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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:02 AM
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Iraqi National Foundation Congress: "withdraw from Iraq ASAP"
Edited on Fri Sep-16-05 07:05 AM by welshTerrier2
it continues to boggle the mind that "leading" Democrats continue to equivocate about Iraq ... Democrats will either call for a straight-forward withdrawal from Iraq BEFORE republicans do or they will not ... and they will either get the credit for honoring the wishes of the American people and choosing the right policy or they will not ...

none of "the biggest Democratic names" has met that test ... and i include Feingold in that group, btw, because his call for withdrawal, while a step in the right direction, would take far too long ... the game's over NOW ... it doesn't matter what objectives some are seeking; we can't get there from here ... it's time to get out of Iraq as quickly (and safely) as we possibly can ...

and it's time to abandon support for any Democrat who is too tone deaf to call for withdrawal NOW !!! let's give them a few weeks to a month to issue a statement calling for near-term (less than 3 months) withdrawal and then that's it ... last chance to do the right thing ...

the following is an excerpt from a statement made yesterday (9/15/05) by the Iraqi National Foundation Congress:


source: http://abutamam.blogspot.com/2005/09/statement-of-iraqi-national-foundation.html

The insistence of the American occupation forces, and the successive 'Iraqi governments' that are under their control, on adopting a scorched earth policy and the killing and displacing of innocent civilians from their homes and cities as has repeatedly occurred in Najaf, Sadr city, Fallujah, Samarra, Baqouba, Qaim, Hit, Haditha and other Iraqi cities, the last of which was Tala'afar, and their announced threat to yet wage more fruitless similar bloody assaults on the same and other cities will only lead to further bloodshed, instability, destruction and the tearing apart of Iraq. It is high time for the occupation forces to come to their senses and face these facts and commence on a scheduled withdrawal from Iraq as soon as possible, and leave Iraq to its people who are capable of administering it and to tend to the wounds that have been inflicted by the occupation.


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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:40 AM
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1. I don't see how this is news
No offense, but I don't see how this is news.

For more than a year they have stated their primary purpose is to represent the resistance to American occupation.

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=15&ItemID=7297
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 07:52 AM
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2. the BP is about Democrats ...
i don't need to defend a post as being "news" ... this is a discussion forum, not Late Breaking News ...
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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:09 AM
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3. ok, my bad

I agree you didn't post it as "news".

But as long as I've got your attention... :)

Personally I don't like posts which juxtapose Democrats with the umbrella political group for the resistance.

But of course I share your critical view of Democratic footdragging. Clearly the occupation is headed in the wrong direction and civil war has been declared by some participants.

I'd prefer the Democrats hold hearings and a public debate where the rationale for occupation is discussed between those in favor (Kerry, Clinton, etc.) and those opposed. Republican attendance optional.

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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:37 AM
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4. disgusted with Democrats
Edited on Fri Sep-16-05 08:42 AM by welshTerrier2
just to explain a little further where i'm coming from, take a read on Dahr Jamail's latest article: http://dahrjamailiraq.com/weblog/archives/dispatches/000276.php#more

i think there are some Democrats who hold honorable views and genuinely want to make things better for the Iraqi people .. but it just doesn't make any sense anymore ...

the US is going around Iraq blowing up cities and turning them into ghost towns ... we are terrorizing local populations all over Iraq ... imagine the horror of having US forces bomb the crap out of your community, kick the door in in your house, and drag away all the males ... imagine, knowing that the Americans, "the liberators", were coming that your entire community fled with nothing into the desert in 130 degree heat ... no food, no water, no shelter ... just fear ...

and things are only getting worse ... at least if we could see some progress, one could make a credible argument to remain ... but do we? are we blind? more than 200 Iraqis, not terrorists, not Al Qaeda, just plain old Iraqis have been killed in the last two days ... and frankly, there is already civil war ... Iraq has become a cauldron of insanity ...

i just can't make any sense of what the US is doing there ... not from a humanitarian, nation-building point-of-view anyway ... what i think we're doing there is nothing short of imperialism ... we are there for oil and a permanent presence in the heart of OPEC country ... so even those advocating more occupation "with reasonable objectives" will never have their goals achieved ... bush and the neo-cons don't give a damn about the Iraqi people ... all that will result is their exploitation by the American corporate elite ... and this goal is unconscionable ...

you call on Democrats to hold hearings ... i think we're way past that ... i have no objection to hearings but people are dying today ... neo-con imperialism is being imposed today ... Talibani and Chalabi are US puppets with way too much power today ... and perhaps Jafaari too ... and all this suffering, war and death is for what? a religious fundamentalist state? it's truly crazy ...

and politically, i think most elected Democrats are playing games while Iraqis die ... i think Democrats are so afraid of the "soft on defense" label that they have been cowered into total ineffectiveness ... Americans don't see strength as pro-war; they see strength as having clearly defined convictions and fighting like hell for them ...

does anyone sincerely believe that Democrats, no matter what position they hold, are fighting like hell for their positions on Iraq? i surely don't ...

it's time to give Democrats like Clinton (this will never happen), Clark, Dean, Kerry, Edwards, Bayh, Warner and any others i've left out a warning and a last chance ... get with the program or go fuck yourselves ... the arrogance of those who refuse to represent the majority view of the American people and certainly of Democrats can no longer be tolerated ... let all the candidate-supporters kick and whine but i will not support any candidate who continues to support the insanity in Iraq ... you want my vote and my support? then represent my views and the views of the majority ...
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 09:53 AM
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5. Good rant, Welsh
This going around blowing lives to smithereens is crazy. Who in their right mind can support the use of such force?

It must be that congress is not right, otherwise they would be asking questions and demanding answers about Iraq. Instead they ignore the situation. The congress is crazy, insane, downright idiotic.

Let us hope the Sept. 24 rally beats some sense into them. This country needs a sane congress.

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