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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:18 PM
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Frist and Rev Harry Jackson - OMG
Edited on Thu May-19-05 08:55 PM by cyberpj
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:19 PM
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1. Frist was just on cspan surrounded by blacks and now
Edited on Thu May-19-05 08:57 PM by cyberpj
the Rev is going to take questions. Why?
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:20 PM
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3. "A moral righteous agenda must lead the way."
"The parties must fight for our vote."
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:56 PM
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19. -
Edited on Thu May-19-05 08:56 PM by cyberpj
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:52 PM
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27. Power
Frist is definitely running now in 2008. He's wanting the nominiation and he's a Bush lapdog. So he's starting early to cater to the black church's. Why oh why? *sigh* Good luck with 2006. This is why I'm hopeless.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:20 PM
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2. I've been flipping back and forth. I have no desire to watch Frist.
I check every now and again to see if these idiots are still going at it.
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:22 PM
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4. I guess Blacks are for sale again
I thouight that Lincoln had outlawed their sale but then you hear of this and you see Powell and Rice and you realize that slavery may not have ended after all.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:53 PM
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28. Once someone called in Malloy
Edited on Thu May-19-05 09:53 PM by FreedomAngel82
late last month and was saying in Ohio the republicans would give the black church's money for their votes. I'm sure this is true with this group.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:24 PM
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5. Ohhhhhhh,........they're there to support Justice Brown.
Bishop Harry Jackson now.

All quotes here, I swear!!!

We're here to declare a moral imperative to the nation.

I'm pro-judge Brown and pro-the right people for those office.

I'm not going to get into politics here -----the right people in the right chairs to employ the laws of our land.

There's an agenda contrary to the moral interest of the average American.

"We want up or down on Janice Brown" all chanting it.

Called the High Impact something or other

(I'm typing as I'm watching, this is just unreal.)

www.himpactus.com ?
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:25 PM
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6. WOW! I wonder how new this group (site) is?



Bishop Harry R. Jackson is the Founder and Chairman of the High Impact Leadership Coalition. He has declared that the Church and her leaders must lead the way to protect America's moral compass and heal our nation. "The High Impact Leadership Coalition is a grassroots, non profit organization founded to help educate and empower the church, community, and political leaders across America regarding moral values." Harry Jackson is Senior Pastor of Hope Christian Church in the Washington, DC area and serves a regional Bishop in FOIC organization. He has authored several books including High Impact African-American Churches. He earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in English from prestigious Williams College and a Masters of Business Administration from Harvard Business School. His secular work experience includes positions in several Fortune 500 companies.

"There is a new Black church. High-impact African-American churches are creating high-impact leaders, developing high-impact congregations that are changing their communities." -Harry Jackson

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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:29 PM
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10. Here's another site talking about Jackson:
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 11:32 PM
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33. Things that make you go hmmm...
If you click on www.himpactus.com you will find that "Bishop Harry R. Jackson" is "the Founder and Chairman of the High Impact Leadership Coalition."

Here is the whois info for that domain. If you do a reverse lookup on 67.63.134.100, which is the IP address for himpactus.com, you'll find a list of 24 domains which are all hosted at that IP address.

The fact that a number of domains are hosted on the same IP doesn't necessarily mean that there is any relationship between those domains other than that they are using the same hosting service. But in this case a number of them (and possibly all them) are definitely related.

I won't go into all of the details, I haven't studied them that closely yet myself and all of you are as capable at clicking and reading as I am. But some things stand out.

For one thing, all or most of them seem to be related to a church or ministry of one kind or another and the same addresses, contact emails etc. keep popping up. I'm guessing that at least some of these domains are probably simply fronts that consist of little more than a website. However, I can't prove that at present.

The whois for himpactus.com shows administrative and technical contact email addresses with the domain nurevelation.com, which is itself one of the 24 listed domains.

This same domain shows up in email addresses in a number of the domains listed. The whois for nurevelation.com shows the name "Odoom, T. Naomie" as the administrative and technical contact for that domain. Variations on that name show up on a number of the domains.

I believe that "T. Naomie Odoom" is the wife of This man, John Odoom, who is running for North Carolina State Senate. He's a black Republican with a very rightwing agenda. He has a wife named Naomie Odoom, He's a partner with NuRevelation, Inc, and he's a member of Crossroads Fellowship (2 of the listed domains are crfmissions.com and crfmissions.org). - At the start of this paragraph I said I "believe" that she is his wife. I take that back, I'm positive that she is, there're too many coincidences.

There is probably a lot more to be dug up regarding these domains but the little bit I've found is certainly interesting. A black "bishop" professing conservative religious and political beliefs, who has political connections with a powerful senator, and who is also connected through various "church groups" with a conservative black NC senatorial candidate.

Like I said, things that make you go hmmm...
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:24 AM
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34. Kick
:kick:
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 10:41 AM
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35. HI there! Thanks for you excellent post - I reposted it on it's own
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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:25 PM
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7. Its this asshole - who should lose his churchs tax-exempt status
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:26 PM
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8. Absolutely unreal. nt.
Edited on Thu May-19-05 08:28 PM by cyberpj
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:28 PM
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9. The problem with the "racism" card
They're sticking up for Brown because she's an African-American. They're accusing the left of things like "why are they afraid of having an African-American woman on the bench?" They've generalized every concern and criticism of her into that ONE particular characteristic of hers - that she HAPPENS to be African-American.

GGGrrrrr...

It's not about her being an African-American. No one in senate cares whether she's an African-American or not.

It's about her views, her writings, her statements, her decisions and her worldview.

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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:31 PM
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11. Right.
Using the black issue when the issue is beliefs.

I think this shows through loud and clear and now they're just looking ridiculous!

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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:32 PM
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12. To paraphrase an old line . . .
They say we oppose Janice Rogers Brown because she's black when the truth is that's the ONLY thing we like about her.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:52 PM
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16. LOVE THAT ONE. Dems should use it! nt.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:35 PM
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14. I wonder if any of them has asked her if she's for affirm action,
that should shut them up. let them explain that to their congregation.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:57 PM
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21. The GOP blocked Bill Lann Lee
You remember Bill Lann Lee, don't you? The NAACP lawyer whom the Republicans wouldn't confirm to the Clinton Justice Department. I think Lee served in an "acting" capacity for an indefinite period of time.

Anyway, since Lee was Asian American AND had worked for the NAACP, I don't think the GOP had better mince around playing the race card.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:54 PM
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29. I guess they forgot
who gave them the right to vote (Johnson in 1965).
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:34 PM
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13. see Yahoo story
The day of choreographed debate on the floor unfolded as compromise-minded senators negotiated in privately in the office of Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), R-Ariz., and leaders of both parties held dueling staged-for-television events designed to court black voters.

"Why are they afraid to put a black woman on the court?" asked Bishop Harry Jackson, chairman of a group of black pastors, standing next to Majority Leader Bill Frist at a news conference outside the Capitol. Referring to Janice Rogers Brown, a California Supreme Court judge whom Bush has named to the federal appeals court, he called her "not only a legal hero for black America, she is a legal hero for all America."

Frist, R-Tenn., did not mention Brown's race in his own remarks. He said Democratic treatment of her nomination was "unnecessary, uncivil. It is injustice. I pledge to you here today that I will do everything in my power to see that it stops."

He made his comments after members of the
Congressional Black Caucus said he had declined to meet with them to discuss the issue. An aide said Frist was speaking on the Senate floor at the time. The Democratic lawmakers proceeded to a news conference where they released a letter to the Tennessee Republican arguing that his call for a partial ban on judicial filibusters "would be particularly offensive to people of color."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050519/ap_on_go_co/filibuster_fight
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:38 PM
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15. No mention of the black ministers who spoke out AGAINST nuclear
option today and came out against Janice Rogers Brown and the other filibustered nominees.

Sounds like the only black people of faith who have an opinion on this issue are on Frist's side.

Hmmm.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:52 PM
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17. Well those that hate gays and love poverty at least. nt
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:57 PM
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30. Of course
No surprise there. I wonder if Jesse Jackson is going to be pumping up Frist again like he did with Terri Schavio.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:54 PM
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18. Ahhh.... Thank you.
I thought it was live but it was a reply.

And in response to Congressional Black Caucus activity.

Man, you got to give it to them for quickness though.

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DawnneOBTS Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:57 PM
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20. The Black Caucus is against her...
Edited on Thu May-19-05 09:01 PM by DawnneOBTS
They are not stupid. The majority of African-Americans know that she is a puppet of Chimpy and his friends. She's against most of the instututions that African-Americans value. Remember: Condoliar Rice LEFT her roots in Alabama for the great red state of Colorado, not to return there either except when "politically" necessary. Shows how much she actually cares/cared about her roots.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:00 PM
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31. Yep
Wasn't her father against a lot of political issues that black people cared about? All Rice cares about is being Bush's lapdog and getting money. If she really cared about her people she would try sometime not lying. But then again she's a true neocon so expecting that is like expecting Bush to be impeached for his war crimes by the republicans.
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:00 PM
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22. just once
I'd like to see a news story about why the dems want to block her.
All the Corporate press reports is that she's Shrubs girl. How about reporting that she wants to do away with the 40 hour week and the child labor laws? Huh?
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:06 PM
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24. I think they're still too timid.
Too timid to say anything bad about any black person.

You're right though. It's time to get over that and really start talking about people's views and values and forget about their color.

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:03 PM
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23. Fucking demagogue
Frist is a more repulsive even than Bush*, if that's possible
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:48 PM
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25. Knowing the history of this right wing (no lie theft destruction trick is
dirty enough for the citizens of this country and the Middle East and other select earth reource countries) - you must now ask what this person or his church is receiving in $$$$$$$$?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:50 PM
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26. Jackson is another grifting, tax-chiseling, pulpit-dwelling asshole
a two-bit shill
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:36 PM
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32. who is running a tax-free organization espousing political views! nt.
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