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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:27 AM
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97% in and Edwards has closed to 700 votes of Clark!
This one is going down to the wire. The tension is pretty real. I think I might wake up tomorrow to see a different 3rd place finisher from when I go to bed. Wow, who knows what's going to happen there!

CNN

97%
Clark- 26,554

Edwards- 25,849
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:30 AM
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1. Yes it's going to be close
strike another victory for the establishment if Edwards passes Clark. I'm hoping Clark will hold on so we can stay steady.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:33 AM
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3. That's Stupid
Why would a 4 yr senator be more establishment than a NATO General? I think this term is being way overused.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:13 AM
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12. I agree. Our country is in a mess both abroad and
at home. Edwards is a trial lawyer that has spent his life selling talking to juries and four years in the senate. Have these people lost their minds?
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:35 AM
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14. Edwards has spent his life fighting for people who have been
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 07:48 AM by spooky3
harmed by incompetent or unethical physicians, hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, etc. This is his 6th year in the Senate.

It makes absolutely no sense to me to hear people who support Clark or Dean criticize Edwards' experience as irrelevant, when exactly the same charge can be leveled at Clark, who has NO experience as an elected official at any level, as well as no experience campaigning (and thus may have much more difficulty in a GE against the Rove machine). Experience as a general who commands is not the same as experience in government, which requires negotiation and compromise. In the case of Dean, he does have leadership of a state, but no experience in Washington. I do not believe any of our candidates should be disqualified on the basis of his experience, because all bring important experience to the table.

Bush has more relevant experience than ANY of our candidates--3 years as pResident. Does this make him more qualified?

As for the "establishment" charge, I really don't get this one either. I don't think voters care much about this.

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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:33 AM
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2. They both win by default because it's so close
They will both benefit from their showings.
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:34 AM
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4. It will be reported as a tie.
...They will both have 12% so people will look at it as a tie.
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:52 AM
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5. not a tie if one wins
sounds like they don't want to get Clark's name out-
They know a 4 star General can SMOKE Bush any day!!
Hands down no question, end of story --

This is NOT in the coropate media's interest and I am really dissapointed if they don't give a wnner "his"name as THIRD place winner!!

Watch out folks--
Kerry vs Bush is good for the corporations
Clark vs Bush is terrifying for the corporations!!

realizing that tv/radio/media is BIGGG corporate money--BIG BIG BIG
They are in it for themselves.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:00 AM
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7. Yeah, no kidding
Didn't shrub and Gore really tie in FL? Now look what we have!!
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elsiesummers Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 01:57 AM
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6. I think it is a tie
But on Hardball (still live now!) they are reporting Edwards as in 4th.

They are basically saying that since neither one got 15% they are both losers but alive.

I find this dissappointing since Edwards is my favorite and Clark my second choice.
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buckeye1 Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:31 AM
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8. Neither will get delegates.
There are of course 22 up for grabs. Big deal. There was a time when NH mattered because there was a long stretch before the next primaries. Next week will be much more important. And much more delegates at stake.
60 decided between Keary and Dean? I am not impressed. Show me some more.
Still undecided. Thats why we have a race.
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:47 AM
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9. According to CNN they get delegates. Not that they're infallible.
Candidate Vote % NH Del Total Delegates
Kerry 39% 13 94
Dean 26% 9 113
Clark 12% 0 30
Edwards 12% 0 36
Lieberman 9% 0 25
Kucinich 2% 0 2
Sharpton 0% 0 4
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elsiesummers Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 02:52 AM
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10. The second column
Kerry 13, Dean 9,

That's the NH delegate count, I think.

The other delegate counts must relate either to Iowa or to Super delegates that have promised themselves (but just guessing and don't have the details). www.thegreenpapers.com
seems to have more details on how the delegate counts work.
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overground1 Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:14 AM
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13. Edwards and Clark both have 0 for NH - the last number is total, including
pledged "super delegates". Clark's 30 comes from those. There are 802 total. These are party insiders and elected officials who can vote for anyone they want at the convention.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:10 AM
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11. I think someone here said that the delegates elected in the primary
can vote for different candidates at the county level. So Lieberman and Kucinich's delegates can vote for Clark or Edwards and put them over the 15% threshold, but I'm not sure if that's even true.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 07:39 AM
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15. Crossing my fingers for Edwards
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:38 AM
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16. I predicted a Clark/Edwards tie on the prediction..
thread last week. But, I am happy that Clark did actually beat Edwards, if only by a small margin.
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