Michael Moore rubs Bush's nose in today's Mission Accomplished retraction.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=3050

WASHINGTON - President Bush said Saturday that pulling out of Iraq now is not an option, rejecting calls by some lawmakers and many people asked in polls to start bringing U.S. troops home.

"The terrorists and insurgents are trying to get us to retreat. Their goal is to get us to leave before Iraqis have had a chance to show the region what a government that is elected and truly accountable to its citizens can do for its people," Bush said in his weekly radio address. "We will settle for nothing less than victory" over terrorists there, he said later.

Bush acknowledged discontent over his decisions but signaled no shift in policy or timing for the American presence in Iraq.

"Some may disagree with my decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power, but all of us can agree that the world's terrorists have now made Iraq a central front in the war on terror," he said. "This mission isn't easy, and it will not be accomplished overnight."

[Botany]

1. STFU *

"The terrorists and insurgents are trying to get us to retreat. Their goal is to get us to leave before Iraqis have had a chance to show the region what a government that is elected and truly accountable to its citizens can do for its people,"

They are not terrorists (some might be) we invaded their country to look
for weapons that were not there after a terrorist attack on the United States
that they had nothing to do with.

[applegrove]

2. The skeptics who thought Iraqis could not build a free society were

the neocons & Jean Kirkpatrick in the 1980s.

Now the reason for going in was 'regime change' not WMD.

Oh he is good at reframing. Finally - the reality of Iraq appears in a speech given by Bush on it. This is the first time. And he had to leave it vague so that I and freepers can all read what we need to in those words.

liar!

[laugle]

17. The neo-con artists are masters at revisionist history! n/t

[applegrove]

18. And Bush was so vague in the previous last two years about the

truth of Iraq. All that mention of FREEDOM & LIBERTY. So - he has no history of speaking on 'the reality' of Iraq. Because it was all so vague.


You have to congratulate the guy for actually making a speech and talking about the war. Must have been wery, wery hard.
:sarcasm:

[laugle]

19. I know what Iraq needs, a new Patriot act,

maybe Bush can send ours over there, that will give them a taste of Bush's Freedom and Democracy!!!!!

[dissent1977]

3. But don't you remember...

Bush had nothing to do with that Mission Accomplished banner, it was the troops that put that up.:banghead:

[HysteryDiagnosis]

4. what a government that is elected and truly accountable to its citizens

Give me a break... accountable to its citizens?? Iraq had more PHD's than the U.S.? Had socialized medicine? Withstood relentless bombings by the U.S.?

Why can't he just hold up the example of America to the region a government that is elected and truly accountable to its citizens?? Because he cannot. Because it would just be another fabrication. Because they already know what we have and maybe, just maybe they don't want any part of it.

Maybe they don't like the 100 economic mandates that Paul Bremer laid down upon them. Maybe like many many Americans they too want their country back.

I've come to the conclusion that much of politics is simply accusing others for mimmicking your behavior, pointing fingers while three are pointing back at you, and fabricating reality to enhance your financial and political clout. Will the braindead in this nation please start paying attention and see how badly you are being duped?

Similar huckstering and charlatanism was about during Watergate, I hope that lesson was not lost on those of you who still stand by this administrations twisting of the truth and blurring of reality.

[whalerider55]

12. ah, but watergate....

took place in when there was a marginally free press.

Woodward outed the president in 1973/74.

He did it again in his book that talked about the Bush prewar hoo-ha, but nobody but us paid attention to it. Have you noticed how often his Bush book is being quoted now that it provides evidence that reinforces the DSM?

and as I recall, Trent Lott was on the house committee that impeached Nixon. And i think he stuck with that anti-semitic criminal up to the end.

keep this story alive. much like 1974, our nation depends on it.

and whoever is Deep Throat over in England tonite sitting on that astonishing stack of memo's- keep those cards and letters coming. democracy, with all its warts, depends on you.

whalerider

[Arkana]

24. You're correct about Mr. Hair Helmet

He voted "nay" on the Nixon impeachment. He was a jackass then, he's one now.

[Lindacooks]

5. This statement just kills me!!! WTF??

"..but all of us can agree that the world's terrorists have now made Iraq a central front in the war on terror."

Yeah, no shit dickhead, now that you have made the country totally unstable, terrorists have flooded into the country. Good work, chimp.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

8. Are they terrorists.... or just people (many of them Saudis) who don't

want to see the westernization of their region, lifestyles, societies and children? I am not saying this is the case... but I wonder in how many instances this is exactly the case. If so, we have done a very very grievous thing... even moreso than we already know.

[Elidor]

9. I know! He's bragging! "We all agree that I've fucked the goat on Iraq"

Like this is a good thing! :wtf:

[Ken Burch]

13. No not the goat, the MULE!

He's a Southern pro-lifer, remember?

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

10. Yes. we can all agree that he's responsible.

I read that and had the same reaction that you did.

The sad part is that he's bragging about it.

:toast:

[Carla in Ca]

31. I can't believe his arrogance of deceit

to try to twist this. He is trying to convince us that the insurgents were in Iraq all the time and if we didn't fight them there they would come here! I cannot, cannot believe this is happening!

[BayouBengal07]

6. Huh?

"Some may disagree with my decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power, but all of us can agree that the world's terrorists have now made Iraq a central front in the war on terror," he said.

Is that supposed to be a positive comment? That we've created a terrorist central focus and breeding ground where there previously wasn't one? The terrorists have now made a society that was once secure (albeit ruthless) and turned it into a hellhole too dangerous to set foot outside in?

Am I supposed to be happy?

[Aviation Pro]

7. He forgot to include the following (or at least his speechwriters forgot)

"...but all of us can agree that the world's terrorists have now made Iraq a central front in the war on terror, which has cost us a mere 1700 American lives and untold billions of dollars."

My hope is that this group of war criminals are put in the dock, prosecuted, convicted and an appropriate punishment is applied.

[Disturbed]

15. For the past few months the Bush Regime and

their Corp. Media have been framing that the Insurgency are mainly terrorists, many from outside of Iraq and that the Sunni faction are only trying to keep Democracy from becoming full blown in Iraq. No mention that some of the Insurgency are anti-Occupation. The frame is that the U.S. must stay in Iraq full force until Iraq can deal with the terrorists. It seems that most Amerikans and most Dems in Congress also believe that the U.S. must stay until Iraqis can handle the terrorists. Of course the chances of that happening within the next 4 years is slim and none.

[Amonester]

39. The chances are not slim, but none (sadly).

All that crap the "speechwriters" wrote is just complete fabulation.

All that really matters for the barbarian neo~CON regime is all the (immediate, like in "cash flow") profits that are "coming-in" day in, day out, and that the real truth is: as long as the profiteers can keep the focus on the daily flow of atrocities, these "handy distractions" only permit them to continue to rip-off the taxpayers' national credit-card for days, weeks, months, and years now.

Heck, they even managed to literally "give" the "other-side" tons and tons of "ungarded" explosives!! Why for, if not to have this total chaos they've willfully planned, created with blatant lies, and now neither will ever "win," nor "leave" hey???

Yeah... These neo-CONs won the absolute "eternal" jackpot!

Charge some more trillions?

[OneTwentyoNine]

34. Cost of War now almost $178 BILLION with over $200 Billion budgeted..n/t

[jimshoes]

11. He's proudly saying

"I've made this place the cesspool that it is and we're gonna keep it that way and I don't care how many have to die for it."

[librechik]

14. Yay! Pack your bags, folks, we're outa there! Remember

everything Bush says is the opposite of what he does. Trust me on this.

This is his exit strategy.

[Whoa_Nelly]

16. Who has THE COMPLETE LIST of LIES w/ quotes and dates?

...and in ascending order?

In the Bush Radio address today:

<snip>

As we work to deliver opportunity at home, we're also keeping you safe from threats from abroad. We went to war because we were attacked, and we are at war today because there are still people out there who want to harm our country and hurt our citizens. Some may disagree with my decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power, but all of us can agree that the world's terrorists have now made Iraq a central front in the war on terror.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20050618/pl_usnw/text_of_president_bush_s_radio_address_to_the_nation_for_june_18102_xml


I would like to have the list of lies so I can email it to my representatives, senators, the WH and anyone else I can think of, such as Franken, Kennedy, Conyers, etc.

Also, prior to Sept. 11 2001, I remember learning from somewhere that BushCo had planned to begin the drumbeat regarding Iraq starting in Oct., 2001, but had to recalculate the politics and timing of escalating that plan since the GOAT BOY and Crew were taken by surprise on 9/11/01...or were they?

Right after Bush took office, (took as in stole), I remember also seeing news footage of Blair visiting him at Camp David. At the time, I was wondering what the hell was up with that. Was this the beginning of the plan to "fix" the facts to fit policy? Or, was this the "Yahoo! Now we can move forward with the ol' Iraq plan!"?

Anyway, whoever has the total list of lies with dates, would sure appreciate having it.

Thanks in advance!

:kisk:

[w8liftinglady]

20. maybe this DU thread?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3891171&mesg_id=3891171

[Whoa_Nelly]

21. Much Thanks, w8liftinglady!

:hi:

[splat@14]

22. He just wanted to ride on the airplane........n/t

[Contrary1]

23. So how can Iraq

be both "a central front in the war on terror" and in
the "last throes" of the insurgency at the same time?

[Rainscents]

25. Oh, man... this guy is losing it!!! He is desperate!

FLIP-FLOP??? Anyone has photo of flip-flop sand I can use?

[CBHagman]

26. Bush is repeating the Frank Luntz's talking point.

Any time you hear a Republican politician recite a variation on "It's better to fight the terrorists on the streets of Baghdad than on the streets of New York or Washington," he's (and usually it's a he) repeating the talking points of pollster Frank Luntz.

Let's leave aside for a moment those words' disturbing implication that somehow it's all right to subject the Iraqis to fighting and bloodshed. Let's focus on how illogical and dangerous those assertions are.

For the attacks of September 11th didn't occur because of Iraq or WMD, and the military wouldn't have been the right force to prevent them. The attacks were inflicted with ordinary planes by men who were living in this country and had no unusual weapons.

There is no reason to believe that attacks will only occur in Iraq -- in fact, we know they will occur elsewhere -- and even the attacks in Iraq show how incompetent the administration's war planning was. The borders are porous, weapons were looted, insufficient numbers of troops were deployed, and the plan to create an Iraqi defense force and police force was inadequate.

In short, this administration lacks truthfulness, logic, strategy, and imagination. The only thing they really do is propaganda.

And don't take my word for it on the Luntz talking points. The Washington Post's SundayPolitics column covered it on June 20, 2004, page A4.

[NightOwwl]

27. I'm sure all the Iraqi citizens,

especially those whose family and friends have been killed or wounded in Bush's folly, are heaving a great sigh of relief to hear Bush reiterate for the thousandth time "the world's terrorists have now made Iraq a central front in the war on terror."

:grr:

[theplutsnw]

28. WTF

"Some may disagree with my decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power, but all of us can agree that the world's terrorists have now made Iraq a central front in the war on terror," he said. "This mission isn't easy, and it will not be accomplished overnight."

Let's finish that statement for him!...world's terrorists have now made Iraq a central front in the war on terror BECAUSE WE ATTACKED. We need someone to start talking about this. He has opened the door to the debate of WHO created the terror threat in Iraq. Maybe it is time for Howard, I don't know, but someone needs to reel this thing in.

[understandinglife]

29. EAT THIS, Bush and your fellow neoconster war criminals:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3894053&mesg_id=3894053

And, definitely choke on this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3885693

And, for desert, eat this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3892388

And, we will bury all of you with this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3742495

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4173.htm


WE THE PEOPLE .... WILL NEVER FORGET

"... we sent our young people into harm's way without leveling with the American people." - Congresswoman Pelosi before Congress, 16 June 2005

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us - Impeachment of Bush and Cheney; indictment and prosecution of all members of the Bush regime who participated in the deception, should be campaign promises of any candidate worthy of our vote in the 2006 Congressional elections.

[flygal]

30. Well, who'll protect all those Halliburton employees?

Who will keep their club houses protected? Of course we can't pull the troops - silly.

[BlueIris]

32. I love MM.com.

And as a Kerry supporter, that's tough for me to post. But other than taking a bunch of cheap shots at my beloved JK, they're firing on all cylinders at the moment.

[JohnnyRingo]

33. The banner and the situation in Iraq caused the White House to backpedal

Claiming that the war wasn't over...Only an end to "major combat operations".

Which is exactly what they're calling this week's crackdown on insurgents.

[malmapus]

35. a government that is elected and truly accountable to its citizens can do

Wow I wonder what such a government is like!!! Such a concept sounds truelly amazing.


I think someone in this thread said it best...STFU *

[suegeo]

36. Some may disagree with my decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power,

Bunnypants sayeth: Some may disagree with my decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power...

But I thought it was the "Decision" of Congress to decide when to declare war. It isn't suppose to be the decision of the president (even a non-elected one) to decide when to drag our country into war. I am pretty sure I read that rule somewhere...

Also, wasn't the reason we were given for this fiasco "Weapons of Mass Destruction?" The insane clown posse told us it did not matter if S.H. remained in power or not.

I grow ever more weary of the psychological abuse they heap on us, non-stop. Can I sue the government for mental anguish that they've caused?

[bluecrush]

37. I'm hoping that MSM

turns more of its focus on Iraq during the slow news, "summer doldrum" period. Jennifer Wilbanks and Michael Jackson are now out of the picture.

[formercia]

38. Looks like Fearless Leader gets his Armageddon after all

what a shame.