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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:40 PM
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What Conyers is up against, and why I think any impeachment of any
high ranking official will be after the 2006 election. Even though I would hope it comes sooner.

This is what Rep. Conyers is up against:

The Impeachment Process in a Nutshell

The House Judiciary Committee deliberates over whether to initiate an impeachment inquiry.

The Judiciary Committee adopts a resolution seeking authority from the entire House of Representatives to conduct an inquiry. Before voting, the House debates and considers the resolution. Approval requires a majority vote.

The Judiciary Committee conducts an impeachment inquiry, possibly through public hearings. At the conclusion of the inquiry, articles of impeachment are prepared. They must be approved by a majority of the Committee.

The House of Representatives considers and debates the articles of impeachment. A majority vote of the entire House is required to pass each article. Once an article is approved, the President is, technically speaking, "impeached" -- that is subject to trial in the Senate.

The Senate holds trial on the articles of impeachment approved by the House. The Senate sits as a jury while the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presides over the trial.

At the conclusion of the trial, the Senate votes on whether to remove the President from office. A two-thirds vote by the Members present in the Senate is required for removal.

If the President is removed, the Vice-President assumes the Presidency under the chain of succession established by Amendment XXV.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/background/impeach/impeach.htm

As we have the majority in at least 3 branches of Government protecting the administration in any and all matters, there is very little chance that the Repub controlled House will approve any articles of impeachment.
It is of paramount importance that Mr. Fitz, however long it takes, get to the bottom of this and puts the pieces together.

Any early impeachment therefore is contingent upon the degree of ethics, morale and courage each Republican member of congress holds. And I don't see that at this time. Ultimately they will be watched and judged over the next foreseeable time by their own constituency. This in turn will reflect on the 2006 election outcome.

I believe the majority of Americans can differentiate between right and wrong, regardless of their political convictions. Any and each attempt to further cover-up, smear and divert may confuse and fool some of the people for a short while.
But the pandora's box is now wide open it will not go away.

The fight for a fair impeachment trial in the Senate is also contingent upon a non-political Chief Justice.

What We The People have to do therefore, is take the matter of election fraud seriously, study the past and make sure any and all attempts to tamper with the system, including tabulators must be pre-empted.

and

We The People have to continue to inform ourselves and support our Senators in the advise and consent process of any Supreme Court nominee.

May Justice Prevail and maybe then, we can have intelligent and meaningful debates across both ailes.
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Chicago1 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:47 PM
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1. With this many scandals & SIZE of the scandals...
dumb shit and co may be forced from office and we won't have to wait for a formal impeachment process. The evidence of ALL the different scandals IS ABSOLUTEY UNBELIEVABLE.


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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:49 PM
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2.  If the President is removed, the Vice-President
assumes the Presidency. God help us all!
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:53 PM
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3. Depending on where the investigation leads, they will ALL go down and
quite possibly some Senators.
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Lecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 02:29 PM
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10. Cheney already runs the show
Wouldn't be much different...
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:54 PM
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4. Doesn't matter if it's possible or not - just shouting IMPEACHMENT...
...scores points for us.

(see below)

NGU.


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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:55 PM
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5. I believe they all knew and all of them will go down, spend time in jail
I have to believe this or I could no longer believe even a little that this country believes in justice.

:kick:
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 02:19 PM
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8. I wonder if President Denny Hastert...
if he's still the Speaker of the House when Bush and Cheney utter those immortal words, "I will resign the presidency (vice-presidency) effective noon tomorrow" will grant them pardons?
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 02:25 PM
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9. Oh, boy. hope by then the public will be outraged enough he won't dare
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 02:09 PM
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6. Good points. The problem for the Republicans is that America
has recently begun taking an interest in what's going on. I believe if and when the Democrats on the Judiciary Committee demand a hearing on articles of impeachment the effect will naturally be for voters to compare the offenses of this President with the offense (perjury) that resulted in the Republican House to eagerly pursue Clinton's impeachment.
I don't know what kind of spin they can use to demonstrate that Bush's lie(s) was diffrent. That he wasn't under oath? That he had his fingers crossed when he sent our children off to die?
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 02:11 PM
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7. The Judiciary Committee means Sensenbrenner!
Need I say more? Fuggedaboutit (at least until January 2007)!!
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