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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:54 PM
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Name *ONE* thing you are for and *ONE* thing you're against
Call this a reality check. Call this silliness. Call this a sense of the community. Call it anything you want.

Please post one thing you favor and thing you oppose. Try to keep things simple and succinct.

Ideally, you'll try not to repeat what another has already posted.

If you want to debate an issue, please start your own thread. That's not the purpose of this one. This is more like an open ended poll. I will not be debating anything here. Just posting and reading and learning.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:55 PM
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And I'll start .....
I am *FOR* a minimum standard of living for every US citizen.

The only thing of which I am completely intolerant is intolerance.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:55 PM
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1. For Freedom Against Facism.
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:56 PM
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2. For: Peace Against: Bush
Simple enough
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:58 PM
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3. Equal Rights - Tyranny
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:58 PM
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4. For national health care, against cannabis prohibition n/t
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:58 PM
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5. For protection of the environment. Against the Iraq war. n/t
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:59 PM
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6. I am for socialized health care and against corporate welfare
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 03:59 PM
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7. For bringing back the Fairness Doctrine.
Against turning back Roe v. Wade (and I'm a Christian). I don't want to go back to the coathanger days.
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:03 PM
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8. For the separation of church and state, against the use of torture. n/t
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:03 PM
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9. for gays being allowed in military - against misuse of military
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:04 PM
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10. i am for universal healthcare and i'm against the Iraq war
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:04 PM
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11. For: total freedom of speech; against: free speech zones
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:04 PM
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12. For paper federal ballots and against corporate 'person hood'
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HereComesTrouble Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:05 PM
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13. Easy!
I'm for the right to privacy and against illegal elections.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:08 PM
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14. Yes! Against RFID tags and the Patriot Act
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:11 PM
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15. Well, lets see...
FOR: An income and personal wealth cap.

AGAINST: Burning fossil fuels.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:13 PM
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16. For gun control.
Against all war.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:14 PM
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17. For: Laws and regulations for Oil/Gas Corporations, Against Tax Cuts...
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 04:14 PM by Up2Late
...and Tax breaks for the wealthy and Oil/Gas Corporations.

I could list at least a dozen more off the top of my head.
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drthais Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:16 PM
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18. FOR a woman's right to choose and AGAINST electronic voting machines
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Bjornsdotter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:17 PM
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19. Equal rights, censorship n/t
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:20 PM
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20. Equal Rights/Corporate Welfare
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:24 PM
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21. one thing I'm against: BushCo . . .
one thing I'm for: Impeaching BushCo . . . that is all . . .
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:27 PM
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22. For: Universal Healthcare Against: Corporatism
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:29 PM
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23. For: Dems who run strong, winning races and Against: Dems who don't
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 04:30 PM by OzarkDem
I'll worry about the issues when we have some power to do something about them.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:30 PM
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24. For: Progressive taxation. Against: Budget Deficits
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:31 PM
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25. I'm For National Health Care And
I'm against Corporate whores and all the money needed for elections!

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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:32 PM
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26. For: Macaroni and Cheese Against: Mustard n/t
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 06:05 PM
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32. ROFL
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 07:23 PM
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41. Hey, I can understand being for Mac N' Cheese, but AGAINST...
mustard??

What are you thinking?
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 04:58 PM
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27. Here goes.
For: Impeachment of Bush/Cheney and whoever else they can get.

Against: Divisive politics and appeasement in the Dem party.
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verse18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:04 PM
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28. I"m for:
Quality education for every child

Against: Policies that take rights away from American citizens.
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childslibrarian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:13 PM
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29. A woman's right to choose
Against--the Iraq War
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:17 PM
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30. For privacy rights / Against the merger of church & state. nt
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_Loki_ Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:54 PM
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31. For: INDIVIDUAL Freedom.
Against: The centralization of power in Washington.



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Smoke Screen Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 06:19 PM
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33. My favor/opposition
I oppose Bush's presidency.

I favor the idea of him stepping down.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 06:20 PM
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34. For: Telling the blunt, unvarnished truth about Bush's lies & crimes.
Against: Ignoring those lies & crimes, and pretending we agree with or can "work with" liars & criminals.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 06:34 PM
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35. For: Environmental protection. Against: Fascism n/t
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 06:36 PM
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36. For: compassion
Against: subverting democracy by lying and by refusing to listen to other opinions
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 06:42 PM
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37. For: The Bill of Rights, Against:
the government dictating to ladies' wombs, which shouldn't even be a law, that's between a woman and her doctor.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 07:06 PM
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38. For paper voting until evoting is proven by scientists to be fair
Against Martial Law, even if it is disguised as the authority to use the military in the event of a natural disaster or epidemic.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 07:14 PM
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39. For: Goodwill towards men. Against: Closed Mindedness
I think we could all (including me) practice a little more goodwill towards our fellow man. We could all be more friendly, more open, nicer. Open doors for little old ladies, let that car into traffic, etc.

I really hate people who cannot shift gears. Its one of the reasons I don't like Bush. I really dislike it when someone says, "I think _______and nothing anyone can say will change my mind." Strength of purpose is one thing, mental inflexibility is something else.
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 07:21 PM
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40. For: Legalize marijuana,..... Against: The Death Penalty and...

torture
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 07:26 PM
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42. You know what's cool?
I read through everybody's responses and I am FOR everything that everybody else is for and AGAINST everything everybody is against.

Accept that mustard thing. It makes me feel that sense of community you were talking about.

I wonder what Freeper's would be for and against and how different it would be from our stuff?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 07:46 PM
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43. Yup ... this was pretty informative.
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 07:46 PM by Husb2Sparkly
And it shows that, even with all the infighting that goes on here, we really *do* have more common ground than not.

I was *quite* as unanimous as you, but it is a small matter. Even the few points with which I may not agree, I cannot find any hard oppostion in myself.

On the real, core values, I am in complete agreement.

edit to add ..... yup, that mustard thing. I **like** mustard!
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:18 PM
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48. Let me put it this way..
I could live with all of the 'For' stuff even if there were some things that don't really get me excited.

And I didn't like any of the 'Against' stuff, even if some of it doesn't make me go nuts.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:27 PM
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63. That is interesting
It reflects the complete lack of diversity that is DU.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:04 PM
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44. I am for...
taking our country BACK from the freaks who have defiled it!

I am against illegal wars and the murdering of innocent people!
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:10 PM
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45. For: Personal Liberty, Against: The Death Penalty
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AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:14 PM
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46. For Livable wages
against corporate personhood - the idea that corporations will have more rights than my daughter (if the fascist right has their way) is appalling.
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:15 PM
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47. For: religious tolerance. Against: religion in my government.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:19 PM
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49. For Fed, oversite of Corporations., and National Health Care.
Against always throwing money at everything as the solution!
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mbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:29 PM
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50. For National Health Care - against HSA's
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FtWayneBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:31 PM
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51. for: Endangered Species Act. agin: "Healthy" Forests Act
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:34 PM
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52. Election reform ..... crony politics
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:53 PM
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53. For And Against
For national health care - against the Iraq war.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:14 PM
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54. I'm for de-centralization of gov't and against the religious right
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:16 PM
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55. For Total Separation of Church and State
Against Fascism
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FightinNewDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:18 PM
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56. Opportunity/Elitism
For opportunity.
Against elitism, in all its forms.
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StopRoy Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:30 PM
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57. For Social Security and Against Plutocracy
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:10 PM
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58. Against: Bloated deficits. For: Efficient, effective government. nt
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:17 PM
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59. I favor Economic Fairness for ALL and Oppose Fascism...
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 12:18 PM by BlueCaliDem04
...from our ridiculously LOW "minimum hourly wage" (aka slave wages!) to CEOs making 600, 700, up to 1000 times MORE annually than their average employee.

Poverty is the root of all crimes, and exuberant corporate heads' salaries and packages, the root of fascism as they ALL vote for corporate friendly Republicans and Democrats.

Take away their ridiculous salaries and bonus packages (they only spend it on helping fund MORE Repubs into government anyhow) and America can finally begin to become the promising democracy it can be.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:22 PM
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60. I'm for war criminal charges against the entire Bush administration
I'm against the death penalty in favor of life imprisonment in Askaban for the entire Bush administration.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 01:20 PM
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61. For: Free chips & salsa in Tex Mex restaurants
Against: Bunker-busting nukes
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:23 PM
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62. For: assisted suicide Against: Silly election fraud theories.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:42 PM
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64. For stem cell research; against teaching intelligent design
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:19 PM
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65. For: reproductive choice. Against: corporate welfare. eom
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 03:26 PM
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66. For: full equality regardless of sexual orientation. Against: Iraq War
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Francine Frensky Donating Member (870 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 04:58 PM
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67. For Capitalism with safety nets; against Cronyism
Capitalism with government safety nets (protect the elderly, the poor, the environment, the arts, the handicapped...all the economic losers that have great value), the system we've had in America since FDR, has been a pretty awesome system, not perfect, but I think looking around the world you would have to say it's the best anyone has come up with.

What I hate is that bush is a crony-ist, NOT a capitalist, even though he has his base fooled. Everything he does is all about protecting himself and rewarding those who are loyal. It's a good-ol-boy network, a power pyramid of sycophants with more loyalty to bush than to the US. He ddoesn't do

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