Google Howard Dean and Find Him MIA

[The Political Eye]

Google Howard Dean, in quotes, and then select news and sort by date. The bottom line, Dean is MIA. Where is Waldo? I mean Howard.

Bolton, the filibuster, Iraq?

I thought he would be great but now I can’t even find him.

Howard Dean where are you?

[Jacobin]

1. That's pretty funny

I saw him a couple of months ago, in MISSISSIPPI, talking to an overflow crowd, encouraging them, enlightening them, telling them to organize, HELPING them to organize and raise money....$100,000 that night.

He was awesome.

He has been raising money and building the base from the ground up....not sexy, not fun, no limo rides, no beltway parties, no corporate fucks bribing him with 'campaign contribution'.

Doing the people's work.

THAT's where the fuck he is.

Any more questions?

[The Political Eye]

2. Don't kid yourself

I am serious. Google him, sort it by news and date

See for yourself

[Jacobin]

6. Dude.

I was there.

Fuck google

[LandOLincoln]

17. Riiight. So you think the MSM is gonna cover Howard?

Unless he screams again, of course. They'd cover that in a hot minute.

[MaineDem]

3. He's been in Australia and tonight I think he's in Oklahoma

This weekend he'll be in Massachusetts.

And that's without looking it up.

[hippiechick]

4. Wow, such a Howard hater you had to post this in 2 forums ...

:freak:

[The Political Eye]

5. No a concerned Democrat

[ProudToBeLiberal]

7. no an uninformed post. nt

[The Political Eye]

8. How am I uninformed?

[Name removed]

10. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[The Political Eye]

14. I must be missing something

What hidden agenda?

I just want the leader of the Democratic Party to be visible during this fight over Bolton, the filibuster, Iraq.

[democracyindanger]

9. He's the head of the DNC

His role isn't supposed to be in front the cameras every chance he gets. How often did you see Terry McAuliffe in the press? Not often.

[The Political Eye]

11. Are you kidding me?

We have huge poilitcal issues before the country and I never hear his name or his voice.

Harry Reid is carrying all the water.

Why is Howard so quiet right now?

[democracyindanger]

15. No, I'm not.

And I repeat: He's the head of the DNC. It's not his role to be the face of the party. On occassion, he will be. But elected representatives like Reid are the main conduits of public statements on issues. The DNC Chair works with the various state parties, among other groups, organizing and fundraising.

[Todd B]

12. Um, don't know where you're searching:

Not that it's any indication, but if you do a search for Howard Dean you get 2,700 matches.

Don't worry - he is out building Democratic state parties (he'll be speaking in MA soon, yay!). Just because he's not on the news show every day, doesn't mean he's not busy.

Besides, you really think that pathetic excuse of a media we have in America has enough time to cover Howard Dean with all the Michael Jackson and Runaway Bride hoopla happening?

[Skip Intro]

13. Can I ask you an unrelated question?

[The Political Eye]

16. What's your question?

[Skip Intro]

19. Why hide your profile?

[Skip Intro]

36. unhid now

[ProudToBeLiberal]

18. If you're not willing to google I'll be your mommy and do it for you.

http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=9647

http://www.dailytrojan.com/main.cfm?include=detail&storyid=929444

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-04-14-dean-inside_x.htm

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascitystar/news/politics/11457123.htm

http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/m-news+article+storyid-9595-PHPSESSID-58c3c6c5a86429d171bc891e0039252d.html

____________
if you want me to be your daddy, well then we have to make a special arrangement.

[The Political Eye]

21. Your making my point

Look at the dates on those links

They are weeks old!

I just want someone to fight for the party!

If not dean, they who?

[ProudToBeLiberal]

24. that wasn't your parameters

but if you want to know where he was TODAY. then look at the post below.

[paineinthearse]

20. At 2:30PM this afternoon he was on a teleconference with Ted Kennedy

and 500 Dems.

I don't know where he is at the moment, but this Saturday he will be speaking at the Mass Dem State convention.

Grow up!

[The Political Eye]

23. No one else sees this issue?

Am I alone here?

[LittleClarkie]

34. Yep

All alone.

[LandOLincoln]

37. Yes. Moreover, I call bullshit

and flamebait.

[LittleClarkie]

40. I do more than call it

I alert it too.

[LandOLincoln]

44. You too? ;-) n/t

[Coloradan4Truth]

43. I think Ed Schultz would agree with you....

this was the topic of a rant of his today.

[hippiechick]

22. Uhm, and exactly what have YOU done about all the Bush-trocities ?

.... aside from googling and pointing fingers at Dean ?

Written any letters ?
Gone to any meetings ?
Spoken to any friends/family/neighbors/co=workers ?
Organized a group of any kind ?


:shrug: I didn't think so.

[ChiciB1]

25. Considering The Fact That Dean

wasn't actually embraced with open arms during the Primaries, I think he is doing good old fashioned "grass roots" work. Something like the Repukes do. A little behind the scenes networking, building bridges and getting connected.

Why don't we just give him a little time. It's waaaaaaay too soon to be kicking the guy around. Carville & Begalla and the rest of that gang didn't actually want him around in any shape or form. It's probably hard making head-way when you know a lot of the BIG name Dems aren't really thrilled with you.

I have to respect him for hanging in there, and I also think he has a lot of Moxie. Until you see actual unraveling, or if 2006 turns into a complete bust, perhaps it would be best to put on the brakes for a while.

[Zensea]

26. The real bottom line in my opinion

is that this is flamebait

[ProudToBeLiberal]

27. yup, I mean he's ignoring our responses and just charging along

I mean if he wants a honest discussion, the tone he sets up is begging for a flamefest.

[kevsand]

28. Absolutely.

The OP seems to be deliberately ignoring the responses even as he replies.

[The Political Eye]

29. It is not bait

I am a life long democrat who is worried that we don't have enough forceful spokespeople.

I had the idea to post tonight after listening to Ed Schultz on radio in Boston today.

His worry that Dean is being too quiet hit a cord with me.

[kevsand]

30. Then please address the responses.

There's a legitimate question here of the proper role of the DNC head versus the elected leadership in Congress and elsewhere. You haven't addressed that. There's quite a bit of evidence of ongoing worthy activity on Dean's part. You haven't addressed that. You can still save this, if you want.

[The Political Eye]

35. I am quite surprised

that more folks don't see his lack of visibility as an issue.

We have what might be the biggest change in Senate rules in our lifetimes and I can't think of one time I have seen Dean weight in on it?

[LittleClarkie]

45. He's traveling the states, building grassroots

I don't need to hear from the guy on every issue. I'd rather he stayed focused.

Who ever gave a shit when McAullife opened his mouth on issue. I can't even tell you how many times I ever heard he said something. He probably did, but who gave a damn really.

Unless I see evidence that Dean is somewhere eating bon bons, I'm not concerned. He's doing what he said he would. Building grassroots and not conceding the South. Nuff said.

[kevsand]

46. There are some possible reasons for that.

Some people have argued that this isn't necessarily the proper role of the DNC chair. I don't know yet where I stand on that one.

A lot of people think he is talking about stuff, but being ignored by the MSM. Here's another whole thread on today's radio show:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1779786#1779793

[Zensea]

47. Let me help you understand

Maybe you haven't been around DU that long but if you had, you'd know that this point you're raising has been raised before and has been raised by folk who were definitely posting flamebait or what turned into flamebait anyway.
That doesn't mean that is your intention even if I made that crack about it before. But if you don't want your question to be considered flamebait you'll probably have to engage a little more in acknowledging people's responses regarding what he has been doing recently whether it has made google news or not.


The specific question about the Senate rules is that maybe Dean feels it's up to the Democratic senators to make a stink about it, not him.
So he expresses his opinion on it, so what?
Dean doesn't have to express his opinion on every single issue now does he?

I just heard a speech of his in front of the ACLU from only a week ago that was on a link I picked up on the internet on an NPR station. The week before that I saw a video that was on the website of a newspaper in Naples Florida.

The gist I got from both speeches is that he's thinking about and discussing long term strategies in relation to the 2006 and 2008 elections with people that are going to run in them.

Good enough for me.
One thing at a time.

[The Political Eye]

52. If not this issue than what?

Quote "The specific question about the Senate rules is that maybe Dean feels it's up to the Democratic senators to make a stink about it, not him.
So he expresses his opinion on it, so what?"

So what? We need voices and as the head of the DNC, his should be one.

[Zensea]

57. I listed some in the rest of my post

Your asking the question then what, when I listed what he was doing and that I thought that it was fine with me makes me inclined to my original assessment.

Do you think that Democratic members of the House of Representatives should be speaking up about the Senate rules?

I don't particularly or at least I don't think they have any duty to do so. Same goes for Dean.
What if he did speak up? I'd bet a bunch of Senator's would think he was stepping on their business when he shouldn't be.

[Todd B]

33. Howard Dean builds the party, he doesn't make/vote on policy.

Howard Dean's job isn't to make policy - that is for the Senate and Congress to do.

Howard Dean's job is to build up the Democratic Party and elect more Democrats in to office. How do you know he hasn't been addressing these issues whereever he goes locally.

Just because he isn't on television every day, doesn't mean he is too quiet.

[The Political Eye]

42. I see it differently

As we reach the critical point with the issue of the filibuster, which is in fact only a prelude to Bush getting an extreme conservative on the Supreme court, I would hope for every elected Democrat and Dean to be as visible as possible.

[LandOLincoln]

41. A. That would be "chord."

B. This issue has been dealt with already. Do a DU search on "Ed Schultz" and see what you get.

C. Once again, I call flamebait.

[LittleClarkie]

31. So the revolution won't be televised

Whoopie ding dong.

Not being covered doesn't mean he's not working.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

32. OMG!!! I CANNOT BELIEVE IT!!!

Hey you defended Dean for once :P

[LittleClarkie]

39. Shows how much you pay attention

:D

I defend Dean quite alot, actually. Esp. when he's being misrepresented as he was in regard to his Iraq stance. And he's my DNC Chair, so I rather need for him to succeed. Defending Dean isn't just for Deaniacs anymore.

What I was doing earlier in another thread, discussing the last election, is more a matter of opinion about what happened than a criticism of Dean or anyone else. The worst I could say was that he and his supporters needed experience. Dean said as much on MTP, that he had learned from the campaign and wouldn't make the same mistakes next time.

I can defend Clark too. Wanna see?

[kevsand]

48. I've seen it.

Remind me never to piss you off. ;-)

[Name removed]

38. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[The Political Eye]

49. Howard is covering the Massachusetts Gov, Race

<snip> from the Globe 5/10

Howard Dean, the former presidential contender and current Democratic National Committee chairman, yesterday warned Massachusetts gubernatorial candidates to avoid a ''scorched earth" primary that could destroy the party's chances of regaining the state's top office for the first time in 16 years.

I want the filibuster and Iraq to be his focus.

[LittleClarkie]

51. Sorry. Grassroots are his focus

And there are millions of folks, each with their own take on what he should be focusing on. He can't please them all. Nor do I want him to try. He's the grassroots guy. He'll get us organized so we can wrestle power away from these bastards.

Shhh. He's workin'. Do not disturb.

[The Political Eye]

50. Where's a recent link for Dean on the Filibuster?

[democracyindanger]

53. DNC website

http://www.democrats.org/specialreports/nuclear_option/index.html

On the right side is a multimedia link entitled "Gov. Howard Dean speaks about the nuclear option." The link is dated 5/2.

Look, I enjoy listening to Schultz, too. Doesn't mean he's 100% right all the time.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

54. for the last time, I will be your mommy again. link inside

http://www.democrats.org/news/200505090003.html

This is from Dean himself

date may 9th

[The Political Eye]

56. So the average perosn has to go to a DNC web site?

I hope you or I could find one public news outlet that has Dean ccomment on the filibuister?

[The Political Eye]

58. Sorry about that spelling

[ProudToBeLiberal]

59. omg you just prove my point of just brushing the argument aside

you charging into the woods, with your head down with no care in the world. Look at other people posts. Everytime I refute your claim you make a new premise. WTF IS THAT?

[The Political Eye]

61. Where is a current Dean link for the filibuster?

I would hope to see, love to see a current NYT, WAPost, LATimes. etc, link for Dean speaking out on the filibuster.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

64. wtf you change the premise AGAIN

Now it has to be from the NYT, or Latimes. You just proved my point that this is flamebait. You're constantly looking for a fight instead of the answer.

[LittleClarkie]

65. We have other people for that, like Byrd

He's doing what he's good at, grassroots.

Deal. with. it.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

60. Pick a premise

First you accused that Dean isn't getting into the public eye. Other posters and I refute this. Then you make the claim that the dates are weeks old. We come up with articles that are 1-2 days old. Then you say that he isn't talking about the filibuster. We come up proof that he is talking about the filibuster. But then you change the premise by saying that it's from the DNC website. PICK A PREMISE AND STICK WITH IT. Obviously this is flamebait. Everytime we refute your argument instead of addressing our argument you change the premise. WTF? Also what Dean said about the filibuster was in a PRESS RELEASE. News outlet have the option of picking it up. But they didn't. Again couple posters addressed the situation with the media.

[NMDemDist2]

68. I think the OP has a point. We need all our leaders talking about

what the Repubs are shoving down our throats

I must also say he has defended himself quite well against a large number of posters who leapt to defend Dr. Dean.

I doubt anyone would say that Dr. Dean is not working hard at what is his main function, running the DNC organization. And the OP has gotten lots of links for Dr.Dean's activities.

However, I too would like to see him (Dean) make the rounds of the Sunday shows on some of the issues the Dems are fighting for in Congress.

I think Dr. Dean is every effective as a spokesman for our concerns and wish he'd be a little more high profile.

[The Political Eye]

74. I thought I might be losing my mind?

What does OP mean?

I never did impugn his efforts at the DNC.

I have a person staying with me from Europe and I mentioned this issue to them tonight before making my first post. They also remarked how Dean recently seemed almost invisible.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

55. OP you there?

http://www.democrats.org/news/200505090003.html

[Mich Otter]

62. Smart Leadership isn't always on the Front Page

A smart leader is usually behind the scenes getting the work done instead of having press conferences. It is no big deal that Dean isn't in the news. He will get a lot more good accomplished by talking to the people who are working for the party instead of talking to the poodle press.
I have no doubt that Dean is working the deals and lining up the people who work their asses off when the time comes to get the work done.

[The Political Eye]

66. The Supreme Court is on the line!

We are about to see the filibuster lost and then Bush will nominate anyone he chooses and we are working behind the scenes?

[Zensea]

67. And how is Dean speaking up going to stop any of that?

?

Those senators are going to vote based on someting other than Dean making the front page.

[The Political Eye]

70. Is that what we've come to as Democrats?

Not speaking up because it might not make a diffrence?

[ProudToBeLiberal]

73. nope you're missing the point

You're assuming that the only effective way to do things is speaking up, but that's not true. For example take example the chief of staff of a senator. Even though he isn't prevalent in the media spotlight he is working behind the scenes. Just because you're not in the spotlight doesn't mean he's not working for change.

[Beacho]

63. I don't WANT Dean in front of the cameras

I want him doing what he IS doing, building the party from the ground up.


I want a general, not a camera whore.

As for saying Reid is carrying all the water, that's what he's supposed to do.

Elected Dems make comments on policy and issues, party officers work to get dems elected

'nuff said

[Beacho]

69. Hmmm SC? Filibuster Rule? Dean Or Reid?

So who should be the front man for that one?

The Chair of the national party organization?

Or the MINORITY LEADER OF THE SENATE!!!!!


Now you're just being daft

[The Political Eye]

71. It's not one or the other! It's both!

[ProudToBeLiberal]

75. Each has it's realm

For example DSCC works in recruiting Senators, DGA works with Democratic governors, DNC works with organization. It's like saying that the Secretary of Defense should speak about policies that has to do with the Secretary of Agriculture, which doesn't make sense.

[The Political Eye]

77. His influence is not that limited

[ProudToBeLiberal]

81. again you changed the premise. stick with one nt

[Beacho]

72. Read post #63

If the press even gave Dean a minute, the story would be about Dean and not what he's talking about it.

I think he knows this and it's smart to actually DO something, rather than waste time and effort on a newscycle.


Now lets talk about Deans awesome, asskicking work he's done on giving our party back to the rank and file.

What say you?

[The Political Eye]

76. What do I say?

Save the filibuster and help influence the choice of the next Supreme Court Justice

[ProudToBeLiberal]

78. You didn't address his concern

again you brushed it aside.

[AntiCoup2K4]

79. Hey whatever happenned to that Fearnofuckwhat'shisname who used to be here

...all the time.

Anybody heard from him lately?

Just wondering......

[snowbear]

80. How are you Googling him? There's a LOT....

..of current articles! :o

Don't just hit Google alone.

--> Go to Google, then click on "News" and THEN type in Howard Dean.

You can sort out the 2,700 most recent articles either by relevance, or by date.

Looks like he's staying pretty busy to me.. :shrug:

[Moderator]

82. Locking, I came in to clean up the Personal Attacks and they were

numerous enough to constitute a flame war.

Thank you for your understanding.