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eyeswideopened Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:07 PM
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Kerry scares me
I don't know how he is winning. I guess he's better than no candidate but I hope Gephart gives his support to Dean. I still would like to see a Dean/Clark ticket.
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shooga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:09 PM
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1. skulldukkery
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:11 PM
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3. True, Bonesmen stand by their people
I can't wait until Nov when we get to choose between the Bonesman on the Left and the Bonesman on the Right. I'll vote for some one else, thank you.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:21 PM
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12. Bye-bye
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:11 PM
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2. A lot of dirty tricks have been aimed at Dean
And Dean took a beating in the press after Iowa.
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:17 PM
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9. Kerry SAILED through the media
They know Bush is weak, and want business/finance as usual in the likely event he is voted out of office.

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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:39 PM
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17. I think you're right
And I don't like it.
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:12 PM
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4. I can't really see Gep getting behind Kerry or Dean
I can't see Gep getting behind a freetrader. I think that he would lean more towards Edwards since he is more of a fairtrader/pro-little guy type.
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EllieDem Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:17 PM
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8. Oh puhleeeeze
I'm having to say this a lot to the Clark & Dean people tonight. Dean is Dean's own worst enemy. He's made huge gaffes ALL BY HIMSELF and Kerry has sat back and called him on all of them.

"Governor Dean you said that you couldn't pass judgment on Bin Laden's guilt ........what WERE you thinking??" (John Kerry)
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:39 PM
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18. Thinking?
In general, I do not like politicians. I refuse to even give them an inch because they have reputations for abusing anything and everything.

I'm not going to approve of Kerry taking away Bin Laden's rights, the same way that I don't approve of Bush taking away the rights of POWs. Once I give Kerry license to take away Bin Laden's rights then I am giving him the opportunity to take away my rights.

I want to see Bin Laden get a fair trial and that is that.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:14 PM
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5. That's stating it mildly....
If Kerry becomes the final dem candidate...and beats shrub...I have
a BAD feeling that things won't change one bit...
But then again, we're all assuming the the presidential "elections"
won't be rigged... :eyes:
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:15 PM
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6. The Media scared people about Dean/ Most agreed more with Dean, But
voted Kerry because they thought he had a better chance of beating Bush.

THAT will not happen in other states.

I think Dean will do better than Kerry everwhere else or at least a lot of other places.

Southerners will not vote for Kerry. They will for Dean.

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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:15 PM
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7. Exactly!
How can he EVER challenge * on anything? Hell he voted for everything * wanted - now what will he say? Oh....I was mislead...oh...I didn't realize...blah blah. Can you imagine in a debate? How can he challenge anything * has done when he was totally complict in everything.

What is Wrong with people? Don't they see this coming?
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LostInTheMaise Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:20 PM
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10. DNC trickery against a real Democrat
Dean is a victim to the DNC powers that be. I am doing all I can to keep him alive in the primary. I'm broke but it was well spent.

I trust Howard and Judy and I don't trust Kerry and his money broker.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:45 PM
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20. Dean is a corporatist and a deregulator. Kerry is a REAL environmentalist
with the best record of all the candidates.

I think you need to learn more about them both. You don't get a highest rating from environmentalists by being a corporatist. Dean, however, never even got the Sierra Club endorsement for ANY of his elections, because of his pro big business record.

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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:21 PM
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11. He scares the GOP
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:24 PM
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13. If only that were true.
Alas, reality must be faced.
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:28 PM
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14. Kerry
Ultimately, he's been supportive of every anti-worker and anti-American initiative Dubya's sponsored. Why should anyone support him?
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:37 PM
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16. GOP will say he's more liberal than Ted Kennedy
which is it? Flaming Mass liberal or corporatist elitist?
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:41 PM
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19. They'll say it and it will stick -- because it's true
Kerry's voting record in the Senate IS more liberal than Ted Kennedy's. You can't hide from the facts.

Sure, Kerry's tall. He's got presidential hair. He's a Skull and Bones man. He fought in Vietnam. But he's still a Massachusetts liberal. That alone will wipe him out in the South.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:48 PM
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21. But he said he'll get a southerner for VP
And that will assure victory!
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:50 PM
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22. I guess my point is
lots of people here (they tend to be Dean supporters)say he's to far to the right. In fact he has a very progressive record while Dean had a rep as a moderate Gov in VT. Menwhile the GOP will be calling him a radical lefty. I guess you can't win...
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DrZhivago Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:34 PM
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15. anyone but bush
even if is * lite.

Dean carried himself as a liberal even though he's not. As a matter of fact Kerry is more of a democrat than Dean because like all the other democrats he's been chickenshit to speak out in the past and has let the GOP grow to the fascist instution it has become. Dean only caught wind, the winds of change if you will, and campaigned accordingly.

We still gotta keep it together and remember that not only do we have to remove * and his cronies out of office, we have to think of the future of this countr... Ahhh fuck it I'm voting for Bush






























syke!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 09:51 PM
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23. Kerry Doesn't Scare Me
What does scare me is the thought that the DNC/DLC's "chosen one" is going to totally lose his bearings if those groups' wishes come true and Dean drops out of the race. We'll be sold down the river faster than a 12 year old in Bangkok.


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