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Ruffhowse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:35 AM
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Miers will be a Scalia clone, count on it!
Look, Bush knows Miers, has worked closely with her for over 10 years. He knows she is a follower, not a leader, that she is a loyal, extremely devoted minion (just the fact that she is quoted as saying he is the most brilliant man she has ever met proves that). Bush knows Miers will do his bidding and has even alluded to this fact in statements made over the last couple days. What Bush wants is another Scalia on the Supreme Court, so Miers' mission is to vote exactly like Scalia on all issues, much like Clarence Thomas does already. She won't need to do the heavy lifting of writing her own opinions on cases. All she'll have to do is submit a four word summary--"Ditto, what Scalia said". This is the Justice we will get if Miers is confirmed, another Scalia. Don't be lulled into a false sense of complacency thinking that she's a nice grandmotherly old lady and might be somewhat moderate. She will obey her master George Bush and vote HARD CORE conservative. At least with another candidate, we might get someone with a more independent mind who will moderate over the years as have other Justices.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:37 AM
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1. Except Scalia isn't as much a tool of the Bushes.
This lady is a Bush family insider all the way, like James Baker.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:43 AM
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2. She will do "a heck of a job".
We can be sure of that. George's cronyism at it's worst, or should we say best? One can never underestimate this man's predictability.

God save us all from the grievous limits of our humanity.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:05 AM
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9. You're right....She probably will do "a heck of a job"
Actually, thats what I'm afraid of...
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:37 AM
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13. They will aim us straight for hell, if they can.
Being absolutely clueless, they, of course, have no ...idea.

Give me patience. This, too, must pass. My grandmother used to say that, the must pass part.

God, I hope so. I am losing patience.

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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:41 AM
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15. Thee more years is going to seem like thirty....and thats assuming we can
win in 2008. I'm tired, but I'm used to being disappointed. I've been a Democrat since 1973 and we've been largely out of power for 20 of the last 32 years. We've only had a majority in congress and held the White House for 6 of the last 32 years (and when we did control them both, our guys botched it so badly, the voters took it away fromus).
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:53 AM
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20. I don't believe in the parties so much. They can all be corrupted.
Sometimes I think more parties would be better. It could dilute the corruption. European countries seem to do this better. Progressive/populist values, centering on the individual, on individual rights, are a better fit for the Democrats, but the current climate, which we will forever fight, run against that. Special interests, however that is defined, will forever be a force against the individual. Argh...

So, we soldier on. :hug:
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 02:01 AM
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22. But look at Italy....50 or so governments since 1945....
I'm not wedded to the two party system but apparently America is.

And, yes, we do soldier on. Whats the alternative?

As to parties, I acknowledge the faults of the Democratic party, but I come form the lower middle-class. My dad was a 10th grade drop-out truck driver and my mom (who has a high school degree at least) worked horrible jobs for chump change to feed her 5 children. Republicans never did a damn thing to help her or her kids but Democrats did. There were weeks when the only groceries she had were government commodities (a precursor of food stamps-they gave you actual bulk food instead of stamps) and she could feed all of us royally with flour, water, potatoes and a can of english peas. We had no idea how desperately poor we were.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 02:21 AM
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24. I come from Roosevelt Democrats.
I like those guys. And, for the most part, the Democrats stand up for the average guys, the working classes and the poor. Recently, with the DLC, things have become clouded. That is my problem. And that is why I really like Howard Dean, John Edwards and Wesley Clark. The founding fathers ( I really don't like that term) understood the danger of parties, of how special interests could control them, and I am sensitive to that. Otherwise, I support the Democrats wholeheartedly. They are all we have, actually. And, for the most part, they mean well.

And, we were hungry too, at times. And in the 60's there was a lot of hidden hunger and desperation, there still is and it is growing. The Democrats did lot to address that. Some of it was imperfect, but the Republicans were like a stone, drag, bump, fall back.... However, some of our better legislation was passed with Republican help. We need to get back to that. Two polarized parties are killing us. One or two others might ameliorate that. That's just what I'm saying. Changing how we vote would help, as well.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:45 AM
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3. Ya know, I dare those bastards to overturn Roe V. Wade
Two-thirds of Americans want to keep it intact. How dare the fundies try to impose their narrow-minded views on the rest of America? I dare them to try.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:46 AM
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4. George Bush...
...is a shitty judge of character. When he says he "knows her heart, knows her character", it means nothing to me. Brownie, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Condi, Meiers, all of them, not worth a bucket of spit.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:47 AM
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5. Well, a hard-core bushbot, anyways
But I have my doubts about anyone who so blindly follows ANY human being to the point where they see no faults at all.

This is approaching cult-like control and conformity.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:48 AM
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6. She's a born again Christian who thinks W is brilliant
and who has never borne children or been married. How does W collect all these groupies?
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radiofreesrini Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:56 AM
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7. she's a fundamentalist creep!
check out this new york times article on her!

In Midcareer, a Turn to Faith to Fill a Void

that void, of course, being her dessicated and atrophied soul! PUPPETS HAVE VOIDS TOO!

some choice quotes:

"But as important as her professional trajectory, friends and family of Ms. Miers say, is the influence of religion on her approach to issues of political and legal importance. After joining Valley View Christian Church, she began teaching a Sunday night class for first, second and third graders at the church, called Whirlybirds."

"'Yes, she goes to a pro-life church," Justice Hecht said, adding, "I know Harriet is, too." The two attended "two or three" anti-abortion fund-raising dinners in the early 1990's, he said, but added that she had not otherwise been active in the anti-abortion movement. "You can be just as pro-life as the day is long and can decide the Constitution requires Roe" to be upheld, he said." ("he" being "Justice Nathan L. Hecht" is known as one of the most conservative members of the Republican-dominated Texas Supreme Court, the one who converted her from roman catholicism and probably her lover according to the article)

GAK! i own http://www.StickerNation.com and i want to print stickers to stop this crazy fundie from her obvious agenda of imprisoning women who get abortions!!!!! please help!!!!

-radio free srini
http://www.radiofreesrini.com



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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:04 AM
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8. Does she plan on stealing the babies from the poor mothers
to give to her rich white friends under the guise of caring for children? Taking babies of poor mothers to give to the rich doesn't exactly enhance our image of caring for our most needy.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:27 AM
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10. You are on the money, IMHO
I'd be more than happy for her to prove us both wrong. But I'm sure she wont. Damn.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:33 AM
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11. Wrong, she will be a Thomas a clone
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 01:38 AM by tritsofme
Scalia is actually extremely intelligent and knows his shit inside and out.

Thomas just does whatever Scalia tells him to, and is a first class brown-noser.

There's enough room for both of their noses in Scalia's ass.

Neither Miers nor Thomas is or was qualified.

It'll be interesting to see what happens when Scalia is gone and Miers and Thomas have to fend for themselves.

edit*
After reading your post we pretty much said the same thing...
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:41 AM
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14. Scalia's opinions are highly questioned as reasonable
He interprets them with a right wing bias. How anyone can call them intelligent is beyond me. At least Thomas knows he was only a token of the GOP. He's certainly not known as a scholar and can't progect that in his writings. He indeed will be seen as only a token by yet another GOP,
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:47 AM
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17. I didn't say he was reasonable
But I consider him to be extremely intelligent.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:36 AM
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12. Don't believe everything people say "in front" of the cameras, I
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 01:38 AM by ladylibertee
have a feeling, as do many other Liberals, that we are in for a pleasant surprise.Did you know that it was mentioned tonight on Carl Tuckers program,that it is known that Miers and Bush share the same conservative views? While attempting to distance Bush from the Republican Party, Tucker questioned whether or not Bush was a real conservative noting that he only talked about overturning ROE once and said that while he is pro-life, he wouldn't "push" it.When asked his views on Roe V Wade, during yesterday's press conference, HE DID NOT ANSWER!

Wake the Fuck up people! :rant:
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:45 AM
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16. I'm awake. And, I am most irritated.
Actually verging on...extreme resolution. I really don't now how to describe it. I am most tired of this pussyfooting, wink, wink way of communicating. It's stupid. George is a fool. He can't lead. He is a weak ne'er do well. And evil people have put him in place to what, ruin the world? It is beginning to look like it.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:52 AM
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19. I am in total agreement with you on that.The core of my argument is that
our Party may be jumping the gun a little on declaring utter defeat on Roe.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:50 AM
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18. If W tries to overturn Wade
He will be toast and the rest of his entourage will be swept out as garbage with him as they should be.

You note the sneaky cluckers, to the person, hasn't had the guts to say they want the government to take control of the woman's body and deny her the right to control her own body? I suggest we question them all on this. Why they think an American woman doesn't have the right to determine her productive rights is beyond me. I'm just waiting for one of W's rads to be asked whether the woman or government has control of the woman's body when it comes to abortion or forced delivery.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:57 AM
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21. If they can make you carry a baby, they can make you abort.
That, for me, is the crux of the matter. Viability...that is another issue. Women have to be smart about this.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 02:03 AM
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23. I would love to have that question answered myself.The truth of
the matter is,we may not hear anything like that anytime soon.Then again,we may.As we watch the White House "drown" and listen as the Conservatives throw living conniption fits,we may,if we pay close attention,"pick up" on some things that we would never have the opportunity to hear or read if things were going smoothly.I guess I can compare it to say,you had two enemies at your job.All of a sudden,all this drama comes down, and they try to cover their asses, by attacking each other.In the process,secrets and agendas,and lies come pouring out and you find out one of your enemies was really just "pretending" to be your enemy to get in good with someone else.Does this make sense to you? This is what the White House is facing right now.relax,enjoy the show.:popcorn:
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