Dangerous Clowns (Streicher, Farah, Savage, Coulter, Limbaugh)

[Q]

May 20, 2005
Dangerous Clowns
By Pamela Troy

A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS


His blood carries not honor, and honesty, rather criminality, fraud, hypocrisy, lies, the lust for defilement, and the lust for murder ... a race that has drives toward the unnatural and toward criminality cannot recognize natural moral laws. -- Julius Streicher, on the Jews

"... the Democrats – far too many of them – are evil, pure and simple. They have no redeeming social value. They are outright traitors themselves, or apologists for treasonous behavior. They are enemies of the American people and the American way of life. -- Joseph Farah, "Baghdad Bonior," Worldnet Daily 10/8/02

"Liberalism is a mental disorder that has undermined our families, our society, and our national security … -- Michael Savage, Newsmax.com interview 2/1/03

Look up the name “Julius Streicher” in the index of most recent books on the Third Reich and you’re likely to be referred to one or two brief mentions. He was a lout whose anti-Semitic newspaper, Der Sturmer, was so crude that he’s sometimes called “Hitler’s pornographer.” He is usually described as a squat thug with a paltry talent for harnessing the combined power of ignorance and malice, someone who intelligent people could safely ignore with a contemptuous laugh. Many of those who watched the rise of the Third Reich as it happened weren’t that dismissive. In 1936 Time Magazine referred to him as "One of Nazi Germany’s Most Dangerous Clowns."

Hitler himself considered Streicher’s ability to mobilize the masses to the cause of Nazism invaluable and Himmler was quoted in Streicher’s newspaper Der Sturmer, "In times to come when the story of the reawakening of the German people is written, and when the next generation will be unable to understand how the German people could ever have been friendly with the Jews, it will be said that Julius Streicher and his weekly newspaper were responsible for a good part of the education about the enemy of mankind."

The tribunal at Nuremberg in 1945 agreed. Part of the indictment against Streicher read:
In the early days he was preaching persecution. As persecution took place he preached extermination and annihilation and, as millions of Jews were exterminated and annihilated, in the Ghettoes of the East, he cried out for more and more. The crime of Streicher is that he made these crimes possible, which they never would have been had it not been for him and for those like him.

For the past twenty years, Streicher’s voice has been most faithfully echoed in the pronouncements of people like Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter and countless other less well-known "clowns" who frequent cable TV, talk radio and the Internet. Like Streicher, they are often dismissed as so obviously ridiculous that they’re barely worth the attention of well-informed citizens. And while they are not anti-Semites and their rhetoric is unlikely to lead to the mass murder of those they target, it has, like Streicher’s, made mindless hatred not just acceptable in the minds of many people, but downright virtuous. There’s a saying about the sleep of reason and what it produces. For far too long, thinking Americans have treated the irrationality steadily bubbling up from the far right as if it were a harmless amusement, unlikely to impact ordinary citizens. We have been unwilling to look at the extent to which the mediums of right-wing talk radio and the Internet have popularized the agenda of influential people who are not stupid, but who are willing to foster and use stupidity and hatred as a means to an end.

http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/05/05/ana05015.html

[MARALE]

1. We are being persecuted

We are attacked every day. I do not dismiss this like a lot of people. These people have done a lot of damage to the democrats and we are now trying to fight it. This is very serious and I think is the main reason for the downfall of a lot of our democratic leaders.
I think we need to sue these people or get them arrested for slander. I totally agree with this article and am so glad you posted it!

[Q]

4. Yes...they have intentionally destroyed the reputation...

...and smeared the character of many Democrats and 'activists' on the Left. Their motive was simple: neutralize the opposition by using their RWing/corporate media networks to character assassinate anyone that gets in their way.

[MARALE]

16. Even if people take these people as entertainers

what they say does have an impact on people. They have been making a mockery of democrats for years. They do slander every day I don't know what to do about it. People are gulible and nowadays do not have the time that I do to look up the truth.

Example, my husband works with a guy who is a big Rush fan. When the war started, he listened to all of the hype and thought the war was a good thing. I said it is a bad idea and that they would not find any wmds. My husband did not believe me and started spewing the Rush reteric that he was getting at work. After a while he said "how did you know?" and then I expianed it to him. He would not believe me till he got proof.

[Stinky The Clown]

2. Don't lump all clowns in one heap

There are some clowns who won't laugh again until this bunch has the right to the name 'clown' taken from them forever.

[Q]

3. These are the propagandists behind...

...Bush's power. They make Democrats and Liberals the 'enemy of the state' while exempting themselves from the moral absolutes they demand of others.

And just like Julius Streicher...they should be put on trial when the truth finally comes out about their leader's war crimes and the willful destruction of the US government and our social infrastructure.

[Stinky The Clown]

5. I know who they are (and were) ..... and I agree with your post

and the points you make.

The clown thing I said was ..... well .... clowing. Its what clowns (used to) do.

Now we cry.

And fight.

[Q]

6. Clowning around?

Yes...I knew you were clowning around. I apologize for my recent loss of a sense of humor.

It's no longer just a 'conspiracy theory' from the 'loony left' that our government is under the control of fascists (and their enablers) attempting to destroy our country only to rebuild it in their image. The problem is that their plans don't include a vast majority of American citizens.

[Q]

7. Ashcroft to dissenters: "Your tactics only aid terrorists.."

One more excerpt from thsi great article:

"...The tactic of delegitimization promoted in Eric Heubeck’s piece has been echoed in Bush administration statements, most notably those made in the wake September 11th. One of the most well known of these is then Attorney General John Ashcroft’s comment at a press conference, in which he both implied that administration critics were irrational or dishonest, and equated dissent with giving aid and comfort to America’s enemies.

… to those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists, for they erode our national unity and diminish our resolve. They give ammunition to America’s enemies and pause to America’s friends. (December 6, 2001)

Even opposition within the context of an opposition party is increasingly depicted as illegitimate. Not content with control of both the Executive and Legislative branches, the Republican Party has attacked some of the most basic tools of dissent within government. The judicial filibuster has been denounced by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist as “radical. It is dangerous and it must be overcome.” This kind of language, the use of terms like “dangerous” and “radical” to describe a tactic that Republicans – including Frist -- have used in the past, should be at least startling to Americans. Unfortunately, the quality of modern political rhetoric has been so lowered that it doesn’t seem that unusual. Compared with some of the comments about Democrats and liberals heard regularly on Fox, CNN, and MSNBC, it seems downright benign.

If reasoned debate is eliminated as the way to deal with dissenters, even those who dissent as members of the opposition party within the halls of government, how does one respond to those who refuse to be silenced? How does one deal with the “problem” of those liberals and Democrats who are, with increasing frequency, being referred to as dangerous, radical, as traitors, lunatics, rabid dogs, and haters of America?



by Pamela Troy?© 2005
A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS

http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/05/05/ana05015.html


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The disturbing part of all of this is that SOME Democrats are also trying to shut down dissent.

[dmartinct]

8. Prosecutors file motion to open Rush Limbaugh's medical records

Prosecutors file motion to open Rush Limbaugh's medical records

WEST PALM BEACH – Prosecutors with the Palm Beach County State Attorney's Office have filed a motion to obtain conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh's medical records.

A hearing has been scheduled for 8:30 a.m. Monday in front of Palm Beach Circuit Judge Jeffrey Winikoff.


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/palmbeach/sfl-520limbaugh,0,1636422.story?coll=sfla-news-palm

[Q]

9. I'm not sure how this story relates...

...but I know that if it were anyone other than Rush...they would have been in jail by now. Rush the millionaire won't be treated like the common rabble that are considered guilty until proven innocent.

The relevant point is that Rush is a HATEMONGER who thinks that anyone (but him) that uses/abuses drugs should stay in prison for a very long time.

[dmartinct]

11. Could someone post this to breaking news?

I can't create posts yet, but I think many people will be interested in the news about "doctor shopping" Rush.

Thanks

[MARALE]

14. I thought I saw it a few days ago

in the LBN forum. I hope this goes somewhere, but I doubt it.

Welcome newbie!
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[Q]

10. And just when you thought it was safe to be a Democrat...

...and dissent against government policy:

"..Most rank-and-file Democrats, of course, are just as patriotic and zealous about vindicating our national honor as any Republican. But let's be honest: Cultural elites with influence in the party often give off more than a whiff of fashionable anti-Americanism. They tend to equate patriotism with jingoism, see America more as a global bully than as a victim of a terrorist conspiracy, haul out the tired Vietnam metaphor anytime U.S. troops encounter difficulty abroad, and are as hypercritical of America's faults as they are forgiving of those of our adversaries.

Take Iraq. It's one thing to say, as many thoughtful Democrats do, that the war in Iraq was a mistake. But it's quite another to depict it as the expression of a new U.S. imperialism, or as a Bush family vendetta, or as a plot to grab Middle East oil, or, most ludicrously of all, as a pretext to enrich Halliburton. What leftish elites smugly imagine is a sophisticated view of their country's flaws strikes much of America as a false and malicious cartoon. And while heartland voters may be too reluctant to hear reasoned criticism of U.S. policies, they are essentially right in believing that America has mostly been an indispensable force for good in the world. So let the glitterati in Hollywood and Cannes fawn over Michael Moore; Democrats should have no truck with the rancid anti-Americanism of the conspiracy-mongering left.

Will Marshall is president of the Progressive Policy Institute.

http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253055&kaid=127&subid=171

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It's not enough for the likes of Marshall to simply disagree with the anti-Iraq war protestors and the dissenters of Bush policy. He has to call them 'anti-American' and 'rancid'. Like his Necon counterparts...he has to make 'liberals' the enemy and dehumanize them.

[ladeuxiemevoiture]

12. The difference between then and now is popular misery.

Things are not as bad in the US now as they were in Weimar Germany. So these clowns entertain but don't really represent a threat in the same way as Streicher was.

[Q]

13. You call this 'entertainment'?

And no one is saying things are the exact same as they were in 'Weimar Germany'.

The point is that this type of state-sanctioned hatemongering CAN and does provoke violence against certain groups. As recently reported...some of these 'shock jocks' have even talked about killing liberals on their radio programs and in their books.

These are the same tactics used by the Brownshirts. No dissent allowed at the risk of being beaten, intimidated, arrested or character assassinated. All of this is being done to protect the CRIMINALS controlling our government.

[ladeuxiemevoiture]

15. Don't get me wrong - those people all suck!

You're right on that! EOM

[Q]

17. Another point is that they 'chill' political discussion...

...and debate about the issues in the public forum.

How many Americans won't even touch issues like election fraud or the illegal Iraq 'war' because they don't want to be caled 'anti-American' or conspiracy nuts?

This is one of the ways that they frame the debate...by first neutralizing their opponents with smears and lies. Their opponents spend so much time defending themselves that they're never able to get out their own message.

[ladeuxiemevoiture]

19. Exactly, because the MSM markets what sells - the lowest common denominato

they excuse their prostitution by saying things like, "this is a capitalist system, and whatever sells is what we are going to offer." Ergo, part-time comediennes/full-time hatemongers like Coulter get airplay while serious examination of Iraq makes page 4.

[Nikki Stone 1]

18. Recommended

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