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Michigander4Dean Donating Member (588 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:05 PM
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Dean has eight delegates... and remember, that's what counts!
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P04/IA-D.phtml#0119

Kerry 19 dels 42.2%
Edwards 18 dels 40%
Dean 8 dels 17.8%

(plus 11 unpledged)

You need a majority of delegates at the Democratic National Convention to win the nomination. There are 4,322 delegates, with 2,162 needed to win the nomination.

New Hampshire has 27 delegates, of which five are unpledged. Each of New Hampshire's congressional districts gets seven delegates, while the winner of the entire state as a whole will get eight.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:07 PM
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1. How many superdelegates does each have? nt
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:08 PM
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2. So Kucinich wound up with zero
even after selling out in Iowa? Interesting.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:16 AM
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7. you have a very strange notion of selling out
A false one at that. I have noticed that only Dean supporters buy into that irrational idea. Why is that? Third place finish fall a little short of expectations? Bitter aftertaste of Iowa topsoil in the mouth?

If Dennis took donations from AOL/TW or Microsoft like Dean, or favored NAFTA/WTO, like Dean, I would accept the charges of selling out.

Not one principle of his was compromised. Politics is a hard game for smart and practical people, even noble visionaries like DK.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:30 PM
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3. Total Delegate Count
On Goobergunch still has Kerry aheead of Dean.


Dean has 77 Delegates, Kerry 80 and that does not include the recent loss of delegates Dean may have lost from dropped endorsements from those who were delegates.

http://www.freewebs.com/goobergunch/gpr.html
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FreeperSlayer Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:00 PM
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4. ABB!
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Kira Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:29 PM
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5. can you explain a little
about how this delegate and superdelegate issue works. Why does Dean have so many?
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:33 AM
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8. Delegates and Superdelegates...
Delegates are apportioned according to guidelines each state's party sets up. Usually, it's a combination of proportional, cong. district, and statewide voting. There's a few guidelines, I think one being you need 15% to get anything, but each state's a little different.

Superdelegates are people who automatically get a seat at the convention. I think they make up about 20% of the delegates. Every democratic governor, senator, congressman, DNC member, and maybe the state chairs are superdelegates. Also, there are maybe a dozen former high officeholders (President, VP, House speaker, I think former national party chairs) who get spots.

Dean's got a lot of superdelegates as of right now because he has all those endorsements. Last anyone's heard, Gore still plans on voting for Dean at the convention, hence one vote. Another for Harkin, another for Patrick Leahy, and so on. Those could change, however.
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:00 AM
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6. Actually no one has any elected delegates in Iowa yet
Congressional district conventions are in April and the state convention is in June. Delegates are elected then from the delegates elected last week in Iowa. If the candidates strength stays about the same the numbers mentioned in the original post is about what the candidates can expect. But no county delgates are bound to their candidates so you could possibly see Kucinich pick up a delegate if his people signed up as alternates or got elected as delegates.

Interest falls off so a lot of people elected as county delegates fail to go to their county convention. Campaigns that are smart wshould be planning follow up work to get their supporters to attend these conventions.

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