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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:10 PM
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Rush is frantic this AM- Now that's good radio!
If Rush's attitude is a good representation of the RNC et al, they are very, very worried.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:15 PM
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1. Did he find a new oxycontin hookup?
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:15 PM
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2. Great to hear this! n/t
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:20 PM
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3. Summary? Cliff Notes?
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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:20 PM
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4. Some details please & thanks for listening so we don't have to...
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:21 PM
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5. I personally refuse to listen to him but
what did he do and say. Did he scream shut-up, shut-up, and have his head spin around on his shoulders. Did his anal cyst burst, do tell.
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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:35 PM
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6. What goes around comes around. This is all pay back from
the Clinton years. Hey Neo-Cons God is pissed off and she is going to punish Bush and Thugs.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:37 PM
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7. Yup. Cooper shoring up the allegations over the weekend
is just killing them.

They were playing desperate all last week, and then it was so easy for Cooper just to come back and tell the truth. They're getting worn out with all the lying.

It's hard work!
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writes2000 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:43 PM
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8. Yep. Last Week's Talking Points Have Been Debunked.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:51 PM
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9. Yep. Rove is going down in Plames. In Fact the DC heavens are on fire.


The more we learn, the more it seems as though Rove orchestrated the leaking. Today we learn in the NYT that he was rabidly out to get Wilson, a bit rabidly even for some WH staffers. This weekend we learned Cooper probably had more than the two named sources (Rove and Libby) he gave to the grand jury. We also know Rove was the primary source for Cooper and Libby one of his confirming sources. We so know there were at least 6 primary contacts (incl. Miller, Cooper, Novak, and Pincus) as reported. We also know that there were at least two different primary sources (Libby for Novak and Rove for Cooper) and maybe more (remember Miller's source did not explicitly release her, but Cooper's gave him an explicit waver). And we know that 3 contacts confirmed their stories with one or more other "high administration officials." Therefore, there were minimally 9 calls/contacts. All this with every thing we know about Rove strongly suggests coordination, collusion, and/or conspiracy.

Anyone in the administration who discovered the Plame-Wilson-Niger connection would have taken the information to the world master of personal assassination: Rove. (I'm guessing the VP's office first learned the information since they would have felt somewhat responsible for Wilson's trip to Niger. I'm also guessing the topic of leaking the Plame information was discussed at an emergency meeting of the White House Iraq Group). With 6 original calls, Rove would have to make sure that no two officials tried to act as a primary source for a single reporter (it would appear too eager) He would make sure the primary contacts pitched the information in an off-hand manner, not as the main subject, to make the contact think the source is trying to do him or her a favor ("Don't go too far out on this Wilson thing, I don't want you burnt."), etc. He would also have insured that no two official had exactly the same pitch. Then he would have to arrange for a number of officials (probably 3-4) would be ready and willing to confirm the story. Some of the confirming sources could be primary sources for other reporters, but JUST DOING THE NUMBERS one realizes that there had to be at least 4 officials involved and that they coordinated the leak (and maybe later their responses to the prosecutor).

Therefore an indictment appears likely for Rove and 3 others. In addition, Rove will either be indicted for or censured for his role in the coordination.

Rove would have more to coordinate! To establish guidelines like: No source should call another's contact, Pitch the information off hand, not as the main subject, Make the contact think the source is trying to do him or her a favor ("Don't go too far out on this Wilson thing, I don't want you burnt."), etc. AND Rove would have had to field a group of officials to support the sources stories.

And then we haven't even begun to ask the question of how Rove got the information. (Doesn't leaking the information to him also constitute a crime?) Did Plame give information to officials as one report suggested? Why did Ashcroft recluse himself? (This rings of possible involvement of Cheney or W.) Did Rove have the proper clearance prior to becoming Deputy Chief of Staff to have seen the material? Or were other federal laws broken to the effect that classified information was used for political purposes? Etc.

I think the great thing we have going for us on this case is Patrick Fitzgerald. By all accounts a fine prosecutor.
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writes2000 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 12:57 PM
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10. Oh Boy, Rush Sure Does Sound Frantic
And very whiny.

This caller just explained the judge's finding...specifically referencing how the case has "shifted".

Rush was desperate to IGNORE what the caller was saying. And then he went out of his way to confuse what the caller's point was.

He didn't even let the caller clarify his point (which didn't need clarification, imo.)
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