It Is The Worst of Times for Times Select...

[wakemewhenitsover]

Apparently, Judith Miller exploited this country's faith in the New York Times' heretofore unparalleled standards of excellence to justify and tacitly condone an invasion which has done unprecedented damage to our country and to the world.

We who have loved the New York Times since we were old enough to read are crushed and disillusioned. Losing your faith in the Supreme Court of the United States is one thing, but the paper that once made Sunday morning worthwhile?

Has it occurred to the New York Times publishers that this is not the ideal time to persuade DUer's and our fellow denizens of the Internet, to subscribe to Times Select?

[hfojvt]

1. it is another attack on liberals

We have to pay to read Herbert, Krugman, and Modo. Writers who have given us much solace over the last four years.
We can still read people like Judith Miller online for free, can't we?

[wakemewhenitsover]

5. Most of all, I miss Frank Rich. Here's Krugman website...

http://www.pkarchive.org/

[MADem]

2. Especially since these here internets have just made it a pain in the ass

to get the content, and have not made it impossible at all. They aren't really "protecting" it, all they are doing is sending people to other sites where people rip it off, either in toto, or use a "fair use" game where they snip it off, a paragraph or five at a time, and post it sequentially.

The NYT ought to get smart, find a way to put their ads up there on the side, in low-rez for the dial up types, and make their money that way. Skip the popup shit, people have blockers. If they were REALLY smart, they'd post large, juicy links to related articles as well, with catchy headlines, to keep people clicking once they enter the "sloppy journalism" zone.

[Eric J in MN]

4. They could make people watch an online ad for a minute

for a one-day pass. That is what salon.com does for people who don't subsribe.

[MADem]

7. And they are doing just fine, nowadays

They were in the shits, for the longest time there.

I take a small measure of responsibility for those ads, BTW. YEARS ago, I sent a letter to SALON suggesting that they do just that. At the time, I got back a long bullshit excuse that it wouldn't pay to do it. I told them flat out that I would not subscribe, because I could get the content for free in convoluted fashion.

They finally came round to my business model, and they live to fight another day.

[Eric J in MN]

9. Thanks for promoting that business model (nt)

nt

[DainBramaged]

10. For that reason I refuse to read Salon and USA Today

You want to pop a huge ad in my face to get a day pass to read content that costs next to nothing to put on your website, I'll read My Way or Yahoo news first thank you. These destroyers of the environment with their newsprint that needs a magnifying glass to read if you're over 50 don't deserve to be paid unless thy can find ways that make ads available without intruding on my reading experience.

Narrow your pages, line the sides with ads and include things LIBERALS want to buy and I'll read your content. Otherwise, I'll find it elsewhere. The music companies ripped us off for decades and then sharing software came and they STILL didn't lower prices until they were on the brink. newspaper may be the next target if they continue to restrict news.

Or we may just abandon them all together.

[wakemewhenitsover]

6. Smart. Hope they're listening...

[wakemewhenitsover]

8. At least make columns free after 48 hours...

[Sarah Ibarruri]

3. I wrote the NY Times and advised them to fire Judy the Snake

Hopefully if they receive enough attacks for having someone of that low a caliber on board the NY Times, they'll give her her walking papers and kick her booty out the door.

[spooky3]

13. by doing that, they'd save enough $ to bring back columns

we want to read.

[peacetalksforall]

11. Ms Judith Miller did not perform as a journalist, she was an operativein.

regard to everything she did concerning Iraq and this regime. From her presence, participation, front table position, and the deference paid to her at a journalism seminar this past Thursday was an abomination. To think that there are some people who still feel that she should be protected is a bunch of crap and an insult to journalism. How anyone in the journalistic world can still call her a journalist in regard to her role in causing death and maiming to our young kids and t h o u s a n d s of innocent Iraqis is absolutely fanatical, stupid, arrogant, and a lie.

Journalism has been destroyed in this country because of her and others just like her.

We are allowing the destruction of this country.

Miller - Evildoer
Cheney - Evildoer
Chalabi - Evildoer

Where is a journalist who can come forward to whistleblow against her. What a pathetic destoyer of humans.

[wakemewhenitsover]

14. Over 1 0 0 , 0 0 0, some estimate. To think NYT is complicitous

really breaks my heart. What institutions are left for us to believe in?

[spooky3]

12. You can read Krugman and others at this website:

www.topplebush.com

It's free. You may have to wait a few days. But it's worth it.

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

15. Miller is an embarrassment for the NYT, though not the only one lately

Considering the way Thomas Friedman has been shilling for Empire and world corporatism, and David Brooks all the same-- quite a few people there have facilitated our debacle in Iraq. The Times is at its lowest point perhaps in decades.

[peacetalksforall]

16. It is evident that the NYT is suspect and it is obvious from all their

endorsements, editorials, and the silent implications of not investigating what is important to U.S. citizens that they are in the bag.

Funny, in the last major scandal, the Wash Post was seen as a hero and int he following years as we lerned about the Grahams and the Bradleys and the Post in general, we find that they too have bee in the bag with the right wing.

Then we have a newspaper empire owned by a people hater - Murdoch.
And we have a newspaper owned by a man who claims (seriously) that he will rule the earth - Moon.

And we have all kinds of newspapers that morphed right - Miami Herald, LA Times.

What is the difference between the USSR and the USA in propaganda coming from what is supposed to be fair news reporting. At least in the USSR they didn't seem to pretend so much - or - everyone knew that it was pretend, while in the US, people still believe in them.

What we have is not what our founders had in mind.