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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:13 AM
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217,962 people voted in the Democratic NH primary--
in the General election Gore received 266,348 votes in NH. That means in the NH primary we had a turnout--in a primary--that was 82% of what our candidate got in the general election in the last presidential election. That is HUGE!!

This turnout is indicative that Bush is in real trouble.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:15 AM
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1. Add the several thousand write-ins in the GOP primary
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 10:17 AM by NewYorkerfromMass
where Kerry also came out as top Dem. :)

George W. Bush (i) GOP 50,866 85.5%
John Kerry(WI) Dem 1,349 2.3%
Howard Dean (WI) Dem 910 1.5%
Wesley Clark(WI) Dem 805 1.4%
John Edwards(WI) Dem 762 1.3%
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:32 AM
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9. 14% of Repubs voted against Bush !
and for Democrats! He's probably shakin like a dog shittin' a peach seed when he reads that.... :)
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:39 AM
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10. Getting 14% of your own party to say NO
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 10:40 AM by MrBenchley
when you're running unopposed with the largest war chest in history as a wartime president seems amazingly weak...

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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:07 AM
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13. Wonderful analogy.
:D
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:15 AM
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2. The Party is energized!
Those are incredible numbers.....Go Dems!
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:20 AM
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3. This is Great News
Buh bye Jr.
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:21 AM
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4. An amazing number
We are so charged. :)
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:25 AM
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5. That is terrific news - the Democrats are motivated.
Not only was the old record beaten, it was smashed. Increasing voter turnout is bad news for Bush Co.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:29 AM
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6. Absolutely!
Particularly considering the same thing happened in Iowa. Can't wait to see the turnouts next Tuesday. All we've ever needed was to get out the vote. I think the outrage over * is gonna do it! Not even computerized voting machine fraud can't stop the Dem stampede. And while people are voting for a Dem president, I sincerely hope they check the Dem Senate and House boxes.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:30 AM
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7. Thank you so much for the insight. That is wonderful news.
Watch the repuke claws come out like never before. And, at every turn, we must remind people of the reason for their attacks: they are scared sh*tless.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:31 AM
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8. GREAT NEWS. Bush is GONE in November.
They know it.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:49 AM
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11. Good news indeed; hope it truly is a portent of strong turnout in November
so we can throw the WRONG wing outta the West Wing!
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:57 AM
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12. If that trend continues...
and the Democratic field has unity when a nominee is chosen, then it is indeed a good sign historically.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:08 AM
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14. Could You Post A Link
please
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:10 AM
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15. Maybe
or maybe too much is being read into it. Its hard to know in states that go repub.
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:22 AM
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16. This is huge, and seems to be getting lost in the news
Everyone is all a-twitter over whether "their" candidate won or lost or what happened, not many are seeing this.

This is huge, it explains the unexpected results in the last two primaries, I suspect pollsters are vastly underestimating who will be "likely voters."

It explains what has happened to the "dean phenomenon." Yes, he energized the base, but something far bigger is happening, middle of the roaders are voting motivated primarily by an "anyone but Bush" feeling.

The last time New Hampshire turnout was this high, 1992, another president named Bush was run out of office, to be forever known as the "one term wimp." Looks like we may see the never-elected one term idiot joining him in infamy.

I do beleive this high turnout is a huge sign, that people who ordinarily never vote will be voting, and voting against Bush, in huge numbers in the general election. I think its fantastic. The single biggest demographic in american politics are the non-voters (the greens based their delusional Nader hopes on them), and it looks like they are going to be coming out and voting democratic this year.

A corollary to these observations, this is the converse of the situation where you have a popular incumbent president. In those cases, the opposition party votes in low numbers, and its only the true beleivers who come out, the far left and far right respectively. These few true beleivers then nominate someone at the extreme of their spectrume, a McGovern or Goldwater or Dukakis or Mondale, which just makes matters worse, and the election is a blowout.

I would love to have the time to do a statistical analysis of primary turnout versus election results against incumbent presidents, it might be interesting.

No offense to Dean, but he would be winning right now if Bush were popular. But Bush isn't popular, so there are many more people going to the polls than the usual hardcore party members, and all these "anyone but Bush" votes are resulting in what you see happening. I would bet Zogby's ridiculous "Dean surging" poll results came about because he did a bad job of deciding who were the "likely voters," and failed to take into account the anti-Bush animus that is increasing turnout.

But when people are unhappy with the incumbent, many more people vote in the primary, they choose someone with broader appeal simply because there is a broader spectrum of people showing up at the polls, and they go on to humiliate the loser president and make him a one termer.
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:26 AM
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17. For once, I hope the media
continues to ignore this one. I want the other side to keep their low expectations (yes, I realize they are smarter than we give them credit for, but not much!) while our base keeps getting energized!
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:30 AM
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18. By Any Measure - A Statement Against Bush

Also, it is important to note that the turnout was the highest dem primary turnout.

In 2000 - 148,000 turnout
In 1992 - 168,000 turnout

More dems and independents turned out period.

My family is in NH, they attended Kerry, Clark and Edwards events. Supporters of all the candidates were at these events. While people supported different candidates, they all talked to each other - and said ABB.
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cmf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:34 AM
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19. This is huge!
We cannot let voters get lulled or comforted by Bush, we need to keep them energized! As long as we can keep the momentum going into November - we will win this election!

:kick:
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 12:07 PM
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20. Well-deserved kick.

This is fabulous news.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 12:22 PM
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21. How many total votes did Bush get in the Rep primary?
What is the # ? I cant find it anywhere. Anyone got a link?
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