Saddam Underwear pushed by Drudge to cover this Breaking NYT's Story!

[KoKo]

This is the news that shows we violated Geneva Conventions that's being "pushed" by Drudge/Imus and the rest wanting to make Saddam the Strawman to hide the dreadfulness of what's described in this breaking article from NYT's.

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May 20, 2005
In U.S. Report, Brutal Details of 2 Afghan Inmates' Deaths
By TIM GOLDEN

Even as the young Afghan man was dying before them, his American jailers continued to torment him.

The prisoner, a slight, 22-year-old taxi driver known only as Dilawar, was hauled from his cell at the detention center in Bagram, Afghanistan, at around 2 a.m. to answer questions about a rocket attack on an American base. When he arrived in the interrogation room, an interpreter who was present said, his legs were bouncing uncontrollably in the plastic chair and his hands were numb. He had been chained by the wrists to the top of his cell for much of the previous four days.

Mr. Dilawar asked for a drink of water, and one of the two interrogators, Specialist Joshua R. Claus, 21, picked up a large plastic bottle. But first he punched a hole in the bottom, the interpreter said, so as the prisoner fumbled weakly with the cap, the water poured out over his orange prison scrubs. The soldier then grabbed the bottle back and began squirting the water forcefully into Mr. Dilawar's face.

"Come on, drink!" the interpreter said Specialist Claus had shouted, as the prisoner gagged on the spray. "Drink!"

At the interrogators' behest, a guard tried to force the young man to his knees. But his legs, which had been pummeled by guards for several days, could no longer bend. An interrogator told Mr. Dilawar that he could see a doctor after they finished with him. When he was finally sent back to his cell, though, the guards were instructed only to chain the prisoner back to the ceiling.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/20/international/asia/20abuse.html?hp&ex=1116648000&en=6cca0512a38427c3&ei=5094&partner=homepage

A sketch by Thomas V. Curtis, a former Reserve M.P. sergeant, showing how Dilawar was chained to the ceiling of his cell.

[RobertSeattle]

1. And the White House is shocked shocked shocked about the Saddam Photo

[NYCGirl]

2. I don't think Drudge is "covering up" the NY Times story...

it's just not the kind of thing he'd ever post. I don't see his site as one for REAL news or journalism.

[KoKo]

5. You didn't understand my post. Saddam is the distraction for this REAL

expose of horrible abuse in Afghanistan. Rove had to do something to deflect from NYT's breaking this story to get the cable media and the Right Wing echo chamber focusing on Saddam in his underwear (Red Herring, might be photoshopped).

[NYCGirl]

7. So if it wasn't Saddam's underwear it would have been Britney Spears or

Michael Jackson, or lots of other things. There are always stories that have more appeal to the masses than war atrocities. Not everything that happens in the world is Rove's machinations. I guarantee there'll be a lot more in the news about Star Wars this weekend than about the NY Times story.

[KoKo]

19. kick!

[whistle]

3. Riding the coattails of the Newsweek story....

...but wasn't the New York Post spread with full front page photo of Saddam in under-ware, plus several ages of photos inside. And that is a Ruppert Murdock publication as is the London Times.

[KoKo]

4. This article I posted is from the NYT's and not a tabloid.

:shrug:

[KennedyGuy]

6. You will notice that Drudgie-poo is showing the London paper

and not the Faux-news-Rupert Murdoch owned NY Post that has the exact same pic on its front page.

[KoKo]

8. No...I don't check out Drudge's sources because they are all leaked by

Rove. :D It just depends on which source Rove decides is in his best interest to put out. A tabloid one day, a more legit source the next, but in the end when he wants to cover up REAL NEWS that we need to know he stovepipes it to Drudge/Imus/Fox/NY Post and his other "favored" news sites.

[LuPeRcALiO]

9. that is completely horrible.

Training American soldiers to sadistically torture Afghani taxi-drivers for crimes committed by Bush family friends is about as sick as it gets.

[nashville_brook]

10. i got to page 7 and couldn't take anymore

it's bad enough what they are doing in afghanistan. i can all too easily imagine the dehumanization. i can imagine the soldiers going further and further beyond the limits of human behavior -- and being rewarded for it. their personaility is breakiing down as they think they are breaking the prisoner. soon they need the rush and approval and superiority the torture provides. it becomes a drug.

and sooner or later they are going to come home. still addicted to the SECRET rush of pain. he will be someone's neighbor. someone's brother. someone's husband, maybe. maybe he becomes one of the faceless men living under the tressle.

the trajectory we are on is militarizing *our* country, rather than de-militarizing theirs. private prison contractors are oput in front of this whole war. how will they meet their quarterly profit margins when The Hague (or god or someone) finally kicks us out of there.

i'll tell you - they are headed right back here to enjoy the booty of the new Patriot Act provisions. Secret Searches. no definition of terrorist -- except that they animal rights people and not the KKK, like you might think.

i feel so inseure.

[KoKo]

13. I have to hope they get on meds. Bush and the Conservative Jackals

have unleashed all the maddness and depravity that is normally held back for some folks by "social and cultural" intervention.

Turn a crazy like the ones running our government loose and we have folks who can do anything.

The article was so upsetting I couldn't finish it either. There are many Veterans groups out there working on this. We have to figure that they will be able to do something. I got an alert from Amnesty International a couple of weeks ago that "more abuses with pictures would be coming out soon." I guess this was what they were talking about.

I think there are many honest folks in our military who are horrified at this because it goes back to Vietnam. I don't know what we ordinary citizens can do, except keep the pressure on by passing this around (dreadful as it is) so that the average American sees what's being done "in our name, with our tax dollars." :-(

[ChiciB1]

11. What I Want To Know Is...

WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE???

Right now on MSNBC, some shill is talking about how WELL he's being treated!!

This world has gone MAD!!!

[KoKo]

14. Cables won't report it. They will go on about Saddam's underwear and

how terrible Newsweek is and the Brits are for publishing anything that is "harmful" to our spreading "Freedom and Democracy."

They don't have high numbers of viewers, anyway. I think more folks are getting news from the internet. Or, maybe they've just tuned it all out from every source. :shrug: Vet groups will keep on it though. And, we all can keep getting the info out. Eventually it will stick to them, what they've done.

[ChiciB1]

18. I Didn't Watch The Program Last Night But

the lead-ins to Aaron Brown's show last night was HOW the military who have served are now coming home to BILLS!

Who's helping them??? Meanwhile we see UNDERPANTS!

[EST]

12. I have been categorically opposed to the death penalty,

but this article has stirred a principle-shaking battle in my personal reality.

[Q]

15. I'm sorry...I know I'm supposed to 'support' the troops in order to...

...be considered a 'good' Democrat and American. But THIS is the stuff of brutal fascists. I don't care if they were ONLY FOLLOWING ORDERS or not. They are guilty of war crimes.

God help us...because we can't seem to help ourselves.

[KoKo]

16. kick.........

[killbotfactory]

17. ,Are we running a fucking inquizition?

"Most of the interrogators had believed Mr. Dilawar was an innocent man who simply drove his taxi past the American base at the wrong time."

Jesus christ...

The Bush gang are fucking insane