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[Egnever]

Senator Kerry Locks Constituents Out of His Office
PRESS ADVISORY
October 11, 2002

A contingent of western Massachusetts veterans and educators have been attempting to visit Senator Kerry's office since Wednesday's announcement that he now supports the war resolution. But repeated attempts on Wednesday and Thursday to get into the senator's Springfield office have yielded a curious response: A locked door and an aid telling them that they are not welcome in the Senator's office. Mike Vito, Senator Kerry's Co-State Director was willing to meet with constituents at length, but not at the office.

The group first encountered Senator Kerry's locked door at 4:15 on Wednesday afternoon, just hours after they heard the Senator's announcement. Previously, Kerry had repeatedly said that he opposed the White House resolution. Aids in his office, confirm that calls from constituents were overwhelmingly opposed to the war. Why then, the sudden change of heart? And why won't the senator even face his constituents to explain himself?

The group spent most of Thursday sitting on the floor outside of the Senator's locked office. Through the glass door emblazoned with the US Senate seal, they could see empty chairs in the Senator's waiting room, while his staff conducted business as usual behind locked doors.

Remind you of anyone?

http://traprockpeace.org/kerrypressadvisory.html

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

1. Press advisory from whom? Link?

[Egnever]

3. will put link in thread

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

9. OK

His staffer did say he would meet with them..he just didn't let them do a sit in in his office.

I wasn't pleased with the war vote. What no one has proven to me is that the lack of a war vote would have meant NO WAR. It wouldn't have.

[Egnever]

12. Hmmm

So you prefer to just give up the fight because you think it will make no difference?

I think thats exactly Kerry's atitude also and is why I think he is a horrible choice for president.

I think his get over it comments go right in line with that.

It may or may not have meant there would have been a war anyway. Thanks to Kerry and many others like him we will never know will we?

[blm]

28. Biden-Lugar wouldn't have stopped the war.

You don't mind Dean's support for that.

[sangh0]

31. "Give up the fight"??? What are you talking about??

How would voting against IWR be "continuing the fight" when even you admit it wouldn't have stopped the invasion?

Since when are votes which do not achieve your goals considered a fight?

[drfemoe]

34. I'm an Independent..

but at this point in our country's history, we have TWO major Parties. That could change at some future point, and imo is getting more likely every election cycle. It's already happening in many localities.

I was depending on the DEMOCRATS to stand up to *B* and at least try to stay his hand against rushing head long into questionable military action. Daschle held out for a few weeks. A snip of hope, gone in the end. Even if they *lost* the vote, at least the People's Voices would have been heard.

Most Americans don't see a difference between the Parties. They don't believe they can do anything to influence "Washington". That's exactly how MANY politicians prefer the system. They don't want to have to deal with the *American People*'s agenda. Locking them out of the office is a strong visual to the reality that OUR voices don't matter until it's time to vote. Then special interests open their checkbooks, and keep the cycle going.

Some who have dropped out after being locked out or ignored so many times are not willing to continue down this path. The young people of the country haven't had the experiences some of us older folks have had when trying to influence actions that affect our very LIFES. They still have hopes and dreams, and lots more energy.

Are we going to go to the back of the bus, sit down and shut up? Or take a seat behind the driver to ensure we arrive at the destination of our OWN choosing?

[lcordero]

2. link please, link please, link please

[oasis]

4. "Remind you of anyone?" Actually no. Who'd you have in mind?

[Democat]

5. Let the wild attacks from the left and right begin

Actually, they already began some time ago.

Some people on both sides would like to see Bush for another 4 years, apparently.

Edit: I just noticed this is from 2002. Why bother posting it?

[Egnever]

6. Not me

I just dont want kerry.

Give me Dean/clark/Edwards and I will be happy.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

11. Why?

Edwards voted yes on the war, Dean didn't have to vote and did the same things to environmentalists in Vermont, and Clark has no proven record as a Dem (be that as it may...I could tolerate all pf them based on what I've heard) but if your biggest concern is that Kerry didn't let people CAMP in his office (which was more likely than not their intent) then what does this prove?

[Egnever]

13. What did Dean do to environmentalists in vermont?

Are your refering to the fact that Vermont ranks in the top 6 states in the nation in balancing environmental and working issues under Dean?

[isbister]

17. Dean's Smoke Screens

Howard Dean often talks tough about environmental protection and renewable energy expansion. But his gubernatorial record stands in glaring opposition to his rhetoical posture. In fact during five campaigns for governor in Vermont, the mainstream environmental group Sierra Club, never once endorsed his candidacy.

Conservation Law Foundation lawyer Chris Kilian opined in a September 2000 Rutland Herald editorial, "The privilege to earn a profit in Vermont does not automatically come, as Dean apparently believes, with a free pass to pollute our waters, despoil our natural resources or destroy our communities." Dean said in an interview last year, "In Vermont, I was pretty much in the middle--the business community on one side, the environmental community on the other."

When California's energy crisis peaked, Howard Dean was spurring discussion about building a possible coal-fired plant in Vermont. Environmentalists were more than outraged. Although Dean did require car dealerships to sell a certain number of electric cars per year, he was no savior in Vermont.

"The resulting hue and cry," Jonathan Lesser wrote an article in the Burlington Free Press following the incident, "was so strident that he might as well have proposed a state holiday celebrating child molesters. "

http://www.counterpunch.org/frank01272004.html

[Egnever]

20. Media propaganda

*** Seven states rank in the top 15 for both economic and
environmental health. Vermont, Rhode Island and Minnesota
rank in the top six on both lists. Other "top performers"
with high marks on both scales are Colorado, Maryland,
Maine, and Wisconsin.


http://csf.colorado.edu/envtecsoc/2000/msg00539.html

And a link to the pdf of the full report

http://greenplans.rri.org/resources/pubs/sos_appendices.html

nice hit piece though just the same

[joshcryer]

21. Good link.

Thanks

[Egnever]

23. It does sort of put things in perspective doesnt it?

Sure he had his arguments with the environmentalists in Vermont but in the end the state was in great shape both environmentaly and economically.

Something the nation should also be striving for IMHO.

[AnnitaR]

7. Wild attack?

This appears to be a credible report of what happened during the vote on the IWR.

I would though like to see more accounts of this incident.

[Democat]

8. Digging up year old dirt on the night he wins isn't an attack?

Once again we do the work of the Republicans by attacking our own on a night that should be a great night for Kerry and his supporters.

Kerry is not my first choice, but I'm not going to bash him after he and his supporters worked their way to victory today.

At least the poster could give Kerry and his supporters a few hours to celebrate before starting to bash again.

[Egnever]

10. Sorry but from my vantage point

The democratic party is about to make the worst mistake it could possibly make.

And I am not going to sit for one second and let it hapen. If he gets the nod I will vote for him but I truely believe he will be a disaster as a president.

[AnnitaR]

14. This is the facts about something that happened, not an attack.

Posting untrue information is an attack, digging up dirt or whatever.

As voters we need to know as much about the candidate that is asking us to trust him with the Presidency.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

16. It's really pretty hard to imagine a plausible scenario in which Dean wins

Doesn't he have to win a few elections next week in order to remain viable? If Kerry wins MO, AZ, DE, and especially if he gets SC it will be over.

So it is natural that some frustration is gonna be expressed right now.

[AntiCoup2K4]

15. Actually it does remind me of someone, but probably not who you think...

..I had a similar experience when I was the local chair of the Young Democrats in 1996. Linda Smith (Freeper bitch) was the Congresscritter for the district at the time. The YD's were on a bus tour of the district with her opponent, Brian Baird (who lost the 96 election by about 700 votes, but took the seat in 98).

We arrived at Linda's office in Vancouver and were promptly told by her staff that we "had no right to be there". Of course, I reminded them that the office belonged to the people of the Third District, but that didn't seem to matter to the little Freepette behind the desk.

I saw a woman sneaking out the back stairs that looked to be about the same size as our esteemed Congresswoman. Chickenshit coward. At least Patty Murray kicked her ass in the Senate race.

[Spirochete]

19. I think I remember something about that

in the Columbian at the time. I voted for Baird, and he had it won - till they started counting the absentee ballots....

[isbister]

18. Senator Kerry Locks Constituents Out of His Office

But repeated attempts on Wednesday and Thursday to get into the senator's Springfield office have yielded a curious response: A locked door and an aid telling them that they are not welcome in the Senator's office. Mike Vito, Senator Kerry's Co-State Director was willing to meet with constituents at length, but not at the office.

The title tells us the Senator locked these folks out of the Springfield office but yet, there is no indication that the Senator was even in Springfield that day. Curious. Was the Senator there in his Western Massachusetts office that day? If not, was he aware that these people were? Was the Senator even in Massachusetts that day or was he in Washington? If he was in Washington, wouldn't it be physically impossible for him to lock a door in Springfield?

[buckeye1]

22. Kerry is up.

How many committed votes has he now? Not many. 1400 needed and he has um,30? Its a long way to go JFK. Wow Dean has even less. Uncommitted delegates don't count.
Old stuff.

Henry Ford financed a "peace liner"
during World War I,it didn't work.
Pacifists have never prevented a war. If they did,how would they live.
Forgot the link:


http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=henry+ford+peace+liner

[bicentennial_baby]

24. I am a member of Traprock

An amazing organization... As a resident of Western MA, I share their disappointment with Senaotr Kerry. :thumbsdown:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. Yet another reason not to vote for Kerry.

Those folks who wanted to see him were undoubtedly "too liberal" for the "liberal" senator.

[RetroLounge]

26. Kick

:kick:

[killbotfactory]

27. Everyone knew what the IWR would mean

Kerry pussed out.

[blm]

29. Everyone knew what the Biden-Lugar resolution would mean. Same as IWR.

But noone pases judgment on Dean for his support of that, do they?

[Monte Carlo]

30. Isn't this just a re-hash of an old, mature issue?

A bitter-someone trying to paint a fellow Democrat unnecessarily as an authoritarian?

P.S.: The anti-war movement presently in this country is totally impotent. It knows how to moralize, how to lecture, and how to protest, but it doesn't know a damned thing about how to organize, motivate the masses, or ACT. Marches might have worked in the 60's, but they are routine these days. No one pays attention any more; new tactics are needed.

[sangh0]

32. Rehashing old issues

and moralizing, lecturing and protesting is all they know

[Hoppin_Mad]

33. Very troubling - but not surprising -nt-

[Feanorcurufinwe]

35. Kerry's attitude as frontrunner:

If two year old press releases are as bad as the attacks can get, this will be easy... but Kerry is ready for a whole lot worse than that.

[quaker bill]

36. Yes it does

His temporary address in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.