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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 09:14 PM
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Twelve Representatives, including DKucinich, have perfect voting records
A chart which includes all human rights votes for 2005 is up at patrickhenrythinktank.org and it shows 12 Represenatatives, including Kucinich, McKinney, Waters, Woolsey, Owens, Lee, Grijalva, Markey, Pallone,Schakowski,Lewis (GA), and Payne. Thank goodness we have these leaders standing up for us while other Democratic leaders are folding.

Here's the exact link:
http://patrickhenrythinktank.org/house-scores.html
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 09:16 PM
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1. Kucinich voted for the Iraq Liberation act
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 03:06 PM
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16. No. He was the leader of the opposition to the war.
I wish people would stop posting inaccurate information about Dennis.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 06:00 PM
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20. No, he voted for the Iraq Liberation Act
Edited on Sun May-08-05 06:01 PM by wyldwolf
perhaps you don't know as much about Kucinich as you think?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:48 PM
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25. As well as the Afghanistan war.
What a Bush collaborator.
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SGBL Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 01:29 AM
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32. Where does this crap come from?
DK did NOT vote for the war. You know if you're going to lie about something it would help to do it about something not as solid and public as the congressional record.

Perhaps we should talk about a certain republican general as long as you want to throw around false accusations?
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 06:16 AM
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40. I believe he is talking
about the 1998 Act, not this current war.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 10:46 PM
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30. Kucinich haters are like Kenneth Starr. They will dig back 30 yrs. and
will be ecstatic when they dig up some little bone because they hate his genuinely democratic and progressive ideas but can't find anything really substantial or valid to criticize him about.

When examining DK's voting record on the most important issues of the past 5 years, Dennis has one of the most consistently Democratic, and democratic, voting records in Congress.

Most Democrats that criticize him on his voting record are clutching at straws.

And BTW, here is the Iraq Liberation Act.

Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (PL 105-338)

An Act
To establish a program to support a transition to democracy in Iraq.
snip---
SEC. 5. DESIGNATION OF IRAQI DEMOCRATIC OPPOSITION ORGANIZATION.
(a) INITIAL DESIGNATION- Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the President shall designate one or more Iraqi democratic opposition organizations that the President determines satisfy the criteria set forth in subsection (c) as eligible to receive assistance under section 4.
snip---
2) are committed to democratic values, to respect for human rights, to peaceful relations with Iraq's neighbors, to maintaining Iraq's territorial integrity, and to fostering cooperation among democratic opponents of the Saddam Hussein regime.
snip---
SEC. 8. RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.
snip---
Nothing in this Act shall be construed to authorize or otherwise speak to the use of United States Armed Forces (except as provided in section 4(a)(2)) in carrying out this Act.

http://www.fcnl.org/issues/int/sup/iraq_liberation.htm





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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 03:47 AM
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36. Most aren't haters
They're just tired of people claiming that he's "perfect".

I like Kucinich. If I lived in OH I would want him to run for higher office. He's a great rep.

But I also don't like worshipping any candidate or politician. It gets silly - regardless of whether it's Clark, Kerry, Dean or whomever.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 09:22 PM
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2. Woo Hoo! mine is there!
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 09:24 PM
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3. I guess women's reproductive rights are not human rights
DK opposed women's right to abortion for a long time before he changed his position.
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MaggieSwanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 10:22 PM
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9. Give it a rest, Larkspur n/t
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 10:47 PM
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10. What's the deal
Do you oppose Larkspur's free speech or her advocacy of reproductive rights?
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:49 PM
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26. Tell genuis to give it a rest
We're not saying that Dennis sucks. We're just sick and tired of him speaking of Dennis like he's Jesus Christ (when he's not) while at the same time bashing every Democrat in the US Senate for living in the real political world.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 05:36 AM
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37. Yeah, don't you know women don't count
When we're discussing the perfection of the Perfect One Dennis?
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 10:51 PM
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11. Thank you for making that point
that so many do not know, he changed his position. Thanks Larkspur. He has voted consistantly for womens reproductive rights for a long time now.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 11:08 PM
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12. he has voted consistently for women's reproductive rights
since May of 2002. That may be a "long time" in your book.

Before that he had a 95% rating from the National Right To Life Committee, higher than three other Ohio Republican Congressmen.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 11:15 PM
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13. Much better
than trying to decide if we should give up on womens reproductive rights now just to win. He was voting pro choice before he ran for the presidency. Granted it was not long but he was. We are much kinder to Republicans who change to Independent or Democratic than we are to one of our own who sees the light. I don't get it. Here is his platform, if you disagree with this then fine if not we should drop this criticism.

7. Right-to-Choose, Privacy, and Civil Rights

A woman's right-to-choose must be protected as essential to personal privacy and gender equality. Only those who agree to uphold Roe v. Wade should be nominated for the Supreme Court. Civil rights (and voting rights) enforcement must be intensified. Lesbians and gays must be afforded complete equality throughout society, including in marriage. Affirmative action must be maintained as a tool for racial and gender equality. Drug policy should emphasize treatment over criminalization, and not a rampaging war that erodes Constitutional freedoms, privacy, and law enforcement resources. An end to capital punishment must be sought.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 03:08 PM
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17. Dennis has always been pro-choice. There seems to be a
post-incorrect information about Dennis- group that loves to make inacurate comments about this pro-choice Democrat.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 10:46 PM
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29. this is simply incorrect
And for you to say that throws your credibility out the window.

You need to do some research.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 01:39 AM
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35. His record shows he's pro choice.
It's one thing to attack him because he opposed the war and you supported it or for something else you don't agree with but be honest when you speak of Dennis. He has always been pro-choice and he had the strongest pro-choice position of all candidates in the last election. The anti-choice people opposed him for his pro-choice stance.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 05:38 AM
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38. Dennis is at war with Oceana
He has always been at war with Oceana
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SGBL Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 01:31 AM
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33. So people can't change about ONE issue?
Yes that's right - no one ever ever changes their mind, and when they do (for the better) we should condemn them.

I'm sure you've never changed your mind.
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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 09:25 PM
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4. amen!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 09:31 PM
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 09:32 PM
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6. how soon till that list is down to zero?
patrickhenrythinktank = :rofl:
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 03:10 PM
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18. Never, as long as Dennis, Cynthia and a number of others are in Congress.
We've got some real leaders in the House that we can be very proud of. I wouldn't vote for anyone in the Senate for dogcatcher right now though. If the Senate stops PATRIOT III (the Real Death Camp Act), I'll be impressed.
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harpo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 09:44 PM
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7. Dennis speaks to me...clearly and good for sound bytes ;)
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 10:03 PM
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8. Thanks for posting this.
I don't think I had ever seen that before. Good for Kucinich. Good for all 12 of them.
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 11:21 PM
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14. This definition of perfect means "extreme leftist in a safe seat"
There's a good reason why only a handful out of 435 have such a record.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 08:07 AM
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15. good observation
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 12:40 AM
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31. What was I thinking? Thank you for letting me see the error of my ways.
I should have know that advocating human rights or the interests of ordinary people made me an "extreme leftist"! That's even worse than being a "liberal"!

I guess I'll have to go start reading The New Republic and listening to the DLC mouthpieces on CNN so that I can get those pesky morals and ethics out of my head. :sarcasm:

We are in a sad state indeed if Democrats think that acquiescing to Republican top-down class warfare and coddling dictators is "centrist" and "moderate."
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 03:13 PM
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19. You're right. Voting for tyranny should be called Dem centrist.
How dare these people stand up for us. Shame. Shame. Shame. In fact, any Democrat who doesn't support Bush and want to kiss his feet is a leftist by your definition.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 06:13 PM
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 07:10 PM
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23. Why would anyone want to have a "perfect" voting record
as judged by any organization?

Doesn't sound like someone who thinks for himself/herself.

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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 06:18 PM
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22. Kucinich's "perfect" voting record
Voted YES on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)

Voted YES on banning human cloning, including medical research. (Jul 2001)

Voted YES on banning Family Planning funding in US aid abroad. (May 2001)

Voted YES on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)

Voted YES on banning partial-birth abortions. (Apr 2000)

Voted YES on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)

Voted YES on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration. (Jun 2003)

Voted YES on Constitutional amendment prohibiting Flag Desecration. (Jul 2001)

Voted YES on the Iraq Liberation Act (1998)

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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:46 PM
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24. Dennis voted to take away my right to burn a flag
If he had his way, the government could arrest me for engaging in a civil protest.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:59 PM
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27. If that is true, that is totally unacceptable. nt
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 10:05 PM
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28. That is one of the
things I really disagreed with him on. I understood his reasoning but did not think it was a good vote.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 01:36 AM
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34. There haven't been any votes on that subject in years.
This is 2005.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 05:41 AM
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39. So he hasn't had the chance to flip-flop on another issue
All hail the Perfection of the Perfect One!
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-05 06:34 AM
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41. Locking as flamebait n/t
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