Demand that Dean, Kerry, Obama ,Hillary etc back Conyer's Iraq Query

[Dr Fate]

Demand that the Top, quotable, house hold name Democrats get behind Conyers on this by issuing statements of their own- or even going on TV and radio shows to spread the word...

Call your reps. Call your local media too- but mainly demand that more/all DEMS get behind Conyers.


The Honorable George W. Bush President of the United States of America The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20500

Dear Mr. President:

We write because of troubling revelations in the Sunday London Times apparently confirming that the United States and Great Britain had secretly agreed to attack Iraq in the summer of 2002, well before the invasion and before you even sought Congressional authority to engage in military action. While various individuals have asserted this to be the case before, including Paul O'Neill, former U.S. Treasury Secretary, and Richard Clarke, a former National Security Council official, they have been previously dismissed by your Administration. However, when this story was divulged last weekend, Prime Minister Blair's representative claimed the document contained "nothing new." If the disclosure is accurate, it raises troubling new questions regarding the legal justifications for the war as well as the integrity of your own Administration.

The Sunday Times obtained a leaked document with the minutes of a secret meeting from highly placed sources inside the British Government. Among other things, the document revealed:

* Prime Minister Tony Blair chaired a July 2002 meeting, at which he discussed military options, having already committed himself to supporting President Bush's plans for invading Iraq.

* British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw acknowledged that the case for war was "thin" as "Saddam was not threatening his neighbours and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea, or Iran."

* A separate secret briefing for the meeting said that Britain and America had to "create" conditions to justify a war.

* A British official "reported on his recent talks in Washington. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."

As a result of this recent disclosure, we would like to know the following:

1) Do you or anyone in your Administration dispute the accuracy of the leaked document?

2) Were arrangements being made, including the recruitment of allies, before you sought Congressional authorization go to war? Did you or anyone in your Administration obtain Britain's commitment to invade prior to this time?

3) Was there an effort to create an ultimatum about weapons inspectors in order to help with the justification for the war as the minutes indicate?

4) At what point in time did you and Prime Minister Blair first agree it was necessary to invade Iraq?

5) Was there a coordinated effort with the U.S. intelligence community and/or British officials to "fix" the intelligence and facts around the policy as the leaked document states?

We have of course known for some time that subsequent to the invasion there have been a variety of varying reasons proffered to justify the invasion, particularly since the time it became evident that weapons of mass destruction would not be found. This leaked document - essentially acknowledged by the Blair government - is the first confirmation that the rationales were shifting well before the invasion as well.

Given the importance of this matter, we would ask that you respond to this inquiry as promptly as possible. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Congressman John Conyers
http://rawstory.com/aexternal/conyers_iraq_letter_502

[ClassWarrior]

1. kicking now - calling tomorrow

:kick:

NGU. :patriot:

[Skink]

2. What else is knew....

Turns out FDR was tight with Stalin. Although Franklin didn't have the bomb yet.

[ClassWarrior]

3. If you're not up to fulfilling your own responsibilities...

...please at least show some respect for those who are.

Thank you.

NGU.

[Dr Fate]

4. I don't get it.

Call them or dont. I'd prefer you call them.

[frictionlessO]

18. I hate the smell of apathy in the morning.

Take a piss on your own thread why don't ya.

[welshTerrier2]

5. the perfect phrase for this will be:

what did the president know and when did he know it ...

i think they'll be able to defend bush about the prior planning of the war ... it's easy to make the case that you should prepare for war well in advance whether the war actually occurs or not ... preparedness is not a crime ...

but linking bush to meetings where it was acknowledged the case against Saddam was weak and needed to be strengthened (by falsifying evidence, cherry-picking intelligence data and dictating to the intelligence community what "facts" were needed_ is treasonous conduct and a very impeachable offense ...

i just hope president hastert doesn't pardon these lying assholes ...

[Clark2008]

14. President Hastert

Uhh... did I have to read this first thing in the morning?

:puke:

[GetTheRightVote]

6. Impeach *, he has committed crimes against this nation & her people

:kick:

[Dr Fate]

7. Tell your reps. Demand they back Conyers. Call and email them.

n/t

[Cha]

8. Here's a link I got from another

thread from madfloridian on how to connect to Dean.

"Your ideas
So many of you have offered your ideas for the Democratic Party. So far the responses have been very positive—ranging from inspiring to exciting. Included below are just a few of the many recieved. They represent the hope, the power, and the energy of the people who are coming together to make the Democratic Party the party we all know it can be.

If you haven't yet done so, tell Governor Dean what we can do together to help the Democratic Party win."

http://www.democrats.org/blog/comment/00011599.html

[Dr Fate]

9. Done. It takes 2 minutes, folks.

n/t

[usregimechange]

10. We need to get this on the DU main page first.

[Dr Fate]

11. I nominated the one in LBN,

I agree that it is an important story.

[BigBearJohn]

12. COME ON PEOPLE! RISE & SHINE! YOU ARE ((NEEDED)) BADLY

It won't take much effort.
Contact Dean with the link provided on this thread.
Make 25 contacts. What's it gonna take you? 30 mins?
It's worth it. Please? Pretty Please? Throw aside
your cynicism one last time. Just do it! Come on.
Are you tired of being screwed without a kiss?
Fight back! Let your fingers do the walking/talking.
We can do it. Come on. Let's see how far we can take this.

[Ninga]

13. Karl Rove is counting on us to stay complacentent....for goodness sake,

do all you can to support Congressman Conyers, and contact your representatives and demand accountability.

[Clark2008]

15. Dean is in Australia

I have a Clarkie friend there who just reported that he gave a speech in Sydney last night.
He's on a family holiday - don't think you can reach him today.

[Q]

16. "...had to "create" conditions to justify a war."

Many on the Left knew that the reasons for invading Iraq were bogus long before the invasion. We also knew that George intended to invade as he ordered a troop buildup on the border of Iraq.

Some would suggest that he would have invaded anyway...even if every Democrat objected. That's simply not true. Many Dems were as eager as Bush to attack Iraq...especially the New Democrats...who wanted to look as 'tough' as the Republicans when it came to 'national security'.

The Dems that voted against giving Bush a blank check to invade Iraq had it right from the very beginning. Those who voted for it thought they could pick up some political capital and look SUPER PATRIOTIC. But now they simply look like they were either in on the scam or were political opportunists.

Will Conyers once again be left to fight the Bushie Republicans by himself? How many times has he spoken out in the past...only to be ignored by the party leadership?

I'll be writing letters to my representatives. But I'm left with an empty feeling that the 'leadership' of the party won't do anything except run into the shadows and hope that Bush won't say mean things to them.

[ClassWarrior]

22. Life must be simple when it's all foregone conclusions and despair.

NGU.

[The Magistrate]

37. In All Truth, Sir

It is not, by now, completely clear that voting for that resolution, which was indeed viewed as the soundest tactical choice at the time, actually gained much, and it may have had adverse strategic effects.

The thing was, indeed, a very clever trap contrived by the enemy, in the face of which there really were no good choices....

[Dr Fate]

39. The DEM base did in fact present a good choice to Kerry, etc.

We even itemized all the Iraq lies and put them all over the web- a silver platter as it was. Any DEM "leader" with "Google" should have known the war was a scam.

But the DEM "leaders" who voted for that garbage decided to trust Bush, the Republican owned media and "swing voters" instead of us.

They did and still do have a good choice: Dont trust Bush or the media- and SAY SO.

[The Magistrate]

42. We Are Perhaps Talking At Cross-Purposes, Doctor

My expression may have been imprecise. My meaning of good was purely in a sense of political calculation. It was deemed that the harm done by opposition in the upcoming Congressional election might be too great, and that the war was certain to be pressed by the administration regardless of the opposition, which could not suffice to prevent the deed. That this latter calculation assumed a few Democrats would desert to the administration does not alter its accuracy; only two or three defections were necessary. Nonetheless the damage of the elections that year was great, and it may have hampered the Presidential effort last year.

[Coexist]

17. Kicking and promising to call

[Skidmore]

19. Hillary? Shoot,

Hillary's going to be the last person to stick her neck out now. She's ensconcing herself tightly in the right wing of whatever. I'm sorry, but I don't know where I stand on Hillary any more.

[Dr Fate]

35. Well, lets make sure she knows that we know that.

No more free passes for DEMs who wont say what needs to be said.

[goodhue]

20. great letter

[Dr Fate]

36. It would be even better if some top DEMS would read it on TV...

...they could all mention it on those cable TV debate/interview shows.

[frictionlessO]

21. Pretty pretty please! We wanted a voice and we have one in Conyers,

I can think of no bigger deal to get riled up about other than election fraud.
Our elected officials should feel the same.
What greater crime than an illegal war????

[captain crunch]

23. Why the fuck are all the prominent Dems ignoring

Conyers??? Its like they don't want to be associated with him.
How can we wake these bastards up and get them to acknowledge what's going on?

[ClassWarrior]

24. Why don't you ask THEM?

And for ideas on how to wake them up, see the original post.

We need to operate under the premise that these people will do NOTHING on their own until we train them to do the right thing. Therefore we need to just get used to the idea that for now it's up to US to make things happen. A pain in the ass, I know. But consider the alternative.

So instead of moping around whining about them, let's channel that energy into getting in their faces and demanding answers and action.

Never Give Up.

[BigBearJohn]

26. YES! CHANNEL YOUR ENERGY INTO THIS!! (((DEMAND ANSWERS)))

[Al-CIAda]

25. kick!

[BigBearJohn]

27. Question: Is it illegal to send a LTE to 1,000 email addresses?

Is that considered spam? and could I be prosecuted?

[Dr Fate]

28. Kick

n/t

[ClassWarrior]

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[ClassWarrior]

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[ClassWarrior]

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[ClassWarrior]

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[melissinha]

30. Emailed Doggett

Since my Senators are two of the most vile disgusting individuals in the Senate (Cornyn and Hutchison), I decided to send an email to Congressman Doggett who is on our side.

This was written quickly so its not perfect:


Please support the plight of Congressman John Conyers of Michigan with respect to well, everything. I am asking you as a constituent to support the efforts of Congressman Conyers with respect to election fraud and the newest issue, an investigation into the "2002 U.S.-UK agreement to attack Iraq" case. It is this type of faulty leadership that is stripping away the foreign relations that this country has worked so hard to build. It seems as if the President is more interested in creating scenarios to provide funds to defense contractors than he is interested in the actual financial and physical well-being of his country.

Sincerely,

Melissa v

[AuntiBush]

32. Done & Kicked

[BigBearJohn]

33. Kick for the 5 o'clock folks

[DearAbby]

34. Done and Kicked....Come on people, Just takes a few minutes

:kick: to da Moon!

[stillcool]

38. my little email....

Good evening,..I am emailing to ask your support for Rep. John Conyers, and his query concerning the recently leaked document, published by the Sunday London Times with the minutes of a secret meeting held in July 2002 by the British Gov't, regarding the Iraq War.
There is so much information available to all who seek it concerning the out-right lies, and distortions.. still.. being brought forth by this administration. Please, allow the truth to see the light of day and call this administration on what it is doing. Please...

[Dr Fate]

40. Are any DEMs on cable/network TV tonight talking about this????

Any word???