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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 05:18 PM
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Poll question: Are you more qualified to be a Supreme Court Justice than Harriet Miers?
I am certain that there are a lot of people here more knowledgeable about the Bill of Rights and the Constitution than Harriet Miers. Since Bush just picked the person standing closest to his secrets, I wanted to see how many here were more qualified than that person.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 05:21 PM
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1. I don't have any training in law, so no.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 05:23 PM
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2. In Texas, the Bar Exam reportedly involves a real bar and real drinks.
The joke at law schools around America is that, in Texas you have to drink a minimum number of drinks and then you are in. Most attorneys don't normally consider Texas lawyers to be real attorneys.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 05:26 PM
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4. I'm not a drinker either. ;-)
However, I've heard that the Texas Bar Exam is fairly easy. Maybe I could pass it with a little studying.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 05:39 PM
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7. And then you, too, could be nominated for Supreme Court.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 05:53 PM
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11. what about fights? i'm pretty good in bar fights!
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 05:24 PM
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3. I feel that I am more qualified...
...because I am more unbiased and clear-headed than Harriet is.

I have no connection whatsoever to George Bush. I feel no loyalty toward him, nor any pressure to make decisions that are favorable to him, his cronies, his corporate friends or his family.

I would uphold the Constitution--purely and simply.

Therefore, I feel MORE qualified than Harriet.

Better to have a blank slate, than a slate filled with IOUs to one of the most incompetent thugs ever to be president of ANYTHING.

...Oh yeah, and I'm an avid fan of Law & Order.

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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 05:32 PM
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5. I know you're joking, but for crissakes give up the "unqualified" routine.
The woman is a brilliant, nationally prominent trial lawyer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Miers

Experience as a judge is not nearly as relevant to whether one is qualified to be an appeals court judge as whether one simply has a great legal mind.

And, yes, Texas lawyers are real. The bar exam is largely identical in most states.

Whatever she is, she isn't dumb.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 05:38 PM
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6. Now that's not true. I live in California, where there is a bar exam
It's a three day exam. California and New York have the toughest bar exams in the country. Everyone knows that the bar in Texas is a joke. It's also a joke in Oregon. I know a lot of people who can't pass the bar in CA (probably becuse they are Republcans and too dumb) who have gone to other states where the exams are very easy by comparison.
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 06:06 PM
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12. Well, genius, most states use the same exam. Texa, Oregon and NY all
require higher scores to pass than California. One reason California has a low pass rate is that it has exceptionally low standards as to who may sit for the bar exam. For the most recent exams, Oregon has a pass rate of 57%, and California had a pass rate of 48%. However, California does not require people to graduate from an ABA-approved law school before sitting for the bar, so all kinds of loonies with mail-order "law degrees" go there to try to get admitted.

Based on Harriet Miers' resume, I'd say she's probably pretty damned smart.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 12:35 AM
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20. Actually, Texas also has a three day bar exam and is considered harder
that most states' bar exams. I have several friends who have taken both the California and Texas bar exams and they say that they are comparable.

If you want a state with an easy bar exam, you have to consider Minnesota, Utah, and New Mexico (which have notoriously easier bar exams).
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 05:42 PM
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9. Didn't she say * was one of the most brilliant
people she had ever met, ok maybe she isn't dumb she just acts it.
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:09 PM
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18. Or she knows how to flatter her boss.
Attack her integrity if you want. Won't bother me a bit.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:00 AM
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26. I agree. To rise to partner in a prominent law firm is no mean feat.
It's distressing to me to speculate about why so many DUers dismiss her legal abilities.

Philosophically, there is certainly reason to question her, as there was with Roberts.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 05:40 PM
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8. I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
I could have been Chief Justice, but robes make me itch.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 05:49 PM
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10. Well they say she is a nice person - and that makes her qualified - so if
this is the standard - then yes - I'm as qualified as she is - maybe more. :)
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junkiebrewster Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 06:17 PM
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13. I'm far more qualified
I've seen every episode of Law and Order.
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Grillydad Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 06:44 PM
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14. Here's my Resume
I've practiced real law for 14 years.
I've run for judge.
Been appointed special prosecutor locally.
I'm not a half-baked uninformed neo-con hack who can't think my way out of a wet paper bag.

P.S. I could use the government health insurance for me and my family.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 06:48 PM
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15. Ms Harry's more qual'd than me....
I've wasted most of my life on a husband and children, so I don't have a clue :silly:
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 06:52 PM
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16. I watch Boston Legal and some of those other lawyer shows ...
... so I figure am at least as qualified as Harriet. :D
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:08 PM
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17. No, but I'm faaaaaar more qualified to be president than
the imposter in the white house. But then, who isn't?
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 12:24 AM
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19. So 18 people here think they are less qualified than Harriet Miers
Talk about low self-esteem.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 12:44 AM
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21. Probably because they don't have J.D.s
:eyes:

Being a partisan hack and being a decent lawyer aren't mutually exclusive, though you seem to think they are.

Why don't you think she's qualified? Lack of judging experience? Okay, so by that same token, wouldn't those of us DUers without judging experience be similarly unqualified? Yes? So why do people have low self esteem by admitting that their qualifications are the same as or less than Harriet Miers'?
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 12:54 PM
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28. She should have been disbarred years ago for her business practices.
Edited on Mon Oct-10-05 12:54 PM by genius
The woman is a crook who worked for crooks. She belongs in jail.
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Muddy Waters Guitar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 12:44 AM
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22. Since I haven't kissed Bush's ass or given legal advice
to big companies screwing over consumers, seeking out illegal tax shelters
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2005/10/miers_law_firm_.html
http://bluemassgroup.typepad.com/blue_mass_group/2005/10/tax_shelter_sle.html

or polluting the environment, as Harriet Miers has done amply, I guess in Bush's book that would make me less qualified than Miers as a nominee. Though in the real world where some modicum of competence is necessary for that post, I'd suspect that most cud-chewing farm animals would probably be more qualified than Miers as nominees for the post. At least Caligula named his horse as consul-- that would be a big improvement over what we currently have.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 06:58 AM
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23. No, I am honest and smart. She is the better repug choice. nt
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 08:41 AM
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24. No, I'm not.
But that's really not the question. I would never be picked for the Supreme Court. The real questions are: Is there anyone more qualified than her? I think the answer is unquestionably Yes. Is she qualified to sit on the Supreme Court? I think the answer is that no one really know; and that fact alone disqualifies her.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 08:54 AM
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25. The only qualification that matters is
believing in the basic tenets of the Constitution. Anyone who doesn't accept the Right to Privacy, or puts sharia law above Constitutional law, isn't qualified
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:18 AM
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27. Chimp should have gone with William Shatner instead
- He's now an accomplished attorney on Boston Legal. (And he watches FAUX News.)

- Several years of experience in law enforcement on TJ Hooker

- Over 20 years executive experience as Captain of the USS Enterprise.
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