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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:02 PM
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Is this as bad as it gets, or can it get worse?
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 05:04 PM by Husb2Sparkly
It seems every time we think we have the seen the bottom of the depths to which we've fallen, it gets worse.

Can it get any worse? And Dear God, if it can, what would it look like?
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:02 PM
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1. How bout a cholera outbreak? that's coming. nt.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:06 PM
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9. Right-- I forgot all about cholera.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:22 PM
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17. Beat me to it. Welcome to Choleraland, kiddies!
And if that's not enough, you have rancid, contaminated water, rampant filth, rats, and fleas. Remember what happened last time there were a lot of unwanted rats and fleas in with the contamination and filth? The Black Death.

Are we having fun yet?


Visualize IMPEACHMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pass it on...
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:03 PM
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2. oh H2S I really wish you hadn't asked that
I fear it can get worse indeed
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:05 PM
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4. I wish I didn't have to even consider it
I feel worse than after 9/11 ..... I really, really do.
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never give n Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:04 PM
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CNN reported : It's beginning to rain
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:06 PM
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8. Rain may well be a good thing for them right now
They can collect it and drink it ...... unlike the cesspool they have to stand in.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:04 PM
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3. Sure it can get worse and it probably will.
Disease will set in as the water becomes polluted, more people will die waiting to be rescued or for food or water, riots will continue as people become more distraught and angry, hospitals will continue to loose patients because of not having electricity and the water will not be able to be pumped out due to lack of energy.

Comforting thoughts... Those poor people...
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:05 PM
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5. worse. it is not been as bad as it can get.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:06 PM
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6. A helluva lot worse, I'm afraid
disease, real lawlessness, the logistical problem of providing help to the displaced, the mental health issues. And a president unable to lead.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:25 PM
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19. You have an increasingly desperate population there.
Desperate people do desperate things. I'm surprised there hasn't been rioting and more shooting incidents already.

My husband says that, considering the timeline here, now that it's Thursday and we've had days of this, incubating in the heat and humidity and the filth, diarrhea should be setting in REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLL nice, just about now. If indeed it hasn't already. Probably already epidemic among the babies, toddlers, and elderly there, as we speak.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:06 PM
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7. Sure it can get worse. While N.O. dies something else happens.
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 05:09 PM by kenny blankenship
Earthquake shakes downtown Los Angeles, large buildings collapse, fires rage across city...

White supremacist group sets off nerve gas bombs in NY subways.

Assassination sparks military coup in Saudi Arabia, world oil price soars to $100/bbl.

Bush goes back to Presidentin' with GOP controlled Congress coming back into regular session.

It can get worse you betcha. (AT least one of these disasters is certain to happen in the near term)
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:08 PM
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11. Yes, that's what I was asking ..... *after* Katrina is out of the news ...
.... what would 'worse than this' even look like?
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:22 AM
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35. You got that right.
That was EXACTLY my thought earlier today. No matter what happens, WE ARE ON OUR OWN. The Bush administration is into one thing: looting the treasury. They have their own agenda.

It's just purely accidental that they are being asked to "protect the people".

We should all realize that we could be next. We are quickly becoming a 3rd World Country, where IT'S THE LAW OF THE JUNGLE. Survival of the fittest.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:07 PM
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10. It will get worse.
Count on it. We haven't yet started to see the death toll on this. We are seeing the human suffering in real time. But, there are a lot of corpses out there.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:11 PM
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12. lots worse, c.f. kenny blankenship's post n/t
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pauldavid Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:12 PM
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13. Worse, Much worse. =(
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:16 PM
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14. Well, they could always line the "have nots" along the side of pits
and "take them out" a la Pat Robertson. That's what they'd like to do . . . except for the housekeepers, nannies, gardeners and pool guys.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:18 PM
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15. Sadly, it will get worse, MUCH worse
But keep in mind that it really has to get worse in order for it to get better. People who a few days ago tried to avoid politics now openly HATE Bush. Even many of his former supporters, who tried as hard as they could to give him every benefit of the doubt, are realizing how horrible he is. Cindy Sheehan was the first sign that Bush might be nothing more than a useless coward. Katrina confirmed that he in fact IS a useless coward, without a clue how to lead.

It's horrible that this has to happen, but it must. I really hope that after the smoke clears, we will finally see the end of the Fascist Neoconservative movement.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:20 PM
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16. we still have to deal with Bush/cheney nuking Iran...
Bush says that about 28,000 national guard will be in NO. How do we know these numbers are real when 100 % of the time Bush lies!

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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:24 PM
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18. All that rain that Katrina dropped as it went up the middle of the country
has to drain somewhere. Most of it will end up in the Mississippi River and flow right down to New Orleans. A National Guard General was talking about that Monday on CNN, but I haven't heard much else about it.

Of course, there is the coming outbreak of disease, the infestation of mosquitos. Cholera, maleria, West Nile?

And a guy on CNN at the Convention Center just told Wolf Blitzer that if the Army or National Guard shows up, they better bring a community leader to talk to the people there, or the gangs with guns are likely to take offense at being ordered around and start shooting.

And there are ways it will get worse that we haven't even thought of yet.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:27 PM
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20. And you can bet that those who get paid, professionally, in government
to anticipate things like this won't have thought of any of it yet, either.


:cry:
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:56 PM
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31. You mean the "unknown unknowns"? nt
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:59 PM
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21. Oh, it can get worse, much worse. n/t
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:06 PM
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22. Disease? A terrorist attack? A large earthquake?
How many other things can be piled on top of this?

Any other severe disaster, natural or otherwise, would break an already extremely strained ability to respond. This is a very grave situation.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:10 PM
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23. It gets worse tomorrow
and the day after that and the day after that.

Today marks the 4th day in unbearable heat without drinking water for many of those poor people. They will begin to die in larger and larger numbers.

Without intervention in the next 24-48 hours, the deaths will spike up and continue to do so each day.

The ones that find enough water to make it through the next few days will begin to get sick. Without intervention, they too will die in increasing numbers.

It's going to get a lot worse. Brace yourselves. Hug your children.
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:12 PM
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24. Real world experiment re: effects of martial law and chaor in US?
http://www.legitgov.org/

"It was suggested to me by someone that it seems like the lack of assistance in New Orleans was meant to provoke people to extreme violence and chaos. It certainly looks that way to me... but what if new orleans is being used as a test case to see, in a real world setting, how easily a motivated, angry populace (and the military personnel forced to do the dirty work) could be subdued and controlled to create a working model of how to impose endless Martial Law throughout the country while keeping those who might resist under the lid... and those in the armed forces in line. It's a thought... because I find it absolutely incredible how inept the response has been... to the point of criminality on the part of the federal government." --c., CLG reader.


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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:30 PM
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28. I have been curious
about the same thing...and wondering why? what could be the purpose? nothing happens w/o purpose...NO ONE can tell me, that after 9/11, this country, with it's new Homeland Security Dept...could possibly be this far off the mark with help..I'm not buying it..something is dangerously off kilter in this situation...and I'de say, we better be paying very close attention...
windbreeze
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:14 PM
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25. worse.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:59 PM
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26. It has to get worse before it get better
I've been saying it for 25 years. Now I'm getting REALLY tired of saying it....

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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:04 PM
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27. Bush will show up, and that will interrupt the real efforts to help.
He should stay away. Away from the United States.
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:04 PM
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29. If they don't get those people out it will get worse
Unrest will grow and many more people will die from dehydration, dysentery ect...


and to top it off Hurricane season is just starting.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:45 PM
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30. dammit, NEVER ASK THAT QUESTION. Here, put it this way:
can things ever get better?

Better luck that way, at least.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:13 AM
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32. Cheney gets elected in '08
How about that for a nightmare scenario?
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:20 AM
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34. Frist Gets Elected in 2008 - worse still Pat Robertson.
I despise the neo-cons as much as anybody, but there is one group that is even more horrific and despicable - the Theo-Cons.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:14 AM
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33. Seriously, I think about how neat it will be
when the Dems get the House and Senate back in '06 and impeach and try bush.

I can dream, can't I? :) :)
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