkin' 'bout Fuckstick. They know where the guilt is; they just won't admit it to themselves yet.

[BattyDem]

35. ROFL!

"Fuckstick" ... I like that name!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[IronLionZion]

36. Very telling indeed

Why would they get so defensive about their darling leader if he wasn't even named? :shrug: This reeks of guilt.


I don't like hearing politics in church, but it looks like this preacher wasn't naming any specific politicians and just wanted our leaders to take responsibility for their actions. Nothing wrong with that.

[BattyDem]

43. Exactly. If no names were mentioned, then I don't see it as political.

Asking that our country's leaders stand up and take responsibility is not a political thing to say, it's an American thing to say ... and I thought Christians believed in taking responsibility for one's own actions. :shrug:


edited: I MUST learn to use the damn spell checker!

[INdemo]

39. I have never ever understood Why

most Republicans think that one cannot possibly be a Christian if they are a Democrat.. I would tell them unequivically they are wrong.

[IronLionZion]

48. Because Democrats care about the poor, sick, elderly, less fortunate

We think God's children come from many different backgrounds and cultures and deserve to be treated equally as human beings. Jesus even decided to throw the merchants out of the temple. Can you imagine throwing multi-millionaire televangelists out?

But wingnuts just don't get it. There are two types of Christians: the Christian right, and the right Christians.

[INdemo]

54. Now that was well put

[ovidsen]

67. Just what I was wondering!

I'm hoping that the pastor did NOT mention the Chimp by name. If he did, I could see why some people might consider it offensive to bring "partisan" politics into church (although I wouldn't... my kind of preacher).

If he didn't, then the Chimpbot supporters who walked out, especially the one who claimed Chimp was "a man of the cloth" must be feeling awfully insecure and, dare I say it, GUILTY...

[leesa]

75. Yes. They KNOW. Very exciting. But he's the Rapture Man...so the means

justify the ends.

[npincus]

25. hilarious! maybe I should go to church too (though I'm Jewish)...

now I see what I'm missing.

[mom cat]

26. Dolllars to donuts that preacher will be run out of town on a rail by the

powers that be within a week. I saw that happen in a small town in Texas during the sixties. A really beloved preacher hinted that maybe God created all people equal...By the following week, the racists who ran the joint had replaced him with a mealy mouthed glad hander. Hope this dude fares better. Hope he knows how to fix cars.

[xmas74]

113. I live in an area where the citizens voted primarily for

*. On 9/11 our associate pastor (who served as a chaplan in Iraq) went on a wild tangent of a service about patriotism, magnet bumper stickers, flagwaving and self-interpretation of the Bible to service your own means. A few members(big * supporters) have not returned since but we've gained quite a few college students and he and his wife seemed to have earned alot of respect in the community lately.
Times seem to be changing again.

[mom cat]

114. Keep the faith, baby!

[xmas74]

115. Thank you!

A liberal Methodist in Missouri can be a hard thing to live up to.

[mom cat]

121. Good luck! My hats off to you.

[Career Prole]

27. Dude! Not "man of the cloth"! Bush is a man *spun* from whole cloth!

There's a big difference, y'know!
:rofl:

[smoogatz]

28. Those who've done wrong should come forward and save the country

the disgrace. Now there's a novel idea--Republicans actually doing the right thing. No wonder the parishoners were upset. How dare he suggest such a thing!

[Mr_Spock]

30. Astonishingly amazing how immoral Republicans are.

Absolutely, stunningly amazing...

Makes me lose even more respect for Republicans, if that's even possible. They really want us to hate.

[renate]

32. those men will be feeling pretty silly by next Sunday

That guy who called Bush a man of the cloth probably won't be making a whole lot of dramatic public statements any more.

As satisfying as it will be to see what Fitzmas brings, it'll be even more fun to watch the Bushbots' attitudes switch from arrogance to shame.

[GrantDem]

33. Bush -- A "man of the cloth"???

:wtf:

The fundies are a delusional bunch. I work with a couple of them. I firmly believe that it doesn't matter what Bush does they see no wrong.

[cmd]

94. The emperor really has no clothes

This is an echo of that fairy tale. Remember how the emperor deceived all the people into thinking he was wearing grand robes?

[Miss Chybil]

37. What kind of cloth?

Just curious.

I saw a sign in front of a church today that said, "There is a new man of God in town..." and I wondered what it takes to be "a man of God," or, not of God. They like to say man is made in the image of God and if that's the case, all men are of God. So, what is it that makes one man a man of God and another a man - who likes baseball and takes care of sick people. Who, doesn't go to church, but never breaks a "commandment?" I suppose it is only those men arrogant enough to call themselves "men of God" who qualify and to me, that in itself proves they are not.

This religion stuff is so ironical.

[BattyDem]

41. Probably ...

polyester or some other fabric that's as phony as he is. :evilgrin:

[Freedomfried]

91. Its the washcloth * stole from the "Holiday Inn Express"

Thats why he's so smert.

[Zynx]

80. If it's mixed cloth, he is breaking something from Leviticus.

I remember there being some kind of specific rule about that.

[ClayZ]

38. Wow! Kick!

:kick:

[Gregorian]

40. You witnessed a sampling of a vast population.

The inflexible. The followers of lies. The stupid.

They are the ones who voted for The Cheerleader.

What it is they want, is hard to know. What it is they are afraid of, is pretty obvious. What little they know, they don't want disrupted. It's like someone gave them a box, and told them something extremely valuable was in it. But told them never to open it. So they go about, boasting of their wealth. What they don't realize is they were lied to. There's nothing in the box. But they refuse to hear. However, there will come a time when they see for themselves. But by then, many people will have died and suffered. I don't know what to say. It's selfish. It's stupid. They were duped by their "leaders" and by their "media".



By the way, you can see the power the clergy hold. Many churches were literally paid by the Bush administration to pipe their line for them, before the election. Can you believe it!

[silverweb]

52. Very well put!

What little they know, they don't want disrupted. It's like someone gave them a box, and told them something extremely valuable was in it. But told them never to open it. So they go about, boasting of their wealth. What they don't realize is they were lied to. There's nothing in the box. But they refuse to hear.

The analogy is absolutely appropriate.

[newportdadde]

106. Spot on.

In the most harsh times, perhaps when they have no money to heat their house they will look to the box for help and find it empty.

[Kittycat]

42. I would have shaked the pastor's hand.

And congratulated him for having the courage to pray for our country. Sadly, it takes courage these days (in church) to point out what is going so horribly wrong in this country.

[mamalone]

44. WHAAAAA???

"He is a man of the cloth"??? Where I come from that term refers to a priest, minister..that sort of thing. Even those deluded creatures that think that Bush is God's best and brightest don't think of him as a pastor...that is just the wierdest thing I have ever heard.

All that said though, I am incredibly jealous...that Pastor sounds like a great guy. My faith is very important to me and it is a source of constant grief to me that those who share my spiritual beliefs most often are at the polar opposite end of the political spectrum. I'd give my right arm to go to a church where the leadership put the actual meaning of the scriptures first.

[AirmensMom]

45. That's great!

:rofl:

[prescole]

46. Jay-zusss Cha-rist shall burn thee with righteous brimstone

for thy desecration of our Great Lead...er, 'scuse me, I just dropped my snakes.

[NAO]

89. Bless yer soul, Brother. Few kin preach hellfire-n-brimstone anymore

All that libril clap-trap about the 'love of god' and feedin the hungry freeloaders. Like it says in the Bible, 'God helps thems who helps themselves'.

I could git ya some scorpins fer a swap fer some of them snakes. We need 'em for the chruch services and the youngins here ate all the snakes in this county.

[dandrhesse]

47. looks like you found a good pastor!

We haven't been to church since a few months before the election. We have tried a couple of times, but the rhetoric about politics is so disturbing that I get mad, and being mad in a house of God is not my idea of worship. It makes me very angry that the clergy of this country have led their flocks astray.

By the way, where were all the frontliners, Dobson, Franklin Graham, Lucado, etc etc during the floods in New Orleans.

Everytime there is one in Jeb country, I mean florida they run down there to help Jeb. That really made me sick that no one had the guts to go to New Orleans.

To me they are even more guilty than Bush, they know better and they are leading believers to follow a false teacher and lead them astray from the truth and that is one of the seven deadly sins, right in the Bible it states that leading a believer astray is about the worst possible thing a person can do!

I am amazed they haven't been struck down by lightening!

[bobbieinok]

99. 1 of the big preachers sent $+people to Gretna (town that turned NOLANs ba

back from bridge)

[Peace Patriot]

49. Well, I think it's interesting how the Bible-thumper cloth man leaped...

...to the conclusion that Bush was guilty. Did he get that from "no matter who they are"? Big stretch--from what the Pastor was saying (according to your account), to "Bush being involved" (thence to, leave that "man of the cloth" alone).

If he's plugged into to others of his ilk, we may be hearing gossip: They know Bush is involved; they are extremely touchy (worried) about it; their defense will be along religious lines (sanctity of the priest or the monarch to know and implement god's will; human laws don't apply).

The pathology of these "Bush is God" people is also interesting. What does he mean, exactly, by "a man of the cloth"? Usually it means anointed priest or ordained minister: A male (of course) specifically invested with the sanctitude of this Patriarchal, father-worshiping, woman-excluding brotherhood. Is there something here we don't know about, that Bush is actually an ordained minister? Has he been invested in some secret ceremony as yahweh's gift to the brethren?

And, if not, what is it, that comes out of his mouth, that would move a churchgoer to use this resonant and specific phrase, "a man of the cloth"? Ah, I think it must be the Crusades that is being referred to, whereby killing Arabs was sanctified by the church. There were the Templars, who actually wore special garments, and were considered a religious order. And all the killers who marched off across Europe to Jerusalem had an odor of sanctity, as if it were "god's purpose"--and the desire of baby Jesus--that people go kill and rape and steal, in order to claim a spot on the map, the place Jesus happened to be born, from the Infidel (those who didn't consider him god).

Utter madness--undoubtedly driven then, as now, by arms dealers and war profiteers.

Man of the cloth. The irony being that women made the cloth, not men. They'd be naked savages otherwise; or wearing bearskins. (Typical.)

Did you know that the First Crusade was actually against the French--the Albigensians--who believed that, to be perfect, you had to abstain from all fleshly desires, but that most people could not do so, so they could freely engage in fulfilling their desires--good food, sex, dancing, singing, whatever--while they worked out their karma (so to speak).

And for this, 20,000 of them were summarily slaughtered (for not adhering to the doctrinal dictates of the "one and only true Roman Catholic Church," rule from Rome). Thus, the Mary Magdalen movement (the Goddess movement) was wiped out in southern France. It was probably closer to Jesus' true beliefs than anything we have seen before or since.

Except maybe the hippies ("Make love, not war.")

The trouble with Bush Jr. is that he is no Richard the Lionheart--doesn't have even the nobility of a warrior. He's just a punk, who orders others to their deaths from far away. More like a Pope, actually. Hm-m-m. The Pope of the Christian Right, calling on all good Christians to go kill and torture the Infidel, and bring to the loot back to him. Do you think they do Black Masses in the White House? Have secret ceremonies there? Have formed an actual church there, with its own voodoo and its own anointed "men of the cloth," and its own "papal dictae"?

Evocative phrase, that.

[Gloria]

50. How many stayed???

eom

[IndyOp]

53. Yes, how many?

Did you hear anything afterwards? Supportive? Critical?

Also - 'the rest was boring?' -- GEEZ -- that wasn't exciting enough for you? What were you expecting, magic tricks? Athletic feats?

Actually - if you want those things - visit a Unitarian Church. One of our Revs is an amazing man whose friends include Howard Zinn and the Berrigan brothers - he does magic tricks. The other Rev is also amazing and she promised that if everyone registered their kids for ed classes by the deadline she would leap a chair in church (she was a track-and-field hurdler in college), and they did, so she did. :rofl:

Unitarian Universalism - The Uncommon Denomination

Also, we don't proselytize, we just invite. :-)

[Lydia Leftcoast]

51. Meanwhile, we had a bishop preaching who said that it was

shameful that the richest nation in the world had cut assistance for the poor and aid to education NOT during a depression but during a time of prosperity.

Nobody walked out.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

69. Yeah, but them's those pinko Episcopalians.

Seriously, I gotta go back to St. Mark's if they're going all lefty again.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

72. I'll wave to you as you walk past the choir stalls

:hi:

[mike_c]

56. nominated-- heads are exploding everywhere....

What will they do when the boosh WH collapses entirely?

[JPZenger]

57. My church never mentions politics

I belong to a United Methodist Church. With the four ministers who have served there, no one has ever mentioned politics. They pray for wisdom for our leaders, but never presume that God has an opinion about a certain bill or court appointee. I sincerely believe that is best. There has never been any mention of abortion in my church, and almost no mention of homosexuality.

There are plenty of spiritual matters and matters of charity without taking on divisive partisan issues.

The closest thing that ever happened in our church involving partisan politics was when one minister passed out a voter information flyer from the moral majority. I was offended, particularly because candidates were asked to provide yes or no responses to very loaded questions. Fortunately, those flyers never appeared again.

[Catherine Vincent]

59. That is funny but the preacher was wrong for inserting politics into his

sermon. He should apologize to the congregation.

[Carolab]

84. I disagree. Jesus inserted politics into his sermons.

Jesus of Nazareth lived and taught in a time of intense nationalism and social unrest. Contrary to the popular portrait of Jesus standing aloof from governmental concerns and calling his disciples to an apolitical life, Jesus took a keen interest in issues of power and status, and taught on subjects as perennial and secular as taxation and civil disobedience.

The true mission of Christianity--righting social ills, working for peace--is in tune with the values of liberals who so often run screaming from the idea of religion. Meanwhile, the religious vocabulary has been co-opted by conservatives who use it to polarize.

[NobleCynic]

117. I agree, religion is inherently political

Even if it is not Christianity, it is almost impossible for religion to be separated from politics. To pretend otherwise is to admit you don't let your morals influence your political beliefs, which is absolute nonsense. Political parties and religions share more similarities than differences, much to the horror of both groups.

[grannylib]

60. the Imbecile, a man of the cloth??? He must have meant

"needs mental floss."

Biggest fuckin' moron the WH has ever been disgraced with.

[hootinholler]

61. A man of that special cloth...

That can only be seen by the pure at heart.

-Hoot

[Az_lefty]

62. This is exactly why I haven't been to a S. Baptist church in some time...

too many nuts who think the chimp is speaking for God or some other nonsense. I got sick and tired of it and never went back. Glad to hear this pastor had the nerve to be honest. Let the fruits and nuts walk, he doesn't need them bringing down his church.

[AX10]

65. I don't except "Southern Baptists" as "Christians".

They are a cult, period.

[DarkTirade]

88. Y'know why they split with the regular baptists, right?

It was over slavery. Southern baptists thought that the bible condoned it, and the rest didn't.

[bobbieinok]

100. I believe Methodists + Presbyterians split too....only SBapts never tried

to reunite with the others

1st the others were called Northern Baptist; now I think it's American Baptist

[Maraya1969]

63. I hope you thanked him in that line that you go through at the end

I can't even remember the name of it it's been so long :rofl: But maybe the pastor needs some support. I hope he doesn't cave to those little kids that walked out with their children.

[njdemocrat106]

64. I know the Catholic Church gets a bad rep here regarding politics...

but the closest I've heard politics in a Catholic church was when I heard a priest chastise the Swift Boat Liars (not by name, but the way he insinuated it, it was definitely the Swifties). Meanwhile, I read accounts of Evangelical Protestant services, and it seems like that's all they talk about during the sermons. My late dad (Presbyterian) got into an argument at his after-church donuts and coffee meeting with some guy he was talking with who said "God put President Bush in the White House!" My dad's response: 'no, the Supreme Court put him in the White House!"

Good on that pastor, BTW. He seems like a good man.

[Vektor]

66. Bush is a man of the LOIN cloth.

Chimpy of the Apes. And as far as the "best president the Lord has ever seen"...

BWAA-AHAHAHAHAHAHA *gasp* BWAAAA-HAHAHAHAHAH :rofl:

[Hissyspit]

68. Um, when exactly did the pastor mention BUSH by name...?

Methinks they doth protest too much.

[mirandapriestly]

70. I'm glad I go to a Unitarian church

Today the pastor called the people who believe the fear tactics of the current administration "sheep". I laughed, I couldn't help it.

[leesa]

74. This is exciting because they KNOW Bush is involved.

I have always maintained that this will be an enormously painful thing for these Fundie BushBots because they will come to realize their belief system has been totally wrong.

That's a lot of folks walking out...still lots of delusion.

[Kathryn STone]

76. woo hoo! he who excuses himself accuses himself!! bwhahahahaha

[madmax]

77. Bravo to the Pastor

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[Steely_Dan]

78. Not Sure What is So Damn Funny,,,

This is nothing less than frightening. With that kind of incident, it is clear that there are some (maybe more than some) that will fight to the end to support this moron. How does this bode well for our future???

-P

[Fridays Child]

79. Their very reaction shows that they believe Bush is guilty.

For all they knew, the pastor could have had lower level functionaries on his mind--Matalin, Hannah, etc. Why did they assume he meant Bush?

[1932]

81. I hope you go back to that church and put one dollar in the collection

plate every week for every person who walked out.

Jeez, if you can't talk about moral and ethical politics in church, where can you talk about it?

[NAO]

82. I do contract work in an Xtian School, and they all ADORE Bush

They do not believe anything bad they hear about him.

They teach the students hard-right views as if they were simply "correct".

[Carolab]

83. Sounds like you found a home.

This Pastor needs some support.

[texpatriot2004]

86. God Bless that Pastor. I would like to shake his hand and thank

him. There should be more like that.

[pa28]

87. "Best President the Lord has had in the White House".

What a gem.

I'd like to hear this guy's breakdown of Bush's actual holy, bible compatible, New Testament actions in the White House. I'm sure it would be a short list.

And no, invading Iraq after God told him to does not count.

[dchill]

90. Jesus.

[Love Bug]

92. Geez, all the pastor did was ask for the truth to come out...

Don't those who stormed out have more confidence in Bush than that? :sarcasm:

[No Exit]

93. I'll bet the cock crowed thrice as they left! n/t

[ComerPerro]

95. I'd say the preacher was wrong to even mention it, but thats just insane

I don't blame people for walking out. I would have if the situation were reversed.

But the guy who said that Bush is the greatest president we have ever had, and that he is a man of the cloth...


What

the

fuck

???

[elehhhhna]

96. ManO'the Cloth? As in PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN?

[GreenPartyVoter]

101. Oh that is SO wonderful!!!! *lol*

[Dawgs]

104. I thought O'Reilly said no one pays attention to this stuff...

;-)

[Dawgs]

105. I thought O'Reilly said no one pays attention to this stuff...

;-)

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

107. Good for the pastor

The right has had so many of us in the nation bamboozled that we are afraid to call wrong wrong.

Too many churches, church leaders, and self-proclaimed religious folks are at the root of much of the corruption and decadence that has taken over the country.

Taken out of context, that could sound almost like what the religious right has said. The difference: they would be wrong and were wrong and will be wrong.

[annabanana]

108. "due punishment no matter who they are"

Isn't it funny that so many hear this and think "Bush"? How many were still in the congregation once the "bush is god" crowd left?

[rateyes]

110. I don't like mixing religion and politics either....

but, I have to laugh at the minister asking if they had run out of hot dogs, as if to say that those leaving only come to be "entertained." That line was brilliant....

[Mr_Spock]

111. This story sounds a lot like one I read here a year ago...

Same thing happened - people in a conservative protestant Church walked out and made a comment to the Pastor about discussing politics in Church. Seems to be a pattern with bigots who go to church...

[Ian_rd]

112. The Pastor was right, but his church was not the place to talk politics

He had a chance to hold his political opinions to himself while preaching religion, but he screwed up and became like that dumbass who kicked people out of his church for not voting Republican.

Keep it seperate, I say.

[xmas74]

119. Yes and no.

Actual political affiliation should be kept out of the service but matters of social agenda should not. Churches should preach more about protecting those who are less fortunate and encourage their congregations to write letters to their reps, volunteer time, etc.
As a Christian it is apart of your "duty" to assist those who are less fortunate than yourselves. Technically, some of that would fall into the political spectrum(since the raving neocons think that social progress sucks for this country). Then again, the idea of taking blame when you are at fault and asking for forgiveness is also something that was taught to me at an early age in the church. It is proof that no one is perfect and that we all need to look deep into our hearts and ask for forgiveness for our trepasses.
/end of mini-sermon

[NobleCynic]

116. A reminder that we have allies in the faiths

Keep in mind that on average the priests and ministers are less conservative, especially on poverty and other economic issues, than the Republican base. This whole corruption affair will weaken the religious strength of the Republican party, excepting of course the minority who truly are nothing but automatons.

[happydreams]

118. Church is a great place to talk politics, very appropriate

forum. Hell, if Creationists can teach their stuff in our schools, why can't political science be taught in church? In fact I think that church's should be required to set aside some time to let evolutionists and other scientists share their point of view on Earth's history.

Plus I always like to see religious dimplebrains get driven out of somewhere.

[izzie]

120. Well look at all the people who drank kool-aid and this sin

made their own children drink it also. People with out brains will do any thing. Takes a lot of people with IQ's under 100 to make the ave. 100 you know.

[belle]

122. "You shouldn't talk politics in church! I mean, not THOSE politics!"

snerk.

I agree that the pastor should not be praying over specific issues if his church is tax-exempt on religious grounds.

that said, it's pretty fucking funny.