Dobson: Agreement is betrayal and "a great victory for united Democrats"

[Rose Siding]

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"This Senate agreement represents a complete bailout and betrayal by a cabal of Republicans and a great victory for united Democrats. Only three of President Bush’s nominees will be given the courtesy of an up-or-down vote, and it's business as usual for all the rest. The rules that blocked conservative nominees remain in effect, and nothing of significance has changed. Justice Clarence Thomas, Justice Antonin Scalia, and Chief Justice William Rehnquist would never have served on the U. S. Supreme Court if this agreement had been in place during their confirmations. The unconstitutional filibuster survives in the arsenal of Senate liberals.

"We are grateful to Majority Leader Frist for courageously fighting to defend the vital principle of basic fairness. That principle has now gone down to defeat. We share the disappointment, outrage and sense of abandonment felt by millions of conservative Americans who helped put Republicans in power last November. I am certain that these voters will remember both Democrats and Republicans who betrayed their trust."

press release via Americablog
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/05/dobson-has-been-betrayedthe-other-side.html

Uh, wasn't the Senate operating under these very rules when the judges he mentions *were* confirmed? Isn't that what happened with Fortes?

[killbotfactory]

1. I'd hate to be Dobson's dog when he gets home..

[iconoclastic cat]

5. Especially if he brings Santorum!

[jobycom]

6. ROFLMAO!!! nt

[brainshrub]

19. Dobson admits that he's been abusive with his dog.

James Dobson: Dog Abuser
By Chris Dugan
April 2000
http://www.geocities.com/cddugan/DobsonsDog.html

In his best-selling book, "The Strong-Willed Child," child-rearing author James Dobson describes how he abused his family's pet dachshund, Siggie:


"Please don't misunderstand me. Siggie is a member of our family and we love him dearly. And despite his anarchistic nature, I have finally taught him to obey a few simple commands. However, we had some classic battles before he reluctantly yielded to my authority.

"The greatest confrontation occurred a few years ago when I had been in Miami for a three-day conference. I returned to observe that Siggie had become boss of the house while I was gone. But I didn't realize until later that evening just how strongly he felt about his new position as Captain.

"At eleven o'clock that night, I told Siggie to go get into his bed, which is a permanent enclosure in the family room. For six years I had given him that order at the end of each day, and for six years Siggie had obeyed.

"On this occasion, however, he refused to budge. You see, he was in the bathroom, seated comfortably on the furry lid of the toilet seat. That is his favorite spot in the house, because it allows him to bask in the warmth of a nearby electric heater..."


: One of the greatest "secrets" of nonpunitive parenting (or pet-keeping) is "don't sweat the small stuff." If the dog is comfortable sitting on the toilet seat by the heater, why not let him sit there (so long as no one has to use the toilet at that particular moment)? Of course, for the neurotically-rigid James Dobson, sweating each and every little trivial, easily-avoidable non-issue and turning it into a battle of wills is the pure essense of what child discipline is all about. He writes:


"When I told Sigmund to leave his warm seat and go to bed, he flattened his ears and slowly turned his head toward me. He deliberately braced himself by placing one paw on the edge of the furry lid, then hunched his shoulders, raised his lips to reveal the molars on both sides, and uttered his most threatening growl. That was Siggie's way of saying. "Get lost!"

"I had seen this defiant mood before, and knew there was only one way to deal with it. The ONLY way to make Siggie obey is to threaten him with destruction. Nothing else works. I turned and went to my closet and got a small belt to help me "reason" with Mr. Freud."


: What Dobson never explains to his readers is WHY it was so essential that the dog sleep where Dobson wanted him to sleep instead of where the dog wanted to sleep. Dobson is behaving like a toddler who throws a violent tantrum if his "bedtime ritual" isn't adhered to down to the slightest detail. Making Siggie go to sleep on command where and when Dobson wants him to has been part of this overgrown toddler's bedtime ritual for six years. Now, Siggie is interfering with a small detail of this bedtime ritual of Dobson's by wanting to sleep somewhere else which is warmer and more comfortable. So Dobson, true to his infantile level of emotional maturity, throws a violent tantrum:

...

Entire article here:
http://www.geocities.com/cddugan/DobsonsDog.html

[RaleighNCDUer]

27. He took a belt to a dachshund?

It must be awful to be him.

[blondeatlast]

20. Oooooh, that gave me the creeps. Thank God he doesn't have

small children.

[merwin]

2. HELL YEAH. I knew he would be pissed off. This makes me even

more happy!

[iconoclastic cat]

3. United? Well, then he hasn't been to DU.

[NightOwwl]

4. Hey Dobson....

The American people just told you to go fuck yourself!

[jobycom]

9. Well, or he could go do that to Horsley's mule... his choice, really. nt

[ginnyinWI]

7. I knew it!

I knew old Dobsey would be mad! Haha, serves you right, you old villan. hahahahaha

(I have a personal grudge against this man--can you tell? I listened to him long ago on the subject of raising children, and now view his advice as wrong.)

[movonne]

8. He is just as big of a liar as the rest of this administration If he said

we are the winner then you can believe we are the losers..

[Pachamama]

25. Him and Uncle Karl laughed while they wrote this!

I don't believe for a moment that he believes this was a win for the Dems....

I agree...if he said that we won, we lost...

[ooglymoogly]

33. uncle karl fiddled about, fiddled about, while dobson steno graphed

great words and talking points from our leader.

[elizm]

40. Agreed!

...He would NEVER say 'united' Dems...even it were true. The comment smelled the minute I read it.

[Zen Democrat]

10. Dobson's had a bad day. This, and Trent Lott calling him "unchristian".

[madrchsod]

11. if Salazar

helped in broking the deal as some are reporting,shit is hitting the fan in the rockies..salazar just made some really choice statements about doobie and the crazied bunch that support him. i love it when the fundies implode.

[Rainscents]

12. I would love to be fly on the wall watching him throwing shit around...

:rofl:

[Hippo_Tron]

13. OH MY GOD, I AGREE WITH DOBSON

Sorry sorry, washing my mouth out with soap.

[Califooyah Operative]

24. hehehe. nt

[Dr Fate]

14. Dobson should try sucking my dick.

They say it relieves stress.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

15. What unmitigated GALL!

What makes him think that his bullying threats scare anybody anymore? He is an ugly little man and most of the country knows it.

[LittleClarkie]

16. That made me smile. Thanks

Dobson sad. Me glad.

He's trying to spin it away from Frist I see though.

[DawnneOBTS]

17. ROFL! HAHAHAHAHA N/T

[DinahMoeHum]

18. Oh, Dobson, up your ass with a piece of broken glass.

I'm gonna have fun watching the fundies and the Repukes tear each other up overe the next several months.

Stand back and pass the popcorn.

:popcorn:

[blondeatlast]

22. Might be fun to lurk at the RNC boards for a while.

That other place is just beyond my abilities to cope...

[Pithy Cherub]

21. So Dobson & SpongeBill are gonna cry in their beers together...

A horrible republican dilemma: One can not live without the other - so which one is in charge of the feeding tube now?:shrug:

[janx]

23. He's probably doubly pissed because Salazar was in on it!

:rofl:

[Fatpuppy]

26. What is he talking about?

There was also a Democratic majority in the Senate when Thomas, Scalia, and Rehnquist were confirmed.

What a moron.

[ClintonTyree]

28. Am I the only one here.............

who thinks Dobson is quietly smiling to himself this morning? Sure, in public he HAS to exhibit outrage. However, in private, he got everything he really wanted. Three extremist Judges with the promise of many, many more. They're going to have a Supreme Court loaded with rabid, activist Judges.........Dobson's playing us like a fiddle. And we're dancing to the tune like the bunch of idiots we are. We're actually buying this........ :eyes: Sickening.

[Mugsy]

29. If it is "Unconstitutional", sent it to the Supreme Court

According to Dobson, the filibuster is "unconstitutional". If that is indeed the case, he needs to file charges and take it to the Supreme Court.

When Democrats return to power (and short of any further electronic vote tampering, should be soon), I certainly pray a Democrat re-introduces the "nuclear option" just to see how many Republicans suddenly "see the light" and oppose it. Even if you don't support your own bill, force the Republicans to vote against it (or *for* it even). Too sweet.

[dec1549]

44. Don't go to the SC

Randi Rhodes brought this up this afternoon. The filibuster is an "internal" Senate rule. It is not a law to be adjudicated. The Supreme Court has absolutely no authority over it. To bring the Supreme Court into an internal legislative matter would open up a can of worms we don't even want to go to. Even this Supreme Court would recognize that and not get into it. The filibuster isn't unconstitutional. It is a rule the Senate made over 200 years ago. The only thing that has changed is the number of Senators required for cloture. It used to be 67, it's now 60. That's why the Senate has been boondoggled over this for months. That's why Frist brought up the nuclear option. Even he realized this isn't a matter for any institution other than the Senate.

[Roland99]

30. Who the hell does Dobson think he is anyway?? *HE* doesn't run the Senate!

Fucking little POS fake Christian.

[Callboy]

31. how does this represent my interests

you just opened the floodgates of compromised principals.....

and the moderates try to rise above the fray saying the walked the higher ground of getting along with themselves,a victory for the people,

how is that a victory for the people when laws will be passed against their interests?

how pathetic....

[amb123]

32. What an idiot!

What an idiot! He's getting what he wanted! He'll have three judges that will vote against Church/State Separation, every time. They'll vote against a women's right to choose, every time. They'll vote against civil rights for Gays and Lesbians, every time. They'll vote to destroy our civil liberties, every time. They'll vote for Big-Brother Government, Big-Brother Corporations and Big-Brother Religion, every time. What is Dobson's problem?!

:nopity:

[DemocracyInaction]

34. Why do I smell political ambitions with some of this preachermen

right wing vermin?? They are all pitching a fit today. Perhaps they would like to lead a good Christian third party???------come on, come on, do it....make my day.......please.......

[sui generis]

35. wah wah wah! wah!

wah wah!

republican piteous whining. Music to my ears.

[JohnnyRingo]

36. If Dobson is upset with the recent compromise....

...The I'm thrilled with it.

I don't know that it's a democratic victory, but if it's seen as a loss by the wing-nuts, then I feel better.

[cestpaspossible]

37. Dobson: poster boy for hypocrisy

[Turn CO Blue]

38. Dobson will be on Fox News tonight, Hannity and Colmes

I can't stand to watch, but maybe somebody can bear up and provide us with the highlights of any Repub bashing by the good doctor...

<http://www.family.org/webextras/A0036642.cfm>

[Anakin Skywalker]

39. Nothing Is Ever Good Enough

for rightwing fundamentalist nuts like Doo Doo Head Dobson!

[SmileMaker]

41. Dobson's Spanking Mad Jesus Posse

just made this up to describe his followers :spank:

[sickem]

42. Something is wrong here

Why would these wing nut Republicrites agree to compromise on anything right now? Someone must have thrown them a HUGE bone. I wonder what it was? Maybe a promise not to pursue impeachment of Bush over his Iraq WMD lies no matter how much evidence they get? Maybe a promise not to charge John McCain and the other phonies on the original commission that investigated Iraqi weapons claims with a Congressional cover up?

Something smells fishy here.

[dec1549]

43. Frist tries to back down

There is nothing "unconstitutional" about the filibuster. In fact, it is the one thing that makes this country a Democracy. It allows the minority to have a voice, it calms down "troubled waters," and it lets Senators stand back and take a deep breath. The Senate was envisioned by the Founding Fathers as a brake on the more rancorous and rambunctious House. The Senate was meant to serve as the "cooling off" branch of government. And it is also is the "upper" house in the National Legislature. The upper house of the third and equal branch of the government. There are reasons the founding fathers gave the two houses of Congress different responsibilities. The House is to have control of the purse strings because the House is supposed to be "closer to the people." That is also why the House is the only branch of government that can declare war Those are two very immediate events. The Senate, however, is supposed to be more deliberative. That's why it ratifies treaties, and advises and consents to judicial appointments. It isn't the president's right to have every judicial nominee he puts forth to be approved. In fact, the Founding Fathers envisioned the executive branch to be the weakest branch of the government simply because that branch consists of one man and they had all lived under the tyranny of a king. The tragedy of this country discounting history has just been proved. For people who know how the Founding Fathers really meant for this country to be governed, the compromise was a relief. However, I think it was a very flawed compromise.

[chomskysright]

45. no problem: they are backing into their corner nicely...

[geckosfeet]

46. They do not even have the common decency to say thank you

to acknowledge a gift. What ungrateful bastards they are.