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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:36 PM
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And the Spin Begins
Don't get too excited over Downing Street memos

Is the Downing Street memo an interesting historical document? You bet it is.

Does it give a peek into America's most loyal allies, as they shook their heads in skepticism at the Bush administration's tortured arguments for war? That much it does.

But here's a little memo of my own, addressed to my frustrated anti-war friends: Take a deep breath, comrades. These quotes advance the case for Bush duplicity, but alone do not prove it.

Much as we'd like it to be, the Downing Street memo is not the smoking gun we've all been waiting for. It's not the impeachable offense at last. It's not even the 2005 equivalent of the Nixon Watergate tapes, that last-straw piece of the evidence that will collapse all remaining public support for a thoughtlessly planned and executed war in Iraq.
http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/nyc-hen0619,0,295479.column?coll=ny-news-columnists
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:41 PM
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1. When did it ever stop??
Wow, did I miss it?

NGU.


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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:46 PM
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2. You know... regardless of what one sees as the the
value of these minutes/memo, what can be anyone's possible justification for not wanting and encouraging an independent investigation into them be? We can disagree on their value, whether they are a "smoking gun" or not and what constitutes an impeachable offense...but... INVESTIGATE THEM. GET THE TRUTH OUT SO WE CAN MOVE ON! (In whatever direction that may be.)
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:47 PM
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3. New UK documents are being leaked each day
as to Bush's obsession to attack Iraq and ignore OBL.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:47 PM
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4. Newsday
is right wng rag, I'd expect nothing less. .
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:47 PM
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5. The first time you look at those minutes, especially if you don't
realize what you are actually reading, you can come to that conclusion. This is without the supporting documentation. The reason is one of human nature, isn't it? It slowly crept into the American consciousness that the reasons for war really were dishonest and that Bush* and his cronies had planned this well in advance, etc.

So "Everybody knows this. This is nothing new."

Nonsense! It was never investigated. That part of the congressional investigation never took place as planned. And nobody addressed the problem, least of all the media. Nobody really said anything out loud.

The media are such cowards.

Their excuses are simply not good enough.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:51 PM
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6. The right all stay the line, the media stays the line and voila
DSM is just old news

only thing going to get this out are MASS Demonstrations
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:00 PM
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7. If that's what it takes
Let's roll.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 06:15 AM
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8. I'm ready. Say when and where.
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