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The Donkey Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 11:34 AM
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First Family Values
Ever since he entered public life, George W. Bush’s handlers have gone to great lengths to market him as a compassionate, aw-shucks type of “regular guy” that you’d welcome as a neighbor. While his actions have belied this presumptive perceptual strategy, his reputation as an average Joe has generally withstood even the most blistering controversies of his public career. Beginning with his initial run for president in 2000, the national media have looked at his handlers to determine what kind of man our Commander in Chief really is. This tactic has failed on all fronts, largely because the handlers of the president are doggedly able to stay on message no matter what reality may present to them.


Neither Compassionate, Nor Conservative

To be blunt – those who wish to understand how the president thinks have neglected the easiest path to the real answer. If you want any real insight into the mind of our president, look no further than the two most prominent women in his life – his mother and his wife.

Barbara and Laura Bush have been largely accepted by the general public, and have both remained relatively popular in times when their respective husbands have seen their overall approval ratings take dangerous tumbles. However, the statements they have both made have been lightly regarded, even though they have spoken largely unfettered by those who have tailored the message to their respective husbands while in office. It’s likely that neither of them are inherently bad people – but their combined level of abject detachment or lack of empathy toward the American people is staggering.

Take the president’s mother, for example. In March, 2003, she was asked on the television show Good Morning America anout press coverage regarding the impending casualties from the war in Iraq. She replied by saying the following:

"Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? Oh, I mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?”

Perhaps the deaths of young men and women may not have been relevant to her, but the issue was surely relevant to the rest of the country, where virtually everyone knew somebody that was being called into service for a war that we now know was strictly elective.

More recently, Barbara Bush created a bit of a stir for her comments about the large number of evacuees from Hurricane Katrina that were being housed in the Houston Astrodome. Not only did she state that the thought of many of the largely black evacuees actually taking up residence in Texas as ”kind of scary”, she also expressed the thought that because their lives were so miserbale before the hurricane hit, that the loss of their home, some realtives, and all of their material and personal possessions was a good thing for them:

"So many of the people in the arenas here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, this is ... this is (chuckles) working very well for them."

Sadly, the president’s wife has also shared the view that hurricane Katrina was a good thing for the poor people of New Orleans. Upon her touring of the area in recent days, the following story was printed in the Monterey Herald:

Mrs. Bush said Tuesday that much more human good than bad has come from the disaster, despite what people see on TV. She said the evacuees she has met in her three trips to the Gulf Coast are hopeful and thankful that they don't have to start from rock bottom because of the donations and the kindness of strangers.

"That's what I've seen at each of the shelters I've visited," she said. "I've never heard a single word of complaint."

This is what happens when the mindset of the president’s family is revealed without the heavy-handed adherence to the talking points imposed on Mr. Bush himself. While there is no way to prove that the president shares a similar mindset to his mother or his wife, his actions certainly fit much more comfortably into the detached demeanor of his family than it does of the publice persona created by his handlers.

George Bush may not be an inherently bad person. The same can be said of his immediate family. But at the very least, such cold detachment to the suffering of the most vulnerable in our society shared by his family reflects an ineptitude of such grand levels that it renders anyone who holds this sheltered world outlook incapable of the leadership necessary to see our country through difficult times. If the president shares the same attitude toward anyone in need that his family does, then it is my sincerest hope that no other times of real stress fall upon our country in the next three years. If the events of the past weeks have taught us anything as a country, it is that this administration is completely incapable of understanding the magnitude of any real emergency, much less effectively and tactfully handling it.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 11:41 AM
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1. The last paragraph, particularly, is right on
to me. I know a lot of du'ers see them all as inherently evil by intent and not just negligence, but I have not had that proven to me yet.

However, the concept of the sheltered world outlook is a very, very important one. And the results can be just as deadly.

Perhaps this is what made Bill Clinton more compassionate, a man with an alcoholic father who had to struggle early in his life.

I'm not saying that the wealthy can't be compassionate, but there is that whole "eye of a needle/camel" reference to ponder.
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The Donkey Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 12:00 PM
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2. To me, the jury's still out
on whether or not W's inherently evil - I just think he's spoiled, detached, and intellectually lazy to the Nth degree.

However, his handlers and those elites who benefit most from his policies (who thus know the real implications to the rest of the country as a result of these actions) are about as evil as evil gets.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 12:06 PM
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3. Agree 100% n/t
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 12:24 PM
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6. GWB
Is he really the antichrist, or merely incompetent?
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 12:07 PM
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4. Did you see the twins out there helping people?
Not even once?

Read: American Dynasty, by Kevin Phillips, a well researched book with out fanfare and hype but tells the truth.

This goes back three generations and also on Bar's side.
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The Donkey Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 12:15 PM
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5. Remember,
Bush's dad lost the presidency largely because people felt that he was "out of touch" with the American people. This was never more apparent when he went to a department store for a photo op, bought a pair of socks, and declared the recession to be over.

He was also ridiculed for not having any idea what the current price was for a gallon of milk.

The population as a whole didn't think he was a particularly bad guy, just that he was incapable of solving the nation's problems because he failed to understand how his economic policies really affected the average person.

W. suffers from the same affliction, but his "folksy" demeanor has allowed him to skate past much of the criticism so accurately aimed at his dad. Recent events, however, are finally revealing him for what he is.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 12:58 PM
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7. disagree
"George Bush may not be an inherently bad person." The statute of limitations for blaming your parents for becoming an asshole is about 20 years. George Bush IS an inherantly evil person. The children of Iraq, writhing in pain after flesh had been seared from them by GWB's bombs, would agree. The thousands of dead innocent Iraqis would agree.
His "cold detachment to the suffering" IS the very definition of evil. More so in his case, as he is not just indifferent to suffering, he is actively causing the suffering, he is THE cause of it, not just ignoring it. Your argument may explain being oblivious to suffering, but not his deliberate intentional attempts to bring more pain into the world. He is not merely a sheltered pampered bumbling fool.
GWB in my mind, is just as EVIL, psychotic and sadistic as Idi Amin, Ted Bundy, Hitler, and Pol Pot, and if given further opportunity and power, he would out do them all.
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The Donkey Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:09 PM
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8. Don't get me wrong . . .
I'm no fan of the entire family. I'm not even trying to say that he isn't evil. I'm saying that he doesn't really comprehend or care about the average citizen of this country (or the world, for that matter) in the way that his handlers would like us to believe.

I'm also pointing to things his family says to try and give a little insight to his mindset that hasn't really received any attention.

I think that the guy's never been taught the quality of empathy - as I don't really believe he's ever been exposed to it.

Being isolated in a universe of self-centeredness may not by itself be an inherently evil thing - but it allows for the spread of evil deeeds to prosper at a rate greater than should be acceptable.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:11 PM
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9. I agree
That article ignores Bush laughing at the appeal for her life by a woman on death row.

It ignores his reaction when he learned of the horrendous torture of detainees in US prisons. What he do to stop it? Nothing, he rewarded the quilty.

It also ignores the fact that he has to know of the dead Iraqi children, caused by the lies told to the American people by him and his evil cabal. How can a 'not so bad' individual ignore these things, especially when he is responsible for them, and even if he did not know initially, he does now and has the power to stop them, but has deliberately elevated those directly involved.

His father also started a war that was not necessary, and was the cause of hundreds of thousands of deaths of REAL human beings. He has no remorse for that.

The women in their lives are equally evil, imo, because they HELP those men to do what they do. If I were married to such a person, I would be horrified and would leave him, and then speak out against what he is doing.

It is not just 'detachment'. They are actively involved in all the evil perpetrated on innocent people.

Even if Bush was too busy partying during he hurricane, what was his wife doing? Or mother? Aides were afraid to tell him what was happening, why didn't either his wife or mother call him up screaming 'people are DYING, do something about it'. But that never happened.

His budget was an immoral document, showing no concern for the least among us. Wives have some influence over their husbands' decisions I think. Again, even if he is blind, why did his wife not point out to him how his budget cuts would hurt the poor, the disable etc?

Sorry, if what these people have wrought on so many innocent people, the deaths, the destruction, the torture, the impoverishment etc. is not evil, I do not know what is!!
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pushycat Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 01:21 PM
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10. Detachment to the suffering since David Copperfield
detailed the Peggoty's and Murfords. faux aristocratic Bush family
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