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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:51 PM
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A thread in GD is reporting that one of the judges on the grand jury
is calling the outing of Valerie a "plot" against her husband.

It was supposedly said by Lawrence O'Donnell on Lou Dobbs' show.

Anyone know anything about this?

Have any more information????
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:52 PM
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1. There's only one judge?
Did you mean juror?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:54 PM
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9. He said "one of the judges."
I don't know how many.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:52 PM
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2. Yes, that is what O'Donnell said.
Very clearly. He made it clear they were considering it all a serious matter.
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Soup Bean Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:52 PM
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3. I heard O'Donnell say that.
He didn't mince words. He said that it was a very serious issue, and it wouldn't have moved forward if the appeals judges involved didn't think it was a crime.

He also said it remains to be seen who the true criminal is.....
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:53 PM
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5. damn, damn, damn
DAMN!!!

I MISSED THIS??!!!!

I hope someone caught it on tape......
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:54 PM
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7. oh, so it was one of the appeals judges form the past
that makes sense.



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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:12 PM
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13. It's not serious according to FOX. All is fine with ROVE - he is sitting
pretty. Off the hook. Fox says. I don't get to watch FOX - I saw it for about a half hour - what denial, propaganda denial style.

I hope I can watch FOX again on the day the country hears the charges against whomever.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:53 PM
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4. I heard the same thing.
That judge is right on.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:54 PM
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6. See another DU thread
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:54 PM
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8. Yes, that IS what Lawrence O'Donnell said to Lou Dobbs ...
but that's all I know about it. Lou tried to tease his sources out of him, but he held firm and wouldn't say.


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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:04 PM
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10. Ooooo, things are warming up nicely
Aren't they?

Yummy, yummy. COuldn't happen to a bigger creep.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:06 PM
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11. I must say, when the GOP counterattacked
with the spin and talking points, and with the media repeating it over and over, I was starting to get a little apprehensive :hi:
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:06 PM
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12. Not specifically, but. I recall Wilson (yesterday) saying that a "work up"
on him was started in March 2003. That would have been 4 months before Novak's CNN betrayal of the USA (via outing a NOC agent, which status Ms. Plame was confirmed having by Larry Johnson until the very time of her betrayal.





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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:16 PM
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14. That would have given them a long time to obtain legal counsel.
Obsiously, they didn't or they got Ashcroft to 'fix'a way.

Other motivations:

Cheney wanted to shut down the Plame/Brewster Jennings investigation.

Bush had a revenge tantrum and demanded they get Wilson.

Libby and Rove were given orders by both.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:44 PM
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15. There are no judges on a grand jury
Grand juries are drawn from the same jury pools that criminal and civil juries come from. That means you or I could end up on a grand jury one day. Grand juries are, however, overseen by a judge, who has the power to dismiss them or extend their terms and who issues subpoenas on their behalf.

Perhaps O'Donnell was talking about a grand juror or a judge overseeing the grand jury.

BTW, the term of the grand jury investigating the Plame case is set to expire in October.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 06:47 PM
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16. Could they pussyfoot around until the Oct deadline is passed? n/t
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