Sen. George Allen (R-VA): "Lieberman will be with us on Bolton"

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7967386/

With an incentive to change the topic and try to regain his tactical initiative, Frist was poised Tuesday to bring the nomination of John Bolton, Bush’s choice to be ambassador to the United Nations, to the floor for debate and a vote as early as Wednesday. This would spark another no-holds-battle with Democrats who have hinted they will filibuster that nomination as well.

But Allen was upbeat on Bolton: “Sen. (Joseph) Lieberman (of Connecticut) will be with us on Bolton … We’ll pick up some Democrats.”

And at least one Senate power broker was trying Tuesday to parlay any good feeling that lingered after the deal on judges to get legislation passed.

“There may be a certain sense of euphoria around the Senate; it’ll probably last as much as 24 or 48 hours,” said Judiciary Committee chairman Sen. Arlen Specter, R- Pa. He will try to get his committee to approve the asbestos reform litigation bill by Friday.

[Avalux]

1. "some" democrats.....

wonder who else besides Joemama?

[whistle]

2. Did Joe LIEberman say that or agree to that?

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

3. Apparently Allen thinks he did...

...it's the only mention of Lieberman in the article, and he's not directly quoted.

[LittleClarkie]

4. How are they getting Boxer's hold off of him?

I thought they had to vote on that.

[xxqqqzme]

19. Boxer's waiting 4 the docs

the committee requested but kindasleazy refused. How do they remove the hold w/o the requested docs?

[LittleClarkie]

21. I thought it needed a filibuster-style vote over 60 to come back off

We shall see.

[corbett]

23. That's My Take, Too

As far as I'm aware, we're safe until Senator Boxer releases the hold. The last public statement which she made to that effect was after the committee vote which sent the matter to the floor without an endorsement. In that, she said that she would stall the process until at least after the Memorial Day recess.

Last night, after the nuclear option was averted, I sent her an email insisting that she not allow confirmation of Bolton to be a gift to the right for compromising on the filibuster. As of today, rejecting his nomination is the top item on her PAC homepage

http://www.barbaraboxer.com

I strongly recommend that you send her an email like mine via:

http://boxer.senate.gov/contact/webform.cfm

Tell her that her attempts to bog down the process of voting on Bolton should not be tied in any way to the filibuster compromise.

[xxqqqzme]

25. from BB site

http://www.barbaraboxer.com/news?id=0009

"...Boxer's move, which the Republican Senate majority could overturn by getting 51 votes in favor of a motion to proceed despite her hold, could further raise the partisan temperature in a body already fighting over Republican efforts to curb the Democratic minority's power to filibuster Bush's judicial nominees.

Boxer and the other Democrats on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee said the Bush administration had failed to turn over documents in three areas: notes and drafts of a Bolton speech on Syria's military capabilities, private business records of Bolton's assistant Mathew Friedman and information from the National Security Agency and other spy services about whether Bolton tried to get the names of American officials whose communications were intercepted.

"These records may show something, or nothing,'' Boxer said.

Boxer said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and the White House have promised complete cooperation with the committee, but so far they haven't delivered...."

[Pirate Smile]

36. Boxer agreed to take the hold off.

Here it is from Steve Clemens:

"Senator Boxer has agreed to remove her "hold" on Bolton as Frist can remove the hold with a "motion to proceed" which requires only a simple majority to win."

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/

[saltpoint]

5. Virginia.

"You've got to scrape that shit right off your shoes."

--last line of the chorus of "Sweet Virginia" by the Rolling Stones

Allen kinda fits with Georgia, but he's the junior fascist from Virginia.

And I appreciate this fair warning you've given us on Lieberman & I will cross my liberal ten fingers and hope it's not true.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

12. Thanks for catching that...I fixed it.

:toast:

[saltpoint]

16. Hey, not to worry. The far-right kook Republicans are mostly --

-- interchangeable anyway.

'Appreciated your post, Bush_Eats_Beef.

[WI_DEM]

6. how can the self-appointed moral conscience of the senate

support somebody like Bolton?

[Prodemsouth]

7. Anyone surprised?? Look at other peopleor orgs who are for

Bolton and connect the dots, do the math..

[angryinoville]

8. What republican senator would you trade Joe for...

if you had to pick and they were willing to change sides? Maybe Lincoln Chafey.

[saltpoint]

11. I still like the guy he defeated for that seat -- Lowell Weicker.

Best Republican ever.

[JerseygirlCT]

15. With you there.

Pissed plenty of people off doing the right thing. Got to love a guy like that.

[saltpoint]

18. Hi, JerseygirlCT. You're right -- he did piss off a lot of folks,

so he must have been doing something right.

We could sure use him in the Senate today instead of:

Santorum
Martinez
isakson
Allen
lieberman
vitter
Allard
mcConnell
Hutchison
Cornyn

etc. -- on down the baneful list of lunatics.

Nice to meet you on DU.

[JerseygirlCT]

31. Thanks! You too

Yeah, it's a shame he's said he's absolutely out of politics. He'd do us (meaning the country, not just Democrats) a whole lot of good.

[HarrietBrown]

33. I still have an old "I'm a Weicker Liker" pin and wouldn't mind wearing it

[saltpoint]

45. Cool pin slogan. I really admire the way Weicker stood up to --

- Richard Nixon at a time when it wasn't popular to do that.

Tall in height and tall in principle, too.

[Prodemsouth]

14. No - even though I don't like Lieberman - compare the overall

voting records - Lincoln would be much further to the right on the total voting record if he were a Dem than Lieberman.

[kaygore]

9. Allen is from Virginia, not Georgia & he's a jerk

who wants to be president although he reached his level of incompetence before he ever became a loser governor of Virginia.

I may not always agree with Senator Warner, but at least he is qualified and he is a statesman. Allen is an opportunist who has leveraged his father's fame as coach of the Redskins.

[Prodemsouth]

10. Allen is from Virginia- but that don't mean the two we got here in

GA are any better.

[kaygore]

13. I think there is a movement in Connecticut to get rid of Joe

and get a real Democrat in there. I haven't heard much lately, but one of the Yahoogroups I belong to had some chatter a while back and I think that there is a Yahoogroup devoted to this end.

[HarrietBrown]

32. It's dumpjoe.com. They were at the last anti-war protest in Hartford.

[kaygore]

46. Thanks

[Pirate Smile]

17. Well, Voinovich sure wont and it looks like he is urging others to join

him.

"In the letter, Mr. Voinovich said that while he had been "hesitant to push my views on my colleagues" during his years in the Senate, he felt "compelled to share my deep concerns" about Mr. Bolton's nomination.

"In these dangerous times, we cannot afford to put at risk our nation's ability to successfully wage and win the war on terror with a controversial and ineffective ambassador to the United Nations," Mr. Voinovich wrote. He urged colleagues to "put aside our partisan agenda and let our consciences and our shared commitment to our nation's best interests guide us."'

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/24/politics/24cnd-bolton...

[spooky3]

35. wish your link worked for me

[Pirate Smile]

37. Sorry about that - this link works. (It is too late for me to edit and

change the one above)

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/24/politics/24cnd-bolton.html

-snip-
The letter from Senator George R. Voinovich was sent to all senators, but it was aimed particularly at fellow Republicans in a chamber in which the party holds a 55-44 majority (with one independent). At least five Republicans would have to join Mr. Voinovich in opposing Mr. Bolton if the nomination were to be defeated.

In the letter, Mr. Voinovich said that while he had been "hesitant to push my views on my colleagues" during his years in the Senate, he felt "compelled to share my deep concerns" about Mr. Bolton's nomination.

"In these dangerous times, we cannot afford to put at risk our nation's ability to successfully wage and win the war on terror with a controversial and ineffective ambassador to the United Nations," Mr. Voinovich wrote. He urged colleagues to "put aside our partisan agenda and let our consciences and our shared commitment to our nation's best interests guide us."

The White House remains strongly in favor of Mr. Bolton's nomination, and it is unusual for a Republican to break ranks so publicly by circulating a letter opposed to a Republican president's agenda. A copy of Mr. Voinovich's letter, dated May 23 but not circulated until Tuesday, was provided by a Senate Democratic aide opposed to Mr. Bolton.

more at the link....

[spooky3]

38. Thanks. That's a very interesting development. I'm beginning to

believe he is sincere about this.

I hope some of his colleagues grow a conscience, open their eyes, find a spine, or whatever it takes, to join him.

[Pirate Smile]

40. It looks like he may be changing the minds of some Dems or stiffening

their spines. Hopefully he is influencing some of the moderate or wavering Republicans. I'd love to see Bolton actually lose in an "up and down" vote.

"There are rumors that even Senators Lieberman, Ben Nelson, Mark Pryor and Mary Landrieu are reconsidering their semi-positive leanings on Bolton."

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/

[kevinmc]

20. Old News he said that a long time ago

Lieberman has been saying he backed Bolton from the start. Lieberman is a Democrat Neo-Con. Anything the Neo-Cons come up with he votes yes.

[Al-CIAda]

22. PNAC/AIPAC operative n/t

[Cha]

24. Is there anything we can do

to hurt lieberman? And I mean this in the most non-violent way.

[Rainscents]

26. I just heard, Liberman is not voting for Bolton.

[Cha]

27. REALLY! Then ol' george

allen is WRONG!

I'm so happy but curious as to why? bolton must be too bad even for the likes of lieberman.

[LittleClarkie]

30. From where?

can you provide a link or a source? Thanks.

[CityDem]

28. Bolton will pass unless we filibuster

And I am unsure we are ready for another bare knuckle brawl on the senate floor. My sense is Reid will allow an up or down vote and Bolton will get around 55 votes (including a couple dems). So sad I may have to drown myself in tequila on Friday.

[Gloria]

29. "Good feeling" in the Senate??? Somebody didn't tell Frist...

Really, you'd think the Democrats would wake up and really understand how SHITTY all Republicans really are at this point, including the "moderates" who cave as easily as the Democrats.

Really. What the hell is the point off all this crap if you can't control your own caucus, Sen. Reid??

[spooky3]

34. where do I contribute to the Mark Warner for Senate campaign?

[Pirate Smile]

39. Isn't he running for President?

:)

I'd love to pick up that seat.

[Clark2008]

43. Just found out Warner is a Bilderberger.

:cry:

He was my second choice if Clark doesn't run - but I don't support those richie rich folk who think the rest of us are play toys.

[Geek_Girl]

41. Who is running against Lieberman in the 06 Primaries?

I would like to contribute to their campaign.

[LibertyorDeath]

42. God this guy sickens me he is such a fucking shitweasel

of a politician his smarmyness oozes of the tv screen.

He will do whatever bush,cheney,& Rove tell him to.

dumpjoe.com should put up billboards all over Connecticut of the time he kissed bush

What a creep.

[CTLawGuy]

44. I refer you only to my sig pic

NT

[Califooyah Operative]

47. haha. nt

[SarahB]

48. I hate Lieberman!

As a CT Democrat, he does not represent me. I WANT CHOICES!!!! :grr: :mad: :nuke: