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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:19 PM
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It's far too soon to ask me to support your candidate.
I keep seeing 'it's time to rally behind Sen. Kerry' threads here, and they're beginning to annoy me, quite frankly.

I would like to point out to the over-exuberant as well as to the clueless that there has been one caucus in a very small, non-diverse Northern state and one primary in a very small, non-diverse Northern state. The fact that Sen. Kerry won both is interesting, but is neither a particularly relevant nor compelling reason to stop supporting my candidate and start supporting him instead. At stake in each of several states next week will be more delegates in a single state than the number of delegates from Iowa and New Hampshire combined. Were I to follow some Kerry supporters' logic, were Sen. Edwards to win South Carolina, I should then be able to turn around and ask all Kerry supporters to now back Sen. Edwards.

It's too early for the 'jump on the bandwagon' pleas, folks; this is a 50-state process and it's hardly 'in the bag' for Sen. Kerry. If you DO want our support if he ultimately does secure the nomination, it might be a good idea to stop gratuitously pissing people off with your untimely pleas for unity.

Thanks.
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:22 PM
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1. You're making too much sense here
please reconsider, this is politics after all:evilgrin:
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:23 PM
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4. *grin*
I know that logic is rare here, but I didn't know it was unacceptable. :P
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:22 PM
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2. I think we should rally behind Dean
He has the most delegates so far. He is the front-runner. We should all give up and support Dean. This thing is over. /sarcasm
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:51 AM
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31. I appreciate the sarcasm, but that's a great point.
Dean does have the most delegates. So how is Kerry even the frontrunner at all? Answer: He's not.

Of course if you want to support Dean, we wouldn't mind ;)

But I'm not expecting any supporters of the "final four" to jump ship just yet.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:23 PM
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3. Thank you, and I would like to point out that all of the candidates
we have are fine men and don't deserve the bashing they get from "fellow democrats" just becasue they aren't the one they happen to be supporting.

We should be celebrating unity and record turn-out, not pissing each other off becasue we have a difference in who should win the nomination.

It is a democracy people, may the best man win and I will support him whole-heartedly.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:23 PM
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5. You couldn't be more right....
there's still a long way to go. Hang in there.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:26 PM
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6. i think we should rally
behind the statement "A DEMOCRAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE" .
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:27 PM
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8. THAT I'll agree with.
:)
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SadEagle Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:27 PM
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7. One nitpick.
It's not a 50-state process. It also involves D.C. and the territories ;-)
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:31 PM
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9. As a Kerry supporter, I agree with you 100%.
I'm not counting Edwards out at all, both him and Clark are very close seconds to Kerry in my mind.

It's a good thing you weren't here when all the "Dean is inevitable" threads were posted and we were urged to drop our candidates. And this was before even one vote was cast!
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:31 PM
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10. here,here
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:31 PM
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11. Be realistic
I like Kerry and I like Dean. The South may not and we need a few Southern States to win in 2004. That is why we need to take a good long look at Clark and Edwards.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:35 PM
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12. I feel like Kerry is being shoved down our throats!!
The media is fawning, people here are calling for us to rally behind him. I'm seeing posts from people on DU saying that they support "insert candidates name here", but are going with Kerry now. I can't believe we're doing this based on the vote in two states. People.. there is plenty of time to fall in line behind the nominee. Stick to your candidates, whomever they may be.

I'm not simply going to support Kerry just because he won two votes. It doesn't change him as as a candidate, nor does it change me. If I was going to support him, I would have done so by now. I'm ABB, so if he gets the nod, I'll support him. But not because I'm to assume he's the eventual winner. That's not why I vote. I vote because I want to choose someone that shares my vision...
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:38 PM
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14. Living in Illinois...
... it would be nice to actually vote in the primary when it was still relevant, as it could be this year. I personally don't think NH and IA should dictate who is our nominee, because I'd like to vote on that.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:37 PM
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13. What about people who aren't as committed as you?
Is it too soon to ask them?

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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:40 PM
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15. It's too soon to ask, period. n/t
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:18 PM
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21. We can't try to sway undecideds? When will it be ok for us to campaign?
After the campaign is over?

lol

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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:19 AM
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26. There's a difference between extolling the virtues of one's candidate
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 12:19 AM by spooky3
(especially in comparison to *) and telling others here that it is time for all the other candidates to drop out and for their supporters to switch to your candidate, especially when only two small states have voted and there are several viable and strong candidates.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:49 AM
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30. Well, it's your opinion
that there are several viable candidates, but even if I did agree with that, I would still say that it is appropriate during a campaign to try to convince people to support your candidate.

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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:50 PM
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16. Kick
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:17 PM
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17. Kick
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:19 PM
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18. It's too soon
I agree. We've got a long way to go and alot of people around the country who deserve to just cast their vote. Sorry, some people are just excited.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:22 PM
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19. Yeah.
They need to ratchet their excitement down a bit, though, because they're beginning to risk alienating a lot of other Democrats, just like some of the Dean people did earlier.

:hi:
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:13 PM
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20. Kick
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:32 AM
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33. Agreed
Let the election process play out.

If people feel they have gotten to participate, & if Kerry wins at the end of the race, people will be more likely to support him.

Let us have real competition beyond 1 caucus & 1 primary in Kerry's almost home state.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:27 PM
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22. Thank you
Nice to know I'm not the only one here who thinks all American Democrats should have the right to have a say in this thing.

And, yes, I will gladly support your boy if he gets the nomination. Until then, I'm not abandoning Dean.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:51 PM
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25. Good, to quote Gephardt's leaving speech "never give up"
Thanks, I will support your guy if hes the one too.
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:31 PM
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23. Kick and Agree!
It sort of like trolling funerals for widows and widowers.

Not really--but the tastelessness of it however sugar coated the words is the same.

If anything it turns me off of the various candidate being proferred all the more. If a candidate's supporter would be so low to act that way...well then...I wouldn't want to be in their ranks.

It's going to continue w/ the Dean/Kerry thing though. The "usual suspects" will continue with actions from all sides. Oh well.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:49 PM
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24. well said
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:41 AM
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27. I have only begun to fight...
...I think Kerry also said he wants us to bring it on.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:44 AM
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28. its time to rally behind HAMM
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:46 AM
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29. Hey, if your for Edwards, keep on fighting.
California may decide the election and they like movie-star types out here. Besides, Edwards is second best on civil rights (behind Dennis).
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Edge Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:52 AM
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32. I haven't jumped the Kerry bandwagon...and I don't plan on it...
until November, if he gets the nomination. I will continue to support Dennis Kucinich and John Edwards until the very end.
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