Edwards as Vice President

[RetroLounge]

No, not in THIS election. I was thinking back to the 2000 election.

If Gore had chosen one of this year's candidates as his VP in 2000, what would may have been the results. Try to refrain from bashing.

Remember, THIS IS FOR THE YEAR 2000.

Lieberman: We know what happened...

Clark: Good potential, a plus for military votes, some southern bump, but too much of an unknown. Natl. Security was less of an issue then.

Kerry: Would have been viewed as too liberal, a plus for military votes, but definitely a better pick from a northern state than Joe. Natl. Security was less of an issue then.

Dean: Was really an unknown, but definitely a better pick from a northern state than Joe. Would maybe have been right man but wrong time for his "movement."

DK, Sharpton, Gephardt: Gore goes down in flames...

Edwards: Would have gotten more southern states, and not lost any northern states that gore had won, good looking, smart, telegenic. Maybe as a first time senator could have been viewed as an unknown, but my GUT feeling is Edwards would have been a winning pick for Gore.

of course, it's 2004 and everything has changed...

What do you think?

[AP]

1. Gore picked Joe to win FL. If he picked Edwards, they could have gone

to TN and Ark. and won there. They could have fought in VA and WV too. It could have freed up Gore to campaign harder in NH and the south west.

[LTR]

15. I believe it was the "Clinton Factor"

From what I recall, Gore wanted to distance himself somewhat from Clinton, and he picked Lieberman, who voted for impeachment.

[AP]

17. And Lieberman spent most of his campaign time in Sr Citizens homes in FL

Lieberman was a big part of the FL strategy, which was a big mistake.

[deminflorida]

2. I think the better possiblity is that Edwards is going to be picking

who his vice president is. There are two tickets out of N.H. Clark and Edwards are both those tickets for the general. Kerry and Dean are DOA after Feb. 3. Kerry may be breathing in Missouri if Gephardt endorses but Dean is politically finished after N.H.

[robsul82]

3. SNARF.

Really, really...just SNARF.

Later.

RJS

[RetroLounge]

5. Did you even READ the post?

*snarf*

[returnable]

4. Too hard to call.

My gut says a first-term senator with only 2 years of public service under his belt would've been a tough sell, no matter how attractive the package.

[AP]

6. He would have been ahead of the wave of anti-incumbancy, anti-professional

politicians.

Look, Clark is doing well and he's never been elected anything. Arnold is governor of the biggest state in the nation.

Two-years experience could EASILY have been spun into something very powerful.

[returnable]

18. The political landscape has changed considerably since 2000.

I don't believe the anti-incumbancy, anti-professional angle would've played as well in 2000.

The examples you cite, Clark and Arnold, probably don't have any traction in 2000, either.

I'm not saying Edwards would've hurt Gore or anything. I just don't think he would've significantly altered the race.

As much as we all like to pile on Lieberman, Gore's campaign had deeper problems than that.

[AP]

20. Two other problems caused by Lieberman:

1) Laughing at Cheney's funny joke about how Cheney never made a dime off the government.

2) Saying on national TV that Gore had no plans to challenge unfranked military ballots, even though Gore was going to challenge them.

[Dark Star]

7. This is an inflammatory post and

then you write, "try to refrain from bashing".



The past is the past. Get over it. Gore/Lieberman won the popular vote, remember?

W was going to steal 2000 no matter what, IMO. Let's stick to 2004 here, as the forum is entitled.

[RetroLounge]

9. I'm sorry, but nothing is inflamatory about it

but I see you took the time to post anyhow.

Thank you for your time.

We all really appreciate your insight.

(Get over it? Now where have I heard that before?)

[Dark Star]

14. I'm sorry, but it is inflammatory to

speculate about the 2000 (s)election results in the GD2004 forum.

I don't know where you've heard 'get over it', but we need to "move on"!

[Poseidon]

8. No

Gore should have picked Bob Graham as his VP in 2000. Then we would have carried Florida by at least 5-6%.

[RetroLounge]

11. Ah, yes, I forgot about Graham.

Thanks.

[Abigail147]

21. Graham should be Dean's vice president.

Graham has gravitas and he has experience and some don't.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

10. I said it before and I'll say it again...

Kerry and Edwards looks like a solid ticket for 16 years of Democrats in the White House.

[RetroLounge]

12. "I said it before and I'll say it again..."

Read the original post. YEAR 2000...

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

19. I was fully aware of that.

It still does not diminish my point.

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[SheilaT]

16. The only flaw in this reasoning

is that Gore won. It's just that the election was stolen in Florida.

That said, I was not at all thrilled by the selection of Joe Lieberman as VP.