Does Kerry have any "bimbo baggage"?

[Jacobin]

I remember all the bimbo outbreaks with Clinton in his first general election cycle. They got handled, mostly because he was such a good politician, Hillary stood by him, and everyone was soooo tired of Bush The Elder that they were ready for a change from that whining SaddamObsessed Dingbat.

Now, Limpballs and Inanity are giggling about some "bomb" they are gonna drop about Kerry that will "destroy" him. Any inkling that this will be a bimbo outbreak, or has anyone heard whispers.

This kind of thing brought down Gary Hart....and got Clinton impeached. I would like to know if there is a chance that this will be a problem for Kerry.

(Disclaimer: I don't give a rat's skinny ass whether he's doing someone else or did in the past. I just know its the Repukes favorite cheap shot, as long of course as no one brings up THEIR indiscretions.)

[Torrey Pines]

1. Wouldn't other opponents in prior elections

have checked this out?

[Jacobin]

2. Gary Hart got away with it until late in the game

I don't know. I just know the long knives are gonna be out with the repuke dirt diggers.

[David Dunham]

3. he has none

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

4. Has Kerry ever ran against a Republican before?

Just asking, because I don't know?

[styersc]

5. Kerry had a real fight on his hands in his election to the Senate against

conservative sweetheart, Gov. Weld. If there was anything it would have been used long ago.

Limbone is a stoned out loser waiting for the cops to knock on his door. And Sean Insanity is waiting for Limbone to be dragged off so he can be the new top propagandist.

What can they say- he took us to war over a lie- oh no, that was his opponent and Kerry was the one who was lied to.

[Jacobin]

7. There seem to be some "gentlemen's agreements" about not

discussing such things......UNTIL the stakes get very high....like right now.

I dearly HOPE he doesn't have to endure such attacks (since we all know that repuke indiscretions are deemed "not newsworthy" by the media)

[Feanorcurufinwe]

9. You aren't listening

the stakes already have been high.

[Jacobin]

13. I'm not talking about a senate race. I'm talking about a race for

ruler of the world.

Anyone who doesn't think that the rules are different in this game is not watching closely.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

20. I know exactly what you are talking about.

"Now, Limpballs and Inanity are giggling about some "bomb" they are gonna drop about Kerry that will "destroy" him. Any inkling that this will be a bimbo outbreak, or has anyone heard whispers."


THAT is what you are talking about. You are talking about unsubstantiated rumors spread by the right wing. You are repeating those rumors on DU.


You asked ' Does Kerry have any "bimbo baggage"? ' -- and you've got your answer: NO.


For some reason, that answer isn't good enough for you.

:eyes:

[Jacobin]

22. I'm glad you are certain of that. Read below for other thoughts

[Feanorcurufinwe]

6. LOL, talk about desperation

:eyes:

[JI7]

8. this is a rumor but never seen facts

i read one reason gore ended up not picking him for vp was because of this issue. but i don't see it as a serious issue. and there isn't much proof to back anything up other than just things from what almost any young man would have been into. there is that stuff they keep talking about him with jane fonda and some other girls but why does it matter ?

[Jacobin]

15. It DOESN'T matter. It didn't matter to me with Clinton. It wouldn't matter

to me IF there is something like this with Kerry. But I KNOW what the media and the repukes would do with it. They fricking IMPEACHED Clinton for a blowjob.

[sandnsea]

32. I think because of his dating

I don't think there was rumors of affairs. But because he had dated alot of women before Teresa and they hadn't been married that long in 2000. By now though, I would think his bachelor day stuff is long behind him.

[JI7]

36. yeah, it was dating, which is why

i don't think it's as serious. i don't think adultery would be a big issue either now. i was considering voting for gary hart if he had decided to run this time again.

[sandnsea]

39. Somebody would have pulled it out

There are simply too many "Washington insiders" in this primary to not pull out an affair. Trippi, LeHane, somebody would use it. If for no other reason than to make sure it was out of the way now. I really think they've got nothing on him. Must drive them out of their minds!!

[JI7]

63. i agree, if they do, then bring it out now

if they have something i want them to bring it now, before we settle on the nominee. not that i would change my mind about who to vote for. but as with clinton i just don't see this as an issue. and kerry WAS attacked but he does a good job of responding to them such as on the medals question in the debate. the fact they started reporting on things such as his haircuts, sandwiches, and other things that have nothing to do with politics made me see they had nothing. i also think any attempts to go after him on his private life would backfire.

[Maddy McCall]

10. How can Limbaugh assail anyone on a morality issue?

I would imagine that little thing about glass houses....

[Jacobin]

16. In case you haven't noticed, Limballs is a complete hypocrite and

his position is that everyone else must live by his high moral standards, but that he and the fascists he supports don't.

Its a media/RW problem that I'm wondering about

[isbister]

17. Because he has no morals

of course!

[David Zephyr]

11. David Asman at Fox News Has Hinted at This Already.

"Rumors of Kerry and his women".

Kerry will get the same that Dean got.

Process of elimination.

[bigtree]

30. Assman at Faux!!!

Great source.:eyes:

[David Zephyr]

37. Duh!

You miss the point in your blinding anger.

I'm pointing out that Fox has already started with Kerry what they are doing with Dean and Clark.

Man, you need to chill.

[bigtree]

40. The sources cited are republicans

This post is perpetuating a republican smear. I am chill, man. This post is inflammatory and based on nothing but a republican whispering campaign. Or can you show me any Democrat who has questioned him on this? At any rate it should be ignored as a sleazy smear. Nothing more.

Just what were you planning as a response to the smear. Would you hound Kerry about it? Would you repeat the titillating details over and over until the smear became a drumbeat of idiocy? Just what would you do?

Don't you think this sort of sleaze is out of bounds?

[Guaranteed]

67. Well, then this might turn into a "Survivor" series. nt

[OKHRANA]

12. if he's got it, we're going to find out...

Times have changed since Gary Hart. Even if Kerry has a past with bimbo's (and his current wife may be one of them), and I seem to remember reading about some rumours some time ago, he should survive it. The key is getting it out and dealing with it now, not near November.

And this is not what got Clinton impeached. He had bimbo problems with Jennifer Flowers in 1992 before he got elected, and he overcame that.

What got Clinton impeached whether you or I support it or not was lying about his extracurricular activities on national tv and under oath, not actually doing them, and even if Hillary stood by him every time.

[Nicholas_J]

33. They already tried

Brining up refernces to Kerry's dating the ex- girlfriend of some rock star, but this happened while he was single, and that was pretty much all they could bring up on him. If there was anything prior to CLinton's administration there is absolutely no way they wouldnt have used it during BCCI and the other Republican scandals Kerry brought out during those administrations.

Highly unlikely, as Kerry has been a thorn in Republicans side for decades and there is absolutely no way they would have let it lie this long.

Besided, there is no way to know that about other candidates, including Dean, and in most of the cases that they have caught these situations after the fact, it has again been a result of the candidate not being in the natiional eye before their election, like Clinton. They nailed Hart immediately because he was a Senator.

[Bunny]

38. Teresa Heinz "may be a bimbo"?

On what planet? Where on earth could you have possibly got that idea?

And we know what got Clinton impeached, and it wasn't his "lying". The movement to impeach began years before anyone had ever heard of Ms. Lewinsky. But you knew that, right?

[bearfartinthewoods]

41. i t's a very old story......

and was never proved.

[Catherine Vincent]

61. Wrong! What got Clinton impeached and ACQUITTED

was lying about f'ing blowjobs with someone other than his wife. And this crap about this lying on national tv is what a lot of freepers like to repeat over and over. Thanks for being like them.

[beaconess]

14. What's with all of the prurient interest in candidate's sex lives

masquerading as concern that Republicans will use it against us.

Trust me - if Kerry had a bimbo problem, the Republicans would have dug it up by now in one of his previous tough races.

And if somehow they missed it, I have no doubt that if she had even an inkling of a hint of a whiff of another woman on him, Theresa would have bobbitized him real good by now.

You'd have to be an idiot to cross that woman - I mean that in a good way since I think she is the BOMB - and Kerry is not a stupid man.

[Jacobin]

18. Gee, I dunno

I realize that sex has NEVER been used against a Dem candidate before, so I guess I'm completely out of line on this.

Nevermind.

Sex life of a presidential candidate is never an issue in American politics.

I take back the question as irrelevant

[bigtree]

42. The issue was what the republicans did with it

with a whispering campaign that blew up into a bloodless coup attempt that few Democrats had the guts to stand up against. The same type of whispering campaign you are participating in here.

[Jacobin]

44. As I recall, there was no whispering going on during impeachment

The news jocks were describing cum stained dresses, blowjobs, semen DNA analysis and Ken Starr's report was so ribald that there were concerns he couldn't post it on the internet for fear of violating federal obscenity laws.

I asked a fricking question about a guy the gals seem to be leering over on this board who has been divorced, has tons of money and seems to have gotten around in his bachelor days. If we can't vet our candidates PRIOR to their nomination, we are asking for it.

Why would you want this crap to be dredged up AFTER the nomination? I would rather know now if its out there. We may not like the state of the media and the viciousness of the RW, but dammit, we are gonna have to deal with it realistically

If its not a problem, GREAT

[bigtree]

47. They were out of line

and so is this post.

[Jacobin]

52. I get it. When you don't like what the RW does you just say:

"Your out of line" and they will disappear and leave you alone.

I don't think that's realistic. Ask Bill Clinton.

[bigtree]

62. You stand against it

Its nonsense, so you slap it down and don't give credence to it. Do what Sen. Edwards did in the debate. Talk about the issues and don't let republicans distract you.

[beaconess]

56. The whispering campaign PRECEDED impeachment

and was largely responsible for laying the groundwork for the investigations that led to impeachment.

It all started with the whispering campaign, then people began to believe it because they "heard it somewhere." Then more people began to believe it because "where there's smoke there's fire." And so on and so on and so on.

[Namvet04]

19. Big difference was Hart dared the press - have a question

I do not know a lot about Kerry but I know his wife was married before and her husband died. Was Kerry married before and what happen?

[KittyWampus]

21. Doesn't Matter. They Could Just Make Shit Up

[Jacobin]

23. No doubt they could. Parading Donna Rice around didn't help

Hart though.

[maggrwaggr]

50. exactly. they'll just hire some gal to tell a story

and why not? They lie about everything else.

They are scum.

[lancdem]

24. This smells of desperation to me

but I'm no expert. It would be interesting to see how Theresa would handle this. She's no shrinking violet.

[Jacobin]

27. I'm assuming that you are attributing motives to my post.

I'm not. I'm a Dean supporter. I'm also a realist. While I think he has a chance to come back, it doesn't look likely. Kerry appears to be headed for the nomination. If that's the case, I think we need to know what bombs the repukes plan to drop.

I have gotten somewhat past the IWR thing, although I'll vote for Kerry IN SPITE of his Iraq war decisions and not because of them.

If we are gonna get high behind this guy, I'd like to know what landmines are out there. I am completely confident that the RW will make up shit about Kerry. That we can try to deal with. I'm just concerned and would like to have a inkling about whether the bimbo problem is gonna be there too.

Again, read my disclaimer. I don't care who is doing who. I'm concerned about getting a dem in the WH and this can be a serious problem.

[jfxgillis]

25. HUGE difference

Kerry was, I think, a carefree bachelor Senator during his slut phase.

Shit. This crap didn't work on GROVER CLEVELAND 120 years ago. What makes those righty idiots think it'll work now?

This slime-attempt not only won't work, it'll backfire big time, except in the extremely unlikely event that Kerry has an ABANDONED offspring.

[bearfartinthewoods]

69. during his slut phase?????

interesting that you see him as a carefree bachelor yet the women he was involved with were sluts.

it's always 'refreshing' to see mindsets like this on a liberal board

[beaconess]

70. Why do you think he was referring to women?

I assumed the reference was to Kerry himself.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

72. he was - he said Kerry as a freewheeling bachleor was a slut

Your "slut phase" as in when you are being a slut and sleeping around. It was directed towards Kerry, but don't let that stop anyone from trying to turn anything into a sexist comment whichever way possible ... :eyes:

[beaconess]

74. So we can't discuss anything because someone might completely

distort our language into a sexist comment?

I think your criticism is off-base here. He didn't make a sexist comment - you incorrectly inferred something he did not say. If others do the same thing, it is their problem, not ours. Since ANYTHING can be distorted, the only alternative would be not to say a thing.

I'm not worried about them twisting what we say. We're smart and articulate enough to explain ourselves.

[KaraokeKarlton]

26. It's certainly possible from his first marriage

But I suspect that the bomb is likely a copy of the book Kerry wrote called "The New Soldier". I've heard that there is some pretty damning stuff in that book that won't play well with the general public. In his first race I had also heard that there was a mad dash to suppress that book. Copies were stolen from libraries and everything. It's probably not a good idea to claim to be strong on defense when you wrote a book depicting photos of people spitting on and blowing their noses on the US flag. I haven't seen the pictures myself, but that's what I've heard about the book. I guess it's going to be a "wait and see" situation. If I were a Kerry supporter I'd be hoping that Kerry isn't in any of those pictures. Actually, they might want to hope it's just some bimbo. :shrug:

[Im Now a Progressive]

77. Hate to say it but

this may be Sen. Kerry's undoing. I can only imagine what the repubs would do with this.

[NavajoRug]

28. This could be a serious problem for Kerry . . .

I think most Americans are mature enough to have a "none of my business" attitude about something like this, but after what we went through with Bill Clinton there is going to be some very serious concern about any possibility that this may be an indication of some kind of pathological behavior at work.

[bigtree]

29. Jacobin

This is a slimy fishing expedition. This is a whispering smear post that perpetuates Limbaugh's smear.

You have no basis to characterize John Kerry as less than honorable in his private affairs outside of Limbaugh and Hannity's dirty whisper campaign and it has only succeded in defining you.

This post should not stand because of the republican source and because it is inflammatory.

[Jacobin]

31. We can hide our heads in the sand or be prepared.

The battle for the WH is going to be a war without rules, at least from the RW side.

Anyone who thinks otherwise maybe is less cynical than I am, which is admirable. However, I don't think its realistic to assume that this area of inquiry will be off limits to the Bill Bennetts (well he's history, nevermind), sean inanities, limpballs, and the rest of the RW talking heads and it will spill into mainstream news....

I think its a fair question, particularly after our last president got IMPEACHED over bimbo eruptions.

[bigtree]

34. Or you could refrain from spreading republican sourced nonsense.

The last president was hounded for something that had nothing to do with the American people's lives and the majority of Congress let it happen. Are you starting a smear campaign against him or will you present some facts outside of republican whispered smears? More importantly, just what value do you put in the word of republican hacks?

[Jacobin]

35. I have not attacked you personally and don't plan to

I'm not spreading any repuke talking points. A few rumours were mentioned above, if you took the time to read them. I asked a question. It's legitimate to ask that question given the state of our media and what has happened to american politics in the last 15 years.

If you want to be in denial that this is a potential problem to deal with, that's fine. Before I start sending money and trying to convince people where I live that they should vote for John Kerry, I want to know how far my ass is hanging off the cliff.

If you think that's out of line, we simply disagree.

[bigtree]

43. I didn't post an inflammatory thread with nothing but republican rumors

as the source.

[Jacobin]

45. Sir, or Madam, as the case may be, one provides "sources" for

statements and assertions, NOT for questions.

[bigtree]

46. No one, not even those who have supported you in this,

thinks you are just innocuously asking questions. You are trying to further your doubts about John Kerry by spreading a republican rumor.

BTW, I've provided a profile that will inform you of my gender.

[Jacobin]

54. You can mischaracterize the posts on this thread all you want.

I haven't checked your profile.

This is more of what concerns me about Kerry supporters.

All candidates have to be vetted. And those who think the RW won't find any dirt it can are deluding themselves. And if you don't think the media will pile on 24/7 then you have a short memory.

Why is this such a touchy subject, BTW.

[bigtree]

58. You made one point in posting this.

Groundless rumormongering should be strongly opposed.

"When you reach for the stars you may not quite get one, but you won't come up with a handful of mud either."
Leo Burnett

[mikehiggins]

51. Jeeze, I feel like I'm spamming the board tonight.

I've posted this on other threads dealing with Kerry and with the dirty tricks his campaign is pulling while he smilingly talks about taking the high road.

What I'm concerned about is the fact that a very many people in this country consider John Kerry a traitor for his actions during the VietNam war, and that if he is our nominee he will be hung out to dry for it.

This wouldn't have mattered before 9/11 but you can be sure it will matter a WHOLE LOT in 2004.

Discuss

[bigtree]

55. Haven't heard it from them yet. At least not to his face.

You watch. He will wipe the floor with that nonsense.

Not many people liked Nixon. Not many veterans, at least those who remember Nixon's treachery, will hold John's dissent against him.

I think the opposite will happen. I believe that John will run a successful 'veteran's' campaign that will sweep the South.

The question is what do you think of his dissent of that war? Will you hold it against him? If not, will you defend him, or will you do what Nixon did? Hound him for what I believe was the highest service he could have done at the time. Opposing that bloody, illegal war.

[IndianaGreen]

48. The rumors are that Kerry cheated on his wife, Teresa Heinz

It is the stuff of legends that Kerry played around as a bachelor. No one will criticize a single man or woman for having sex, Kerry included.

Now, if Kerry did cheat on his current wife, that's another matter altogether. Do we want to go through another Paula Jones debacle?

[bigtree]

49. Does it matter to you where these rumors are coming from?

If I start a rumor about your candidate with a republican source will you accept my charges as relevant?

Or do you have a source for your innuendo?

[poopyjr]

53. Rumors are that Dean fondled his women patients when they were under

anesthesia.

[Bucky]

57. Uh-huh. & Clark fondled his privates, Edward groped his clients, Sharpton

poked half his congregation, Kucinich cohabited with dolphins, and Gephardt had large sweaty bathhouse orgies with teamsters in half the truckstops along Route 66. Whoever we nominate will be assailed on character, honestly, fidelity, emotional stability, and everything else you can't disprove or argue against. Welcome to America.

There's only one way to deal with this trash. Kindly tell your Republican oppenents to pull their heads out of our eurethrae and start talking about how we're going to fix the mess they've caused.

[Guaranteed]

68. Could Kerry be homosexual?

Just asking. :)

[JI7]

65. this is not an important issue

the point is that this is not an issue that is important. clinton survived and he DID commit adultery. go after kerry on iwr, patriot act, etc, but his private life has nothing to do with this. and that is the point. gary hart was considering running again and it's because the issue is not so important anymore. clinton showed those who go after people on this are worse than the person they attack.

[Catherine Vincent]

59. Let me see.....

The Repukes probably have Morgan Fairchild tied up somewhere and torturing her to make up some sex story about Kerry. Or how he father some children when he had his way with vietnamese women.

Whatever. Lush and Sean need to stick to kissing the chimp's ass!

[mb7588a]

60. It would have come up in 1996

and i doubt he's done anything bad since then. He's got teresa!!!

[RowWellandLive]

64. I heard this stuff too

but I think it's all talk of his wild bachelor days before he married Theresa. There's no adultery as far as I know so no one will care. It might even help in that it may loosen up his somewhat "stiff" image. As long as he wasn't cheating in his wife it may give him a different dimension as a more "real" person. I don't think it will hurt a bit.

[George_Bonanza]

66. Kerry doesn't come off as a swinging womanizer

[nightperson]

75. Shhhhhhhh,

if this thread goes on much longer, he's a freakin' Rock Star! "John 'Been There Done That' Kerry, 70's Super-Slut! In any given year in his youth as a sexual revolutionary, he lived three lifetimes and in the end couldn't remember any of them". A while back the Republicans tried calling him "Porfirio", after the heiress-marrying freakishly-endowed playboy Porfirio Rubirosa, but it didn't stick. Maybe Kerry's Democratic opposition can succeed where they failed in livening up his image! Thanks, guys! :toast: :bounce: :yourock: Here are some recently unearthed images of typical youthful Kerry behavior: :pals: :grouphug: :hug: :loveya:

[AngryAmish]

71. I have some bimbo baggage myself

Got it in Cal City. Best set I ever had.

[CabalBuster]

73. Sorry Kerry supporters but he'stoo ugly.....no bimbo will go near him

If he gets nominated/elected he might end up being the ugliest democrat nominated or in office ever. I know this assessment is superficial (and in this society superficiallity appears to be the norm). No way I can see a women go crazy over Kerry even with all that Ketchup money and blue blood......

[MaineDem]

76. Assuming you're male...

I hope your views on casting a ballot are more defined than your ideas on what "a women" finds attractive.

In any case, this doesn't matter one iota!

A few months ago the Boston Globe did a scathing series of articles on Kerry. I was concerned that the writer was being unusually critical of the Massachusetts Senator. However, it's all out in the open now and I can't see any of it being an issue - at least an issue with legs - in this campaign.

[flaminbats]

78. not something I would worry about...

but this issue probably centers around the time of his relationship with his first wife, and whether he has stayed on good terms with her or any children they had. Since it wasn't a big issue with Reagan, I doubt it would seriously hurt Kerry..unless he has done something to hurt them. Otherwise nobody will really care about it...