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isbister Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 11:33 PM
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Zogby wasn't so nutty after-all
Really only missed badly on Clark but within the MOE

Zogby.............95% reporting

Kerry 37 ............Kerry 39
Dean 24.............Dean 25
Edwards 12.........Edwards 12
Clark 9...............Clark 13
Lieberman 9........Lieberman 9
Kucinich 3...........Kucinich 1
Sharpton 0.........Sharpton 0










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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 11:34 PM
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1. yes, he did MUCH better this time--so did all the other pollsters
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Monument Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 11:35 PM
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2. Zogby also clearly showd Kerry's gain in momentum leading to Iowa victory
although obviously he didn't poll the margin of victory, obviously he was tracking Kerry's connection with the people.

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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 11:41 PM
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3. Zogby stunk on candidates 3-5
Dropping Clark into a ties with Lieberman was RIDICULOUS!!!!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 11:52 PM
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4. The margin of error is always gonna be greater with smaller preference grp
nt
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 11:57 PM
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5. Clark's drop was intentional with Zogby
he had to toy with his own results to put Clark in a tie with Lieberman.
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Turkw Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 12:15 AM
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7. Zogby was on the tv today spinning against Clark.
I really do not like or trust Zogby
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 12:10 AM
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6. Zogby vs ARG
I want to compare Zog's accuracy against ARG. From my experience with market research, I had a stronger belief in what ARG was reporting than what I saw coming out of Zogby. As it turns out, Zogby was closer on Kerry, Lieberman, and Edwards while ARG got it right on Clark and Dean.

. . . . N.H. . .ARG . Zogby
Kerry . 38.6 . . 35 . . 37
Dean. . 25.9 . . 25 . . 24
Clark . 12.5 . . 13. . . 9
Edwds . 12.0 . . 15 . . 12
Liebrm . 8.7. . . 6. . . 9

Error . ARG. . Zogby
Kerry . 3.6 . . 1.6
Dean. . 0.9 . . 1.9
Clark . 0.5 . . 3.5
Edwds . 3.0 . . -0-
Liebrm. 2.7 . . 0.3

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 12:20 AM
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8. I thought that Zogby put Kerry and Dean at a tie
But CNN got it right

From today's WSJ:

Zogby
Kerry...... 31%
Dean....... 29%
Clark...... 13%
Edwards.... 12%
Lieberman... 9%

American Reasearch Group

Kerry...... 38%
Dean....... 20%
Clark...... 15%
Edwards.... 16%
Lieberman... 5%

CNN/Gallup/USA

Kerry...... 36%
Dean....... 25%
Clark...... 10%
Edwards.... 10%
Lieberman... 6%

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:05 AM
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9. I always trusted Zogby's numbers. He has a very..
credible track record that can't be denied.
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Phelan Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:23 AM
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12. yeah that being a rightwing pollster always makes me feel warm inside nt
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Indiana Democrat Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:07 AM
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10. Of course he wasn't.
But don't tell that to the propaganda harpies.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 09:20 AM
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11. No Props For Zogby....
He had it a three point race early Monday when eberybody else had it a double digit race...


He only changed his numbers on his final poll to save his credibility....


He was more interested in pushing the meme that this was a close race than reporting the actual results....
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:43 AM
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13. exactly...zogby did a last minute about face
what a joke to praise him
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