Do you HATE George W. Bush?

[tcfrogs]

I asked this about a year ago. Personally, I don't hate anyone. Intensely dislike, strongly disagree with, but I'm not one who hates.

Chime in please, curious about your responses.

Oh, and there are only two options, yes or no.

[dhinojosa]

1. Hate is such an awful word

thats why I reserve for assholes like George W. Bush.

[Arugula Latte]

53. *snort*

tee hee

[PapaJoe]

68. "Hate" not strong enough a word

I have tried "abhore, detest, loathe" with little success.

[AwakeAtLast]

2. My husband is going to Iraq in three weeks,

so, yes, I happen to despise the man right now. :grr:

[dhinojosa]

5. WTF?

What are his views on this war?

Also, I wish you and your family the best through this ordeal, and may he return safe.

[AwakeAtLast]

13. Thanks for your thoughts

The last thing he said to me was, "I've figured out that as long as Republicans are in charge, we will be there forever. As long as we can make Halliburton more money, we will be over there." :cry: He hasn't even made it there yet, and he already has this figured out! He said a lot of his fellow soldiers feel that way, too!

Unfortunately, when he signed up two years ago (National Guard), he didn't plan on a lot of what has happened. He was mislead by recruiters (shocking, I know) and was only home from training for 5 months before being deployed. They are training all soldiers as infantry, regardless of thier MOS. He is not very happy right now, and consequently, we have had our issues because of that. <sigh>

Well, enough about me, I still can't stand our Commander-in-chief!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

60. My son signed up last year...

He is scheduled for boot camp in August. He signed because he was 12 years old when he decided he wanted to be SWAT. We mapped it out, first Nat. Guard after High School, use the $ for school (Criminal Justice), Join the Police, eventually to the SWAT team.

He now has to face the fact that he has to alter his whole future plan. He didn't sign up for this illegal war. It broke my heart yesterday when we were taking pictures of him in his Cap and Gown, and someone asked when he was due to report. I'm not sure what the look on his face was... worried, scared, pissed. He's practically a man now, and has a gorgeous girlfriend, so I haven't seen him much lately. I bribed him with Chocolate-Chip Oatmeal cookies and we are going to sit down and talk on Thurs.

I HATE the evil Chiperor and his evil co-horts that are dismantling the country I raised my kids to love and protect.


edit - passionate spelling!

[October]

64. I'm so sorry

I wish for him a safe and quick return home.

Blessed be.

[splat@14]

54. I wish him well over there and pray for his safe return. Maybe

this nonsense will end soon.

[MrModerate]

3. And the #$**!@ing horse he rode in on. n/t

[saltpoint]

4. Dubya says it's the terrorists we have to be afraid of.

It isn't.

It's the narrow, aggressive Bush foreign policy that is so incendiary to some certain others abroad that is the problem.

A guy whose entire administration IS the problem cannot lead the nation OUT of the problem or into safety.

In the very short list of good Republicans, George W. Bush's name does not appear.

[googly]

61. Bombings of Trade Center, Naval ship, Africa Embassy, and other

attacks by Al Qaeda on American assets happenned long before
georgie was selected for president.

[saltpoint]

70. That is so, but the policy of pre-emptive assault on sovereign nations --

-- was not a staple of U.S. foreign policy and by their own lips, it most certainly is with this administration.

Many Democrats, Greens here and in Europe, and progressive generally have argued that Bush's policies abroad have made the U.S. more, not less, vulnerable.

I'm in that camp.

[evlbstrd]

6. Let me count the ways.

For all of the families that have to let loved ones go to Iraq.
For all of the families that have to bring home the damaged or dead from Iraq.
For all of the families that suffer from the draconian cuts to social services across the board, while the Bush Crime Family lines the pockets of its Syndicate Corporate Cronies.
For all Americans who are being stripped of their rights with little or no oversight from Congress or the Press, while the Judiciary is being attacked.
Oh. My. God.
I hate this man.

[MrSlayer]

7. I don't know him personally.

I hate the things he's doing and the way he portrays us to The World but I don't know him at all, let alone well enough to hate him personally. I certainly hate him politically though, is that enough for a yes vote?

[parasim]

8. No, I don't hate people.

I may hate their actions, but I seriously do not hate people. Hatred is what causes people like Bush to do the things they do. Hatred is what drove Hitler, Stalin, Saddam Hussein, and anybody else who hates others. In my humble opinion, hate is what is wrong with this world. The only thing I really hate is hatred itself.

[burrowowl]

36. Good post

when we hate the person, we become like them.
Although, I must confess, I have a difficult time of it to not hate Bu$h, a very difficult time.

[googly]

62. Very mature and intelligent post !!

[RobbinsdaleDem]

9. If one is going to hate someone

there is no one more deserving of hate than the shrub.

[MO_Dem]

10. I think

Bush hates us!

Edited to add: He hates us for our freedoms.

[AuntiBush]

31. Wow! You are absolutely right! Say the same thing!

He "hates US!" Hates everything we stand-for, and it's so overwhelmingly obvious!

What does he love: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[ginnyinWI]

11. Fear

Fear of reckless disregard and willful ignorance and the destruction they can cause. Fear of sheer stupidity combined with power.

[poverlay]

12. Not as much as I hate

those who make his horrors possible and compounded with their arrogance, ignorance and greed. The word "hate" doesn't come close to describing the sheer immensity of how I feel...

[bemildred]

14. No, hate makes you stupid. nt

[parasim]

15. Well put! nt

[coloradodem2005]

16. I found this site because of my hatred for Bush.

[Gregory1230]

17. Yes I do...

Because he is TOO greedy that he went to war because of Iraq's oil.

[Placebo]

18. What's there to love?

:shrug:

[spotbird]

19. No, but he hates me.

If I hate him he has some control over me.

[GarySeven]

20. My hate is visceral, far exceeding any who have done me wrong

To see that smirking simpleton on TV sends me into fits of rage that are so far out of character for me it is almost frightening. The reasons are many, but I think it is his ignorance that I hate most. But I want to qualify what I mean by "ignorance." I know many people who some would consider un-informed, or ignorant - but this is not what I mean when I refer to Bush. These other people I know are un-informed because of extenuating circumstances in their lives, being a either a lack of opportunities to acquire information or a lack of time to nurture any natural curiosities. I hold no ill will towards them because of these circumstances.

But ...

Bush is a man of wealth and privilege - and he CHOOSES to be ignorant. He chooses not to read because he does not want any idea in his head that challenges the un-examined assumptions by which he lives his un-examined life. His view of the world is simple because he prefers it to be simple: it is EASIER that way. He prefers not to think or inquire, although he has had the opportunities to do both. I cannot understand someone who deliberately chooses a life of black and white in a world suffused with color and nuance. It is his CHOICE of ignorance that turns me into a sputtering rage-aholic. Everything that is wrong about him and his CRIMINAL administration stems from this willful disregard for intelligence and introspection.

-- edited to remove flecks of spittle.

[Ksec]

21. Only when Im awake

check that. I even hate him when Im asleep

[Clark2008]

22. I thought I hated him, but upon deeper reflection, I feel sorry for him.

He can never know real love.

That has to suck.

[parasim]

23. Look at this. Why so much hate? 87%?

No wonder we have so much war in this world. Every body hatin'. War exists because of hatred. You know, all the right wingers are always getting down on us because they always say "You just hate Bush!" Well, I guess there's some truth to that. This is really really discouraging. Why focus your hate on one person? Or one group of people? Why not reserve your hate for the cause of this hatred? Hate war, hate suffering, hate corporate greed, hate motives. Hating someone is not going to change their ways. It just brings back more hatred. Man, this is depressing...

[GarySeven]

26. Your words are meant to inspire, but they give me the chills

I am sorry, but there really is reason to hate some people some time. No matter what our hearts tell us, it is necessary to face up to that grim fact or we put our lives and liberty in peril.

There are some creatures among us so demonstrably evil that they must be stopped, lest that evil grow and devour us. Hitler was and is widely hated for just these reasons, and that is why hatred of Bush - however counterintuitive it may be to you - is necessary.

Bush and his cronies HATE America; he and his Dominionists are bent on destroying the Constitution and eliminating every socially progressive step taken during the 20th century. They are fronted by people who MURDER civil rights leaders, homosexuals, abortion providers; ANYONE who profanes their conception of what REAL Americans should be. They represent the worst threat ever faced by this nation; worse even than Hitler's foreign aggression. This is an enemy in our own midst, whose destructive actions are cloaked in the legality of the very system they seek to usurp and destroy. They are worse than the terrorists who attacked us - and like those terrorists they cannot be reasoned with. Bush and the evil he represents is a crawling infestation of wickedness that must be purged.

And this cannot be done by sitting on the floor, in a circle, holding hands and getting in touch with our "feelings." I admire your willingness to see the best in people, but I am afraid that if too many of us cannot see that there is no redemption for thugs like Bush, then our life in a free republic is doomed to perdition.

[aion]

38. Would you have suggested the same in Germany circa 1930?

Need I remind you of the war crimes, the illegal war, the 'fixed' intelligence, the absolute duplicity and hypocrisy, and the FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE UNQUESTIONABLY DEAD AS A DIRECT RESULT!

[OldLeftieLawyer]

24. Hate? HATE??????

Oh, my feelings about that mutant would have to become so much more benevolent and generous before I could even get close to the concept of hating him so much I'd gladly reach down his gaping mouth to seize whatever vital organ of his I could reach and pull it out and eat it if I was assured he'd be permanently removed from this mortal plane.

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

Sorry. Was there a question on the table?

[usregimechange]

25. I would much rather have Bush than Sadam, just in perspective..

[queeg]

27. Like a bad intestinal gas

and just remember Us in Texas have had to deal with the dipsh*t for a hell of a lot longer than the rest of you---

[napi21]

28. I gotta tell ya, I never hated anyone in my lifetime!

I've disliked some people, I've argued with some, but NEVER hated anyone! I've gone as far as to question my own feelings, and have finally come to the conclusion that I really do hate him for what he's done to my country, and the things he is trying to do.

I feel guilty, because it's wrong to hate!

This man and the people he's surrounded himself with have caused me, for the first time, to consider moving to another Country! It's very sad, but life in Canada, parts of Mexico, Italy (my son works in Sicily) all are better than the US now. I'm not sure I can last until 2008 which is the first possibility of getting rid of this mess.

[tmorelli415]

29. Hate is toxic to your own self

My 'big brother' died when I was 23-years-old. They found his body in the passenger seat of his car, parked under a bridge, with no real signs of who was involved, but indications that he was given a massive dose of morphene. It it was unlikely he could have done it himself considering where the injection site was located. I hated whoever did that to him, but began to realize after a couple years that my hate was keeping me from so many good things in life. It is very consuming if you give into it, and soon you find yourself hating many things and the good just slips away little by little.

I don't think I hate GW. What I feel likely comes as close as anything can to hate, and I despise most of his policies and his lies, deception, manipulation and arrogance. But I can't say I hate him. I don't want to hate anyone again, so I try to see it differently I suppose. It is not easy, but I feel that I'm no better than the right wing extremist bigots and triumphalists if I hate.

Sounds silly but losing somone you love sometimes changes the way you see things like that. I don't want to be someone who hates - as a gay man I know what it is to be hated. When you hate they win and there is enough of it in the world without me adding more.

BTW, I didn't vote - just a little too demoralizing for me personally. I can understand why people would want to, though. Just not me.

[AuntiBush]

30. Think my USERNAME pretty much sums it up. With a glowing passion!

Hate just dosen't cut it anymore. Words can not describe.

[Jamison]

34. Yeah, so does my sig.

.

[mitchum]

32. I hate him with the hate that dares not speak its name...

thanks to federal laws

[Pryderi]

33. I don't hate Bush. He'd prolly be a fun guy to party with, but

he shouldn't be president.

I'm sure some of Hitler's friends didn't think he should be chancellor...

[snowbear]

35. No... He wouldn't be fun to party with! I would.. but not him..

:party: :toast: :bounce:

..................... (( :rofl: ))

[Awsi Dooger]

37. I was taught not to hate anyone

But my parents agree none of those principles apply to George W. Bush. We all despise him.

[BigBearJohn]

39. Nah. I would more likely describe it as DESPISE him.

[Swamp Rat]

40. Other

"Comet, it makes your mouth turn green..."

[spooky3]

41. hate what he's doing to this country and the world

[Disturbed]

42. "War exists because of hatred. "

I disagree.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

44. I've been taught how to hate. When my kids were little they

would come stomping in from outside playing with their friends and declare they "hate" so and so for some kind of offense. Or they would blow in the door after school and pronounce in a dramatic voice they "hate" a teacher with whom they had a disagreement. Or in their teen years when parent and child did not see eye to eye there were times one of my kids would haul out the "hate" word and use it as a hammer against a resolute mother. The pacifist in me would always, always gentle correct the child saying you may "hate" the actions of the one who has upset you but you don't "hate" the person. You do not want to get into the habit of hating people. Of course, there were times when they would come back at me and say they really, really, really hate the person who had "done them wrong." I tried to get through to them you hate the hurtful actions but it is entirely too easy to fall back on hate as an emotion.

Well, I was wrong and my kids were sometimes right. Sometimes the offense is so egregious, so evil, so thought out and planned you learn you do hate a person not just for their actions but their thought processes that allow them to treat others so horribly.

I did not like Richard Nixon, I hated every lie, every thing he did to harm our country. (I actually danced around the living room when it came over the TV set that he has resigned.) But somehow I knew he, himself, was not to be hated. While he and his "friends" were striving to throw an election I just knew the country was stronger than just a few evil men. His actions were to be deplored but he was a pathetic, weak, shell of a man who knew himself so intimately he knew he was not worthy of being president by any means but cheating.

I intensely disliked Reagan. He was just a bumbling fool being used as a propped up leader for a country. He was a scripted actor playing "grandfatherly" president and he should have won an academy award for the performance. I hated his policies, his "trickle down" economics, his destroying of unions (when he was once a union president), his fake proclamations to "tear down that wall" and his mindless (literally) mumbles and fake hearing problems to avoid letting the country know he didn't have clue about anything.

Dumbass Daddy41 was just stupid and therefore, in my mind, harmless. Didn't hate him but sure wished he cared more about our country and less about his friends.

But Nixon and Bush and Chimpy and his evil bunch have planned, plotted, schemed for 40 years for only one goal - to steal a country for their own financial gain. Some on the right will try to convince you that they have undercut the Constitution and our laws for just a difference in ideology but that just isn't the truth. Rove and Co. may use the different groups and their ideologies to gain power but these arguments are only a means to an end. This systematic, controlled, brainwashing of people's minds through fear and lies is a deliberate coup d´ état for money. Tax cuts for the rich, the re-establishment of an upper and lower class, the haves and have nots - they see themselves as worthy of vast wealth at the expense of others and they don't care who or what they use to get it. If they need to get in bed with religious zealots for a time, so be it, if they need to pander to minorities, OK, if they need to instill fear as a means of control, just another method to their madness. It is all about a few people thinking they should control the world and the wealth of the world. As a famous whistle-blower once said, "Follow the money."

This is greed and I HATE them all for it. So, I no longer tell the kids or the grandkids not to hate a person but their actions. I tell them to hate each and every single person in this administration that is helping to destroy my beloved country. Some people are hatred personified and and these guys deserve every ounce of venom that is thrown at them.

So, yes, I hate Commander Cuckoobananas, King Cheney, Flunky Rove and the whole cabal of evildoers. Hate them with a purple passion flamed by a white hot fire of disgust.

[BlueIris]

43. After the election, I lost the desire to truly hate anyone.

Seriously. It's not in me anymore. Even a "person" like Bush, or a "man" like Cheney. Those two, and their little friends, seem so far removed from their own humanity, rational minds or emotions that I almost can't consider them human. But I don't honestly hate them (or anyone). I throw that word around sometimes, when I'm talking about bad people who've done bad things--but I mean it in the "strongly dislike" sense. What those men are DOING however, brings out feelings in me that are closer to what I remember of rage and hatred. Misogyny, bigotry, racism, war, murder or other kinds of injustice? Make my blood boil and heart break. I'm comfortable with that, actually. It keeps me sane. I no longer worry that I'm going to get the crimes confused with the criminals, though, and it's not like I want them...I don't want them to get murdered, or assassinated or tortured or anything...but they do need to go, and pay for what they've done, through whatever systems of justice we can agree are enough to punnish them fairly for all the chaos and destruction they've brought about in the world. I posted earlier that the Republicans--and those who support them--should all be investigated for treason, tried, and if found guilty, punnished the way we punnish traitors under what's left of our law. I'm still deciding whether that's what I really want to see happen.

[Mountainman]

45. If I hated him I would be giving him too much control over my life.

Because your hate actually has negative effects in your life I can't go as far as hating anyone because that would be like letting them fuck with my life. Freepers hate and you see what shit holes they are.

I deeply regret what the people have let the right do to this country and I deeply regret that we couldn't have had a progressive president in office in 2000.

If we ever get the chance to make right all the wrong that has been done to this country it will take ten times as long to fix as it did to fuck it up and for that and for all the missed opportunities that will never happen in my lifetime, I've come as close to hate as anyone can with my feelings for Bush.

[IdaBriggs]

46. Hate isn't a bad thing; its what you do with it that counts.

That visceral recognition of evil, and the strong feeling of rage that accompanies it -- yup, I hate the SOB and his cohorts in crime. Once he's in jail (or I've gotten to spit on his grave, whichever comes first), and we can recover from their crimes, I'm sure it will be time to stop hating him. Until then, I feel my emotion, acknowledge it, and use it to motivate me in my ongoing education efforts to those who are "too busy" to realize we've been taken over by Sauron and his henchmen! :)

[liberalitch]

47. How about fear AND loathe.....

I fear him as anyone would fear a loose cannon on deck.... but I loathe him as he is the one that "unbolted" the big heavy gun while underway

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[MojoXN]

49. Hate Bush?

I hold him in utter contempt, and I would like to see him reap what he has sown with every particle of my being, but hate him? Why would I waste my energy hating such a small, simple man? I'll tell you why I hate him, on the other hand: He thinks that violence is A-OK means to an end. So do ALL of his supporters. Violence is almost NEVER OK. The only time, that violence is justified, in my view, is when used in self-defense. Might does not make right. I hate Bush because he and those of his ilk have made me ashamed to be an American. I hate Bush because ten miles from where I sit, there is a baby girl who will never know her father, Lance. Cpl. Michael Smith, killed in Iraq. I hate Bush because he is making the entire world a more dangerous place; his actions jeopardize the safety and well-being of every person on the planet.

I have quit talking to Rightists, including some family members, whenever possible, because they support *. Eveyone thinks that I take "politics" way too seriously, that this is a silly thing to ostracize people over. This isn't about politics. It's about their support for a mass murderer. I would despise them just as much if they were supportive of Slobodan Milosevic, only difference is that in that case, not associating with them would be socially acceptable. I do not consider Rightists to be unknowingly misled, at least not anymore. They had seen what Bush hath wrought, and still voted for the bastard in '04. They knew that he utterly destroyed an entire nation, two if you count Afghanistan, and still, they cast their vote in support of chaos, death, and destruction. Anyone who supports * is my moral enemy, and even after this nightmare is over, I still will NEVER look at my * supporting former friends, family members, etc. the same way ever again. I hate Bush because he has torn my American nation apart. A divider, not uniter. May that bastard receive ten-thousand fold the suffering that he has caused others.

MojoXN

[RebelOne]

50. I don't hate him.

I prefer to say that I despise him.

[sellitman]

51. The word was invented for parasites like Junior.

Actually there should be a stronger word than hate for Junior but Hate will do for now.

[marions ghost]

52. interesting this question of hate...

I think what I've come to is that sometimes in life it's just too hard to deny feelings of hate and disgust. But I prefer to see it as REJECTION. In other words, I think rejection is a natural and necessary emotional response to extreme exploitation and abuse. Sometimes you have to reject that which is SO damaging that to accept it in any way would be to take on further damage. But it should be reserved for extreme cases as obviously hate is a negative thing to carry around all the time. It can become an obsession. You have to work through it and get beyond it, but I've NOT found that to be easy, certainly not in the microcosm where there may not be enough friends and allies. In the bigger scale such as what we are witnessing now, we DO have friends and allies, we DO have the numbers. I am optimistic that with enough serious rejection by the American people we can thwart the hijackers currently in office and the system they rode in on, and discredit their media petting zoo. I'm encouraged to see so many of us are really at the end of putting up with it. But even if we get past the corruption--the lies, rip-offs and ruthless takeovers of these times, many will still be shell-shocked by it. Recovery will take many years. We have learned not to trust. And there will always be more demons where they came from. So it's best not to have a system that depends on trust. The first job is to hold the criminals accountable, but the long-term job is to overhaul this system.

One of the most admirable traits of Americans is our ability to put up, make do, work around obstacles --that "can-do" thing. But this trusting "make the best of it" attitude has been used against us by opportunists of the most arrogant kind in our own government. We can't fix this situation unless we acknowledge how bad we feel about it. No need to sugar-coat this. These so-called leaders have earned our rightful disgust and rejection. And we are generally people who prefer not to hate. But abusers will continue to abuse as long as we allow it.

[splat@14]

55. Nah, hate takes too much energy and he ain't worth it. He's just a

douche bag that has no business being anyone of authority. He should start drinking again and hang out in the ice-houses around Crawford, take up 8-ball, work on his fuckin ranch and leave the world alone.

[DuaneBidoux]

56. Hate what he is, what he does, what he stands for but I hate no human.

I would really ask all people who really consider themselves progressive to search their soul. One does not need to hate to find a reason to fight against evil couched in evil.

Anyway, I voted no because I simply do not believe it is healthy to hate your enemies. Defeat them? You bet.

[Dervill Crow]

57. Yes I do.

When I look at my kids and think of all the OTHER moms' kids who have died, I just can't help it. That intense hatred is the flipside of the intense love I feel for my family.

I can't even imagine the feelings I would have if I had personally lost someone in *'s war.

[Gyre]

58. 'Personally, I don't hate anyone'.

So you don't hate Hitler and Texas crackers in pick up trucks who drag blacks to death for grins? How about people who preach the sanctity of life while slaughtering thousands of innocent families who happen to get in the way of our "march to freedom"?

What kind of human are you?

Gyre

[dchill]

59. Personally, I don't hate anyone...

but a few politicians. And their mothers.

[googly]

63. I truly hate the IRS and the local property assessor....

The IRS sucks my hard earned money and the assessor keeps
increasing my property tax, even though I am retired.

[Contrary1]

65. He is a sad pathetic little man, but I don't hate him.

What I do hate is the damage he and his cronies have caused, the thousands dead, the many more thousands injured, the fact that many children will go to sleep tonight with the nightmare that one or both of their parents will never come home again. All because of his choice to start a war.

I hate the fact that his policies have put thousands out of work, that he has no concern for the environment, and what his loosening of regulations will cause the world to be like in a hundred years. And yet, he is so very concerned about our children's and grandchildren's money, or lack of it when they retire.

I hate that because of his deals with the major pharmaceutical companies, thousands of people have to do without desperately needed medications.

I hate the fact that he and his big business buddies are reaping millions of dollars in profit due to all the reasons listed above.

[dooner]

66. It's not nice to hate dumb people n/t

[yellowcanine]

67. No, I just hate his sins. Hate the sin, love the sinner, right? Isn't

the line the fundies feed us about gays and lesbians? Turnabout is fair play.

[Miami Liberal]

69. I despise him greatly

He'll be in my part of town tomorrow, ain't I lucky? :sarcasm:

[DemGirl7]

71. I "Hate" GW Bush, if what you mean by "hate" is hating the actions he does

I hate that he has to hate America, because his actions are those as someone who hates America.