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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:11 PM
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Bush's College Prof remembers him hating FDR, New Deal, SEC, FTC
...and all the reforms that prevented those born to wealth and privilege from crushing and exploiting everyone else.

Hail to the Robber Baron
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=506836

excerpt:

Thirty years ago, President Bush was my student at Harvard Business School. In my class, he called former president Franklin D. Roosevelt, Class of 1904, a “socialist” and spoke against Social Security, unemployment insurance, the Securities and Exchange Commission, and other New Deal innovations. He refused to understand that capitalism becomes corrupt without democratic civic values and ethical restraints.

In those days, Bush belonged to a minority of MBA students who were seriously disconnected from taking the moral and social responsibility for their actions. Today, he would fit in comfortably with an overwhelming majority of business students and teachers whose role models are celebrated captains of piracy. Since the 1980s, as neo-conservatives have captured the Republican Party, America’s business education has also increasingly become contaminated by the robber baron culture of the pre-Great Depression era.

Bush is the first president of the United States with a Master’s of Business Administration (MBA). Yet, he epitomizes the worst aspects of America’s business education. To privatize Social Security, he is peddling a colossal lie about its solvency. Furthermore, Bush, along with today’s business aristocrats, shows no compassion for working Americans, robbing them to benefit big business and the very rich. Last year, due to Bush’s tax cuts, over 80 of America’s most profitable 200 corporations did not pay even a penny of their federal and state income taxes. Meanwhile, to pay for his additional tax cuts for the very rich, Bush is drastically cutting back several social services, such as federal lunch programs for poor children.

Business education has also produced former Enron CEO Jeff Skilling and other MBAs behind the malfeasances of Tyco, HealthSouth, Haliburton, AIG, and WorldCom. Many executives of corporate America who hold MBAs have also been engaged in the unethical acts of raiding their corporate treasuries at the expense of employees and stockholders. Emulating President Bush’s hubris, a multitude of CEOs in corporate America give themselves obscenely large bonuses that have little to do with their performance. In 1980, the CEOs of Fortune 500 large corporations received, on average, 70 times larger annual compensations than their average employees. Under the Bush Administration, comparable CEOs have come to give themselves 600 to 1,000 times larger annual compensations than their rank-and-file employees whose pay has stagnated. To pay for such self-dealt compensations, corporate aristocrats layoff their workers, cut ordinary employees’ health benefits, and outsource jobs abroad. Under the Bush Administration, over five million Americans have lost their health benefits, and the U.S. has lost over 2.7 million quality manufacturing jobs. President Bush and his rapacious “captains of piracy” of corporate America are destroying America’s democracy built up since Roosevelt’s New Deal era.

full article at above link



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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:20 PM
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1. According to Kitty Kelley's book on the Bushes, the family,
including Prescott, George H. W., Babs, Chimpy and the whole lot hated FDR and everything he stood for. Kelley went into some length about the Bush family's hatred of anything that allow anyone the chance to be on their "social" level. Lovely to see how they can co-opt any damn person or thing to spread their agenda. Hell, if they had Hitler or Stalin on record as saying Social Security is evil they would be using their images in TV ads somehow. Gosh, how I hate this two-faced, lying, hypocritical a$$wipes. Will the nightmare ever end?
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:23 PM
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6. who would want to be on their "level"
my dad who ate p&j sandwiches from a tin lunchbucket was classier than this bunch.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 06:02 PM
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15. same with my dad (even the p+j's) - he always said once we got somewhere,
don't leave until we made things better. As a kid, 'somewhere' would be your bedroom, the bathroom, your place at the dinner table ... as we got older 'somewhere' expanded to mean the world.

The bush's are polar opposite - when they get somewhere, they don't leave until the place is decimated, and blame 'the other faith' for their dirty work.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 08:15 PM
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23. I hear you
I would not even want to buy a used car from them let alone have them over to dinner.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:29 PM
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8. I read Kitty Kelley's book while I was on vacation...
It was definitely an eye-opener, even though I suspect that she knows even more than she disclosed.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:48 PM
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10. I will try and reread it
could not get past Geronimo's skull
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:59 PM
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14. LOL. :D
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 06:25 PM
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17. The Plot to Overthrow FDR in 1930s almost was successful
www.ihffilm.com/r547.html

Little known USMC Gen Smedley D. Butler blew the whistle on Prescott Bush and George Herbert Walker who participated in the attempted coup d'etat.

Why don't historians, C-Span, The History Channel, MSM, make the public aware of this little tidbit of history ?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 06:41 PM
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21. You are right. The plutocrats tried to organize a military coup to over-
throw FDR and they figured Butler would go along with it but he didn't.

Exposing the Legacy of American Corporatism
By Richard Sanders, editor, Press for Conversion!

This issue of Press for Conversion! exposes a little-known, fascist plot to overthrow the U.S. government in the 1930s. We know about this scheme, and the corporate elite behind it, thanks to a high-ranking military whistle-blower: Marine Corps Maj.-Gen. Smedley Butler. Butler is largely forgotten today, but 70 years ago he was the most revered American military hero, the only man to have twice been awarded the Marine’s prestigious Medal of Honor. During his loyal 33-year military career, Butler led invasions, quelled nationalist rebellions and instituted regime changes to benefit U.S. business interests in Mexico, Haiti, Cuba, Nicaragua, the Dominican Republic, Honduras and China

In 1933, Butler was approached by men representing a clique of multi-millionaire industrialists and bankers. They hated U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) with a passion, and saw his “New Deal” policies as the start of a communist take-over that threatened their interests. FDR even had the temerity to announce that the U.S. would stop using its military to interfere in Latin American affairs! Wall Street’s plutocrats were aghast! They had long been accustomed to wielding tremendous control over the government’s economic policies, including the use of U.S. forces to protect their precious foreign investments. Because of Butler’s steadfast military role in upholding U.S. business interests abroad, the plotters mistakenly thought they could recruit him to muster a “super-army” of veterans to use as pawns in their plan to subjugate or, if necessary, eliminate FDR.

<snip>

Although Butler's patriotic efforts did thwart this fascist coup plot, the Wall Street bankers and corporate leaders who sponsored it continued to conspire behind the scenes to rid America of FDR and to smash his “New Deal.” Evidence of continued efforts by powerful U.S. fascists to regain control of the White House is illustrated by a 1936 statement by William Dodd, the U.S. Ambassador to Germany. In a letter to Roosevelt, he stated:
“A clique of U.S. industrialists is hell-bent to bring a fascist state to supplant our democratic government and is working closely with the fascist regime in Germany and Italy. I have had plenty of opportunity in my post in Berlin to witness how close some of our American ruling families are to the Nazi regime.... A prominent executive of one of the largest corporations, told me point blank that he would be ready to take definite action to bring fascism into America if President Roosevelt continued his progressive policies. Certain American industrialists had a great deal to do with bringing fascist regimes into being in both Germany and Italy. They extended aid to help Fascism occupy the seat of power, and they are helping to keep it there. Propagandists for fascist groups try to dismiss the fascist scare. We should be aware of the symptoms. When industrialists ignore laws designed for social and economic progress they will seek recourse to a fascist state when the institutions of our government compel them to comply with the provisions.”

<snip>

President George Walker Bush’s grandfather (Prescott Bush) and great grandfather (George Herbert Walker) were among Wall Street’s ultra-right wing elite. Before WWII, they were among the key players who coordinated the flow of investments from American multimillionaires into Germany. They profited by helping to coordinate the American financing behind Hitler’s rise to power. During the war, they even profited from companies that armed the Nazi war machine and used slave labour at Auschwitz. Then, after the war, Prescott Bush was instrumental in helping to launder Nazi loot for Fritz Thyssen, who was one Hitler’s earliest and richest industrialist backers.
The Bush family's illicit fortune, and their intimate connections to Wall Street and the intelligence community, were essential in launching Prescott Bush, his son George H.W. Bush and grandson George W. Bush, into politics and the oil industry.

<snip>


more.....
http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/53/53-left.html

Another reason the Bushes hate FDR:

On Oct. 20, 1942, the U.S. government seized the Union Banking Corp. of which Prescott Bush was a director, under the Trading With the Enemy Act.




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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 08:25 PM
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25. Smedley Butler's book "War is a Racket" republished by Feral House
War Is a Racket: The Anti-War Classic by America's Most Decorated General, Two Other Anti=Interventionist Tracts, and Photographs from the Horror of It by Smedley D. Butler
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0922915865/ref=pd_pym_ka/104-6424535-4495136

Book Description
Originally printed in 1935, War Is a Racket is General Smedley Butler's frank speech describing his role as a soldier as nothing more than serving as a puppet for big-business interests. In addition to photos from the notorious 1932 anti-war book The Horror of It by Frederick A. Barber, this book includes two never-before-published anti-interventionist essays by General Butler. The introduction discusses why General Butler went against the corporate war machine and how he exposed a fascist coup d'etat plot against President Franklin Roosevelt. Widely appreciated and referenced by left- and right-wingers alike, this is an extraordinary argument against war - more relevant now than ever.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 06:40 PM
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20. Understanding conservatism and the monied elite.
I think someone posted this here recently. I found it utterly enlightening and sent it around to my e-list.

http://polaris.gseis.ucla.edu/pagre/conservatism.html

snip>>The tactics of conservatism vary widely by place and time. But the most central feature of conservatism is deference: a psychologically internalized attitude on the part of the common people that the aristocracy are better people than they are. Modern-day liberals often theorize that conservatives use "social issues" as a way to mask economic objectives, but this is almost backward: the true goal of conservatism is to establish an aristocracy, which is a social and psychological condition of inequality. Economic inequality and regressive taxation, while certainly welcomed by the aristocracy, are best understood as a means to their actual goal, which is simply to be aristocrats. More generally, it is crucial to conservatism that the people must literally love the order that dominates them. Of course this notion sounds bizarre to modern ears, but it is perfectly overt in the writings of leading conservative theorists such as Burke. Democracy, for them, is not about the mechanisms of voting and office-holding. In fact conservatives hold a wide variety of opinions about such secondary formal matters. For conservatives, rather, democracy is a psychological condition. People who believe that the aristocracy rightfully dominates society because of its intrinsic superiority are conservatives; democrats, by contrast, believe that they are of equal social worth. Conservatism is the antithesis of democracy. This has been true for thousands of years.
snip>>
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 08:38 PM
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27. Yurica on the Theocratic Dominionist angle on wealth/poverty
from The Despoiling of America: How George W. Bush became the head of the new American Dominionist Church/State
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm

note: much of this excerpt consists of quotes from The Bible, which is Public Domain. Given that, the excerpt does not violate the "4 paragraph" guideline. The link to the entire article is provided above.

Wealth is a Sign of God’s Favor, Poverty is a Sign of God’s Disfavor

How did the Dominionists get so far from the Lord’s edict to help the poor, the sick, and the elderly? Using the text of Deuteronomy 28, which is a list of God’s blessings and curses, Robertson and other Dominionists believe that the chapter reveals God’s covenanted economic law. God only bestows “material wealth or blessings” upon those who are among his elect and he does so because these are the individuals and nations who obey his commandments and laws. So what about the poor? Dominionist Gary North explains it this way:

“God is sovereign over the poor. He raises them up—not all of them, but some of them. ‘The Lord maketh poor, and maketh rich: he bringeth low, and lifteth up.’”<64>

I grant that the verse cited leaves government assistance out of the picture. North claims, the blessings and sanctions of Deuteronomy 28 are historical. He says, “They are predictable. Covenantal rebellion by a society will lead to God’s imposition of these sanctions.”<65> North then ties the package up neatly: “The blessings and cursings of God under the Mosaic Covenant were sure. They were not disconnected from God’s law. There was a bedrock objectivity that united covenant-keepers and covenant-breakers.”<66>

To understand what North is talking about, we have to read a portion of the text of Deuteronomy 28:

“The Lord shall establish thee an holy people unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee…and the Lord shall make thee the head and not the tail; and thou shalt be above only, and thou shalt not be beneath…”

A conclusion drawn by the scripture itself is that a nation who follows the commandments or laws of God will be “high above all nations of the earth…and all people of the earth shall see that thou art called by the name of the Lord, and they shall be afraid of thee.” On the other hand, the Dominionists believe those who are poor, sick, and weak are so situated because God’s wrath has been visited upon them—they are the “wicked” of this earth and they deserve the wrath of God because their behavior is bringing the entire nation under condemnation.

The litany of the curses of God on those who do not keep his laws and commandments are among the most horrendous descriptions of torture in literature. Here is a sample from Deuteronomy 28:

“The Lord shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies…thy carcass shall be food unto all fowls of the air…The Lord will smite thee with …and with …tumors, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed. The Lord shall smite thee with madness and blindness and astonishment of heart ; thou shalt grope at noonday; thou shalt not prosper in thy ways; and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore…thou shalt betroth a wife and another man shall lie with her; thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein, and thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof; thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face and shall not be restored to thee; they sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them. Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand. The fruit of thy land, and all thy labors, shall a nation whom thou knowest not eat up, and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed always…”

Gary North explained: “The point of Deuteronomy 28 is this: the way to wealth, both individual and corporate, is through systematic adherence to God’s Bible-revealed law.”<67>

Hence the idea that should a nation minister to the poor or attempt to lift the poor out of poverty or save people from poverty and ill health, that nation is contravening the will of Almighty God and such legislation is contrary to the laws of God. It is only one step further to say that if this is God’s attitude toward the poor, it is morally wrong to help them. So it’s easy to see how Social Security and Medicare are viewed by Dominionists as “evil” programs that rob money from some citizens to enrich others.

There’s one other little trap for the unwary Dominionist; when a government is seen to be the enforcer of the Deuteronomic laws, it’s easy to take the next step and say that it is the duty of the “Christian” Dominionist government to subdue the wicked of the world, especially the vast American middle class, because its collective licentious life style is bringing the nation down as a whole; therefore the government must “minister the wrath of God” against the citizens of America as punishment for “rebelliousness.” That the entire scheme is an unending circular argument, escapes the notice of the rank and file sitting in the pews.

In their new role as ministers of God’s wrath against this nation, Dominionist political strategists are aware they must not be seen as being cruel and hateful. So at first, until the population is completely subdued and dominated by the elect, Dominionists are forced to devise laws that will create the political, social, and medical environment that will ultimately ensure that the wicked are punished—but it will appear—at first blush to be a gift. The truth, of course, according to Machiavellian/Straussian dictates, must be hidden from the population; not just once or twice, but over and over again.

In the end, Dominionism should be viewed as a backboard that bounces the New Deal and FDR’s social safety net programs, social security (as well as Medicare) into its political opposite: laissez-faire economics (the motto of 18th century French economists who protested excessive government regulation of industry.) Laissez-faire is a doctrine opposing governmental interference (as by regulation or subsidy) in economic affairs beyond the minimum necessary for the maintenance of peace and property rights. Dominionism opposes the licensing and regulating power of the government.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:20 PM
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2. Jesus Christi!
bush is a disgrace to humanity and he's out there supposedly representing the USA. UGH!
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:20 PM
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3. Is this the same one from last year?
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:24 PM
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7. No, it is a new article by the same prof, updated for *'s attacks on FDR
This one was published on Wednesday, April 06, 2005

There was another article in September or October of 2004.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:21 PM
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4. I've often wondered
what Bush's attitude would be if he weren't born to wealth and priviledge.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:48 PM
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11. He'd Still Be An Asshole
Edited on Sun May-08-05 05:51 PM by otohara
I could see him in one of those "God Hates Fags" t-shirts
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 08:32 PM
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26. He would be a poverty-stricken, angry, drunken freeper
beating his wife and kids, armed to the teeth, driving a old dirty pickup truck, complaining about the goddamn gov'ment havin too much power, fearin' they'll take his guns, and gettin all gussied on Sunday to go to church to worship god, just as the founding fathers intended.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:21 PM
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5. Screw the little guy.
A fine school of thought that's turned out to be. Good article. Thanks!
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:47 PM
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9. With Apologies To Any DU MBAs,...
...I've knowm many holders of that degree. The next competent one that I meet will be the first one!
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:48 PM
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12. what an incredibly powerful x-ray of the morally corrupt bush.
Edited on Sun May-08-05 05:50 PM by flordehinojos
not that this x-ray shows us anything new about bush but that it shows us how far his cancerous amorality goes back to, how much he has lied to the american people, how little he cares about the country tha he is professing to defend, how hollow his compassionate conservatism is, how his putrid thinking has contaminated our entire society and how much like kryptonite on earth his illegal and amoral hold on stolen power has been.

Thank you Yoshi Tsurumi for this ever so clear picture of the real essence of GWB, bearer of the true bush family philosophy and animal party boy.

MAY CONGRESS READ THIS ARTICLE. MAY IT USE IT AS A BLUE PRINT WITH WHICH TO UNMASK GWB AND THE REST OF THE BUSH MARABUNTA AND MAY IT BE USED TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF IMPEACHING GWB FOR MISREPRESENTING HIMSELF AND LYING SO REPEATEDLY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

edited to add: thank you too NAO for posting this article.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:57 PM
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13. If he's trying to run this country like a business,
he could take a lesson from General Electric.

GE is worth more money than any other company in the world, and one thing it is known for is how highly they value their employees. They are known as one of the best companies to work for because of their great working conditions and benefits, etc. They know that if you take care of your employees, they will take care of the company. For example, when things started to get hairy in Iraq in 2003, GE pulled everybody out. Employees are offered great health care, including optical and dental, as well as educational opportunities and other perks.

GE is the bluest of the blue-chip stock companies, with a AAA bond rating, and have always paid out dividends since they began offering stock. Their stock has gone up 4,000%. The company itself was started by Thomas Edison in 1878. I call that successful.

Bush does the opposite: he exploits the citizens of this country. He is like Pharoah to the Children of Israel--he expects them to keep making bricks, even as he withholds the straw. He takes away their educational opportunities and refuses to intervene when the health care industry exploits them. He taxes the middle class, while giving breaks to the rich, and still expects the middle and lower classes to keep on working and keep on spending, even as they go deeper and deeper into debt to the credit card companies. No job? Well, sons and daughters, we have a dandy career for you in one of our armed services!!

Their message, should people open their eyes and look at what they do rather than what they say, is:
"work for us, buy from us, pay all the taxes, and then die for us! And as for you, you get to say that you are a "proud American" and put a sticker on your car showing your undying loyalty to your president."

The same president who is giving you the shaft.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 06:29 PM
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19. Boy, am I conflicted. I do anything to avoid buying GE - not even one
Edited on Sun May-08-05 06:29 PM by higher class
little light bulb - because they are the parent company of NBC, MSNBC, and CNBC. I refuse to buy anything of theirs though I've always imagined they could care less because I'm not in charge of purchasing their engines or contracts or other mega sale items. I didn't know about the employee relationships - I can't change my mind because corporate propaganda without news and neutrality is a disaster for our country, to say nothing about the hypocrisy.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 08:16 PM
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24. I'm with you on NBC, etc.
I don't like them either. But I guess this is one of those things that is neither black or white. They are partly good, partly bad. They still put business first, and expect the govt. to favor them, but they also recognize that treating their employees fairly is good business. They are doing it for their bottom line. I just wish Bush would have enough of that kind of vision for our country as a whole.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 06:16 PM
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16. Wow! This has to be a first! The first time an upper level university
Edited on Sun May-08-05 06:21 PM by higher class
professor has written such a scathing article about his former student who happens to be a two-term President of the U.S. - by theft, lies, and stealth.

When I selected my DU name it was with one thing in mind - the recognition of all the dedicated, humble, genuinely patriotic, and hardworking little people who made this country, whether as slaves or supposedly free men. They are of a higher class than those who try to rule them.

I really thought he was a nothing-in-the-head type guy with a love for back-slapping fraternity type relationships ruled by a penchant for loyalty, betrayal, and revenge where others laid out his path and held his hand - someone who was groomed to believe as he does by more recent influences of the cabal. Now I know he was born not only with that silver foot in his mouth, but a disdain for his fellow Americans.

Right on, George, you just keep getting better and better as a creature indescribable.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 06:28 PM
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18. We know what Chimpy got a degree in!!!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 08:07 PM
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22. Well, these folk have a crystal clear view of the war criminal Bu$h.


Bu$h and his fristian-valued, neoconster buddies will have a tough time revising the truth as they spend the last days of their life in prison.

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:06 PM
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28. I don't think I have ever seen one US president
Verbally attack another US President in public, on foreign soil and in front of the international press. Pardon me, but how much does this man really respect America or the its institutions? Not at all is my answer.

Someone should have asked him if he is proud of his Nazi grand-pappy. That would have made for a fun TV appearance.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 10:09 PM
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29. And attack a man who actually did save a continent from tyranny
and lead America through a war, sucessfully--all those things Bush pretends to do but doesn't. Oh, and FDR got a country in depression and helped it climb out, instead of the reverse.

Bush couldn't carry FDR's dirty hankies but he'll criticize him for not declaring war on the USSR and not getting another couple dozen million dead.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 12:33 AM
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30. Yoshi Tsurumi is awesome
i remember hearing him interviewed on AAR on Majority Report long ago and he was an unbelievably great interview. very smart man.

learning about japanese and american business practices i can completely understand how this nation is rapidly decaying. the fish rots at the head.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 01:29 AM
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31. thanks for this very informative post!!
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 01:20 PM
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32. Link to CNN story on Yoshi Tsurumi's September 2004 denunciation of Bush
Professor says Bush revealed National Guard favoritism
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/13/bush.professor/
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