Kucinich's letter to editor of Cleveland Plain Deceiver fishwrapper 5/8/05

[Algorem]

http://www.cleveland.com/letters/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/opinion/1115556920105180.xml

U.S. must let Iraq fend for itself

Sunday, May 08, 2005

On the very day (Tuesday, April 26) that the CIA team in charge of finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq issued its final report, stating that Iraq had no WMDs - debunking the Bush administration's entire case for war against Iraq - The Plain Dealer's lead editorial ("Needed: More troops") called on the military to increase its presence in the country.

The answer to ending the quagmire in Iraq is not more troops and more money. Have we learned nothing from the lessons of Vietnam?

The war and occupation have taken the lives of close to 1,600 of our brave men and women, and are costing taxpayers more than $1 billion a week.

The administration misled this nation into war and continues to be dishonest about the occupation...


What hack P.D. writer has in today about Kucinich:

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/insidepolitics/index.ssf?/base/opinion/1115458691326800.xml

Leftist in the lurch

Howard Dean has gone soft - or he wants to win the war, which to Dennis Kucinich is the same thing. That is, Dean, the liberal presidential candidate who now chairs the Democratic National Committee, was quoted recently as wishing President Bush success in Iraq. "Now that we're there, we're there and we can't get out," Dean told a Minnesota crowd in late April, according to the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

Kucinich, one of the few who ran to the left of Dean in last year's Democratic primaries, took offense.

"Did these words really come from the same man who claimed to represent the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party, and who had recently campaigned on the antiwar theme?" Kucinich asked in an open letter, posted Tuesday in the online edition of the Nation.

"Military victory in Iraq is not possible," Kucinich said. "The Democratic leadership should be pressing for quick withdrawal of all troops from Iraq."

[harpo]

1. that's right...withdraw them ALL right freggin now damn it!!!

[Algorem]

2. He's 100% correct.

[Selteri]

3. We don't belong there, we are the largest cause of the insugency

and we will only continue to make it worse with how we are treating the Iraqi people.

[HughBeaumont]

4. Stephen Koff wrote this.

Figures. Partisan repuke hack scribbler even though he says he's bipartisan (usually when they find they have to say that . . . chances are, they're a REPUB). He defends offshoring and other GOP causes and quotes the equally RW factcheck.org a lot, particularly when their . . . er . . . "facts" boost Republicants.

I've written more than a few LTTEs directed at this punk, each completely destroying his arguments with real information. Not surprisingly, they have yet to make it to the Plain Squealer's (run by heavy Bush supporter Alex Machaskee) pages.

Kind of funny that the PD didn't endorse a candidate last election. Gee, wonder if that had anything to do with the fact that potential dollars lost in the form of cancelled subscriptions (especially in heavily blue Cuyahoga/Lorain/Erie/Summit counties) mean more to Lil' Alex than his support of the Chimperor? Just like a Repub, I guess - money first, party later.

[OzarkDem]

6. Saw Brent Larkin the other day

He's the chief Opus Dei Bush lackey at the PD.

R leaders were in Cleveland recently to discuss strategy according to the news. Living in a Repub stronghold, that means our mayor always hosts them.

My neo-con radar went off at the local grocery store when I ran into Larkin buying booze and snacks for the neocon fest. Last time I saw him there was election night.

I gave him the finger and went on shopping.

Connie Schultz is the only one worth reading.

[Algorem]

9. Most excellent!

[HughBeaumont]

12. Juggernaut Jane is such a two-faced dope.

Truly one of the most unproductive mayors this city has ever seen. No amount of catering/ass-kissing is turning this county red, Jane. Not happening.

[Crunchy Frog]

5. Repuke media trying to divide and conquer Democrats.

It's sad that so many Democrats seem so willing to play along.

[Guaranteed]

11. ????

Isn't Kucinich the one who attacked Dean?

[Crunchy Frog]

14. My post is about what the media is doing

not about any issues between Dean and Kucinich. I have no desire to insert myself into that particular conflict except to say that I respect both men and that neither of them is above being criticized, nor is anyone else in the Democratic party. I would hope that we could avoid allowing the corporate media to fan the flames though.

[goodhue]

7. kick

[ProgressiveDepot.com]

8. The Howard Dean characterizations annoy me

The "liberal" thrown in front of Dean's name as a way to make him seem fringe and the statement that Dennis Kucinich was the only one running to the left of him are such mischaracterizations. It's as if the only issue in the whole world was Iraq. Dean attracted the extreme left because of his anti-war stance, but his history does not suggest that he is somehow a fringe politician. Everytime I read one of these comments I like Howard Dean more and like the media less.

Unfortunately the Plain Liar is the only game in town. Desubscribed right after the election but then didn't know what the hell was going on, so subscribed again. Reading them online doesn't really change anything -- I'm still a reader. And God knows local TV doesn't tell you anything worthwhile. Stuck.

[Selatius]

10. I don't think he attracted the extreme left, just solid liberals

The "extreme left" had a choice between Camejo of the Green Party and Kucinich, not Dean. Dean is a moderate if we study his record.

Exactly what is "extreme left" is debatable, since a Social Democrat in Europe would be labeled a "commie" and too fringe over here.

[Zomby Woof]

13. kicky