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adamrsilva Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:13 PM
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Kerry won for 2 reasons
1) People think Dean is unelectable

2) People don't trust Clark


Not to be inflammatory, but do we really want to nominate the fall-back candidate?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:14 PM
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1. Here is a better way of saying that.
Kerry is the best candidate. (BTW, I don't think that's true).
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:15 PM
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2. "Not to be inflammatory", but
do you really think your opinion is persuasive when presented without any supporting evidence?

WHY did Democrats think Dean is unelectable?

Because of the media? So why couldn't Dean get his message out in a state (NH) he's been campaigning in for 2 years and spent millions of dollars on winning?
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Dark Star Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:23 PM
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5. "Not to be inflammatory", but
do you really think your opinion is persuasive when presented without any supporting evidence?

WHY did Democrats think Clark is untrustworthy?




:hi: , sangh0
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:25 PM
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7. Good question
Not only "Why did Dems think Clark is untrustworthy?" but also "Do Dems think Clark is untrustworthy?"
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:18 PM
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3. If we're not willing to take a gamble
this is what we get. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with Kerry, he's just not doing anything groundbreaking or particularly inspiring. Maybe the country isn't ready for that yet, tho.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:20 PM
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4. if the country wanted to be inspired
parties like the Green Party would be taken more seriously because they seem to represent more of what the majority of Americans believe than both the Democrats and Republicans.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:23 PM
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6. "not to be inflammatory but" is my first clue that the intent was to be
inflammatory.

I think people voted for Kerry because his commercials expressed a vision ..I saw his ads...they were pretty good. I also think name identification has a lot to do with it but not much.

I think people chose him for experience..both at the senate and state level.
People have now had three years of an alleged outsider and their lives aren't much better for wear..maybe they've had a change of heart on all that tripe regarding "outsider" versus "insider" and are ready to vote for someone with a large brain..large enough to know when to shut up.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:25 PM
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8. With all due respect, nsma
I think you are correct
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Dark Star Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:27 PM
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10. 2 is to 5
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 04:28 PM by Dark Star
as 8 is to 10

(in other words: me, too! me, too!)


(edited because 9 became 10 {hello, Molly!})
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:30 PM
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14. Hey!
:hi: :kick:
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:28 PM
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13. Let's do an analogy - Kerry is the adult - Dean the child
Kerry is the icon - Dean is the ?
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:30 PM
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15. Bush, an Outsider??
The son of a Congressman,
son of VP
son of CIA Director
son of President if US

outsider? LOL
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:26 PM
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9. Negativity and rage is why Dean is losing
Clark is just too unknown - doesn't make him bad.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:27 PM
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11. Thanks for setting this particular stage. I happen to agree.
Democrats seem to have "evolved" from non-voters to voters who insist on "playing it safe".

In my opinion,that's yet another losing Dem strategy. We need to set a clear agenda and show how we're different.

I'll admit I'm biased. How many people really think Kerry's bringing us something truly different and how many think he's just nudging the system slightly left?
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:28 PM
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12. slippery slope
When people put their perceived best hope over issues we are in deep doo doo.

It's NOT the way to pick leaders.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:33 PM
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16. You're buying right into the media spin
1. They probably thought that Kerry is more likely to be elected, which is a different kettle of fish than consigning Dean to the UNELECTABLE Bin.

2. There are 4 other candidates besides Clark. None of them are trustworthy? Or did people think they're less likely to beat Bush?
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Frederic Bastiat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 04:34 PM
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17. Clark is from Arkansas
NH is not exactly his backyard. I concur with you on Dean.
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