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Columbus Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:13 AM
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Hackett, Dem addictions, meeting
The latest update is at
www.OhioHonestElections.org

David Woodruff, the former campaign manager of the Hackett Ohio 02 campaign and current advisor on the senate campaign will be attending the Sunday, October 16, 2005 Citizens For Hackett meeting. R.S.V.P. is strongly recommended.

The link also has excerpts from both articles in the current Mother Jones Magazine on Paul Hackett. The excerpts include this: "Then Schumer called, and this time he wasn’t delivering a pep talk. Hackett got the distinct sense that he was being asked to make way for the party insider. “Schumer didn’t tell me anything definitive,” he says. “But I’m not a dumb ass, and I know what he wanted me to do.”

and “Hackett, who says he’s still considering his options, is less sanguine—and less diplomatic. “The Democratic Party is like an addict,” he says. “They’re addicted to failure. I want to help the party. The question is, how do you help someone that doesn’t want help?”

Only Sherrod Brown can deliver us from a wasteful primary in Ohio by not announcing because it is very clear that Hackett is not going to be pushed out.

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:16 AM
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1. I sincerely hope Hackett won't be pushed out. That would be so
depressing and bad news IMO for picking up DeWine's seat.
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Columbus Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:01 PM
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6. Hackett on who will win
In the Mother Jones Magazine excerpts at the website Hackette is quoted as saying

“To me, a race between two professional politicians is a no-brainer win for DeWine. You’re not gonna throw out a sitting senator in a Republican state with a very liberal Democratic longstanding US congressman.”
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:13 PM
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8. I think if he really wants to run he should
And the people should choose who they want. That's what elections are all about.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:28 AM
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2. I am hoping that Hackett stands his ground, and don't know why
Schumer would want him out, especially after Hackett doing so awesome in that Repub district.

You would think Schumer would be excited about Hackett?!?!
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:29 AM
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3. If the Democratic Party is addicted to losing,why not go with Hackett?He
lost.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:46 AM
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4. Your analysis is flawed, at best, and
ingenuine at worst.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 11:48 AM
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5. He didn't lose?I'd say he genuinely lost.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:11 PM
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7. Such a simplistic world you live in. Your analysis is flawed in that
Hackett, as a candidate, apparently got the support of the Democratic voters and a sizable number of independents and Republican voters also.

Since winning the US Senate race in Ohio will depend on getting not only Democratic but also a sizable number of independents and also some Republicans to vote for the Democratic candidate, the question should be who is the better candidate to accomplish that?

I checked out Browns voting record and from my point of view, it's great. It does bother me that only month or two ago Brown gave Hackett his blessing and assurences that he didn't intend to run. I also wonder how independent and moderate voters will respond to Browns voting record.

Or is your analysis that any Democratic candidate is a shoe-in in a statewide race?

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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:24 PM
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9. Maybe if he'd simply win his district first the idea of running a proven
loser for Senator wouldn't seem so flawed.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:34 PM
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10. As I said, your political analysis skills seem a little simplistic.
And you didn't bother to address any of the points I made, yet just repeat the same thing over and over.

If that's all you got, then there's not much point in discussing politics with you.

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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:41 PM
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11. There might be a chair open for you at the Algonquin Roundtable.
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 01:41 PM by Algorem
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:10 PM
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13. Totally lame and unresponsive...
Alright, yes Hackett lost, but as an underdog neophyte in a heavily, heavily conservative district. I think he demonstrated some vote-getting ability there, even if he couldn't win one of the most redneck districts in the state. One could presume that he would do better state-wide. Now, do you have anything of substance to add to the discussion?
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:21 PM
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14. "Redneck"?That's not very high-minded,now is it?
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Columbus Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:10 PM
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12. Hackett helps down ballot races
I think you hit a good point regarding Hackett's popularity with Dems and Independents, even some republicans.

This popularity could help us in down ballot races in Ohio. It also helps Dems nationally to be running an Iraq veteran in a year that Iraq will clearly be an issue.

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