Today my millionaire boss received his TAX Refund!!!!!!!!!

[NoSheep]

The same millionaire boss who refuses to pay his share of my employment taxes so he just calls me an independent contractor. I went to get our mail and there it was. I couldn't let the opportunity pass without making some kind of statement. I handed it to him and said:
"Here's your check from George Bush thanking you for your vote"

He just chuckled and said: "That's why I like the 'ol boy!"

I could have spit in his face.
:nuke: :grr:

[CBHagman]

1. I'm sorry you work with/for that thing.

Here's hoping you get into a much better situation and that that guy will have to eat his words on toast, and soon.

[demnan]

2. No shame

They just enjoy annoying you.

[NoSheep]

6. I wish I didn't need my job so bad. I would have had to remind him of all

the folks in Iraq who are dying so his good 'ol boy can be the president and give him a fat refund.

[swimmernsecretsea]

3. ...and that's why the 'old boy' likes him back...

I think I'm going to be ill.

[JNelson6563]

4. You shoulda called it "bribe money"

and told him that oughta keep him turning a blind eye to the disaster that is this Admin for a while longer eh? Toss in a "so how much did you cost them?" for shits and giggles and then come to DU to pass the hat cause you got fired.

:toast:

Julie

[RobertSeattle]

5. Modern "Republicanism" is just moral justification for greed

I'm sure the same jerk would say it is "buying" votes when Democrats get money for anti-poverty programs.

[kodi]

30. in the words of John Kenneth Galbraith

who wrote that "modern conservatives are engaged in that hoariest of philosophical exercises -- the search for a moral justification for selfishness."

Their apotheosis of unregulated markets and low taxes for the wealthy allows the rich to enrich themselves further while claiming that a rising tide raises all boats. Unfortunately, in our society today not everyone has a yacht, or even a life raft.

That truth is inconvenient, so the radical right ignores it.

[Massacure]

32. Modern Republicanism is dead.

The republicans have turned from socially liberal and financially responsable to social fascists and tax-break, spend, then bankrupt liberals.

"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes that you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."

- Dwight D. Eisenhower

[BR_Parkway]

7. Most states have a little financial bonus for the whistleblower who

turns in various types of tax cheats. Odds are pretty damn good you're not an independent contractor, when they find something like that, they go back 3 years - and every time they find something, they keep going back 3 years.

With all the interest and penalties, plus the taxes due - if you get 10%, you'd likely have a nice check yourself.

[Kerrytravelers]

11. Very good isea.

[NoSheep]

12. I contacted the IRS last Thursday. They told me he will have to be

responsible ultimately. So when I quit, I'm gonna burn him good. I figure it will be 6-7 thousand dollars! I'm counting the minutes til I leave! Right now I'm counting the pennies for groceries!
:D

[ohtransplant]

16. If you haven't already done it, file IRS Form SS-8. n/t

[NoSheep]

18. Yes. This is what they recommended. I will have to wait until I leave the

job, which thankfully, looks like it may be only a month or so.

[ohtransplant]

20. When you leave,

Make sure you've been fully paid before you pull the trigger on this.

Make sure you have any records that demonstrate you should have been considered an employee. Don't rely on your "employer" to volunteer anything.

[haroldgiowa]

23. Independant contractors

My son in law was an "independent contractor", so said his employer when it came to W2 time. My daughter turned them in. She was told that if you don't set your own hours, you are not an "independent contractor". THere are many other items that I can't recall made him not an "independent contractor". One however was did he supply his own equipment to do the job.

[sendero]

24. And if you are..

.... an independent contractor, he will have to issue a 1099 against your SSN or Federal Tax Id, or EIN.

Basically, somebody has to pay the tax.

[hecate77]

31. Even 1099 has a time limit on it for a given employer

These days, if you work for one place full time on a 1099, you have to either become an employee after about 14 months, or you have to move on. This has been put in place to keep companies from having essentially full time, long-term employees on 'independent contractor' status and hence avoid paying taxes.

The way around all this is, of course, to set up an LLC, which can be done in most states. In that case, you are paid by the contract, to your LLC. As a partner in the LLC, all your money is in the form of partner draws, which is just like profit, so you do not owe any self-employment taxes on it (No social security). This automatically saves you about 15% off the top. However, you cannot be required to keep steady hours, nor may you be provided with office space akin to that of a regular employee. The rules are fairly strong, and it sounds like this guy is violating them big time. You might also report him for violation of those laws if you have been there for longer and 15 months or so.

Anything that looks and smells like full-time employee, is considered so by the government, and, except for short term situations, it is illegal to try to use 1099 payment to get around the taxes and benefits paid for full-time regular employees.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

8. May I have a question?

WHY did you hand him the check AT ALL.

A fireplace would seem a much more proper destination.

[NoSheep]

9. OOOoooooohhhhhhh. You're good!

:evilgrin:

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

14. There's always next year. (nt)

[Kerrytravelers]

10. The day you can finally quit,

let him know it was the innocent children and civilians in Iraq who are really paying for his tax return. Follow that up by handing him graphic pictures.

Don't count on him being a reference.



In the mean time, contact the local recruiters and give them his information and/or the information of his children or any other family members you know about. He won't ever have to know it was you who made the contact, but he should appreciate it since he so believes in this war.

[NoSheep]

13. Hey! That's a great idea!

[havocmom]

15. IRS has pretty specific conditions which define independent contractors

You might wanna talk to them about that. I had a boss like that once. The IRS told her she was full of shit. If she decided the pay rate, provides the place, equipment, so on, she is an employer. She (and her freep, tax evading husband) got busted.

Get accurate up to date info and bust his ass if need be.

He got a refund, sticky you with the full 15%+ SS, probably doesn't pay workers comp or unemployment insurance and all you get is a huge national deficit to pay off and a pResident who is spending the SS trust fund and leaving a box of IOUs...

Call the IRS

[NoSheep]

19. I'm going to get him. I have to. I am not a vindictive type person but

I've had enough of these pigs making us pay for their lifestyle, their lies, their power mongering and wars for their own profit. I'm going to take back what he has stolen from me. Fuck his reference.

[havocmom]

21. Might also look into possible rewards if the IRS decides he is indeed a

tax cheat. Also look into your state laws RE workers comp/nemployment.

Get another job lined up first ;)

[seg4527]

17. I got my 400 dollars saturday

and was damn happy. </sarcasm>

[trogdor]

22. You should ask him...

...how many jobs he created with his share of the tax cuts.

[rinsd]

25. Did you sign a contract?

What type of work do you perform?

Are you onsite at all times?

These things are key if you decide to pursue this.

[NoSheep]

27. Yes I did sign a contract. But it is dead clear I am not an independent

contractor. I don't see how the contract could be enforced. I basically signed it under duress (work for him or starve). I am his office manager-bookkeeper-secretary-and I run allthe parts of the mail order business he has. He just talks on the phone all day and renovates his house with the profits from this business. x(

[rinsd]

29. So you're paid a salary with no taxes taken out?

I would defnitely have a lawyer look at your contract if at al possible. In the contract he'll nbeed things really spelling out what you are being contracted for etc. The fact that you;re an in office employee doing things that are likely out of the scope of your contract would likely invalidate his claims of your independence. But again, talk to a lawyer.

"I don't see how the contract could be enforced. I basically signed it under duress (work for him or starve)."

It sounds harsh but this fact is immaterial unless he had you sign the contract after you were in his employ.

[ReadTomPaine]

26. Report him to the IRS

Sit back, and enjoy his audit.

On edit - looks like someone up thread beat me to this advice ;)

RTP

[MsTryska]

28. hell i'm no millionaire.....

but i actually liked dubya for a split second the day i got my tax refund.



i have the good sense to feel guilty about it now, but i can't pretend the feeling wasn't there.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

33. At Least the Fucker's Rational

I can at least wrap my mind around why millionaires would want to vote for the Republicans.

It's the working class folks, and non-rich gays and people of color who blow my mind when they vote for Republicans.

DTH

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[DoveTurnedHawk]

36. WTF Are You Talking About?

I cannot understand non-rich gay folks and people of color who would vote Republican. In contrast, I could perhaps understand it (even if I would disagree with it) if rich gay folks or rich people of color decided to vote their pocketbook over their real interests by voting Republican.

Nice screen name, by the way. It's so very blatant.

:eyes:

DTH

[Vickers]

37. Your reading comprehension is remarkable

:eyes:

[Mz Pip]

34. AND MY SON

who is a second year teacher in an inner city school had to pay extra. It wasn't much more than already had been deducted from his check, but he still had to write the IRS an additional check. He makes about $35,000 a year and here in California that is barely enough to live on.

I suppose I could also point out that he doesn't "like the 'ol boy" one bit.

Mz Pip
:dem: