NBC Eve News: Mod Repubs revolting against far right

[Wiley50]

Did you hear what I heard?

[nytemare]

1. Poopie, I missed it!

Good for them. Too bad it wasn't before the election. What did the story say?

[kliljedahl]

2. Don't know, was watching Tweety

What did you hear?


Keith’s Barbeque Central

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

3. FINALLY the MSM is covering this!! On Edit: Link to story added

Damn, I missed the NBC eve news on the East Coast. I'm going to check their web page to see if it's in there.

Here's the link: www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7658085/

[Wiley50]

9. I never watch the crap either

But was walking through the LR and Mom had it on.
Good Catch there in PA
Knew someone here could find it.

So, is it anything, really.
That's why I put it here for discussion

wiley

[wryter2000]

4. Interesting

I never watch General Electric news. This sounds promising.

[femme.democratique]

15. LOL why don't they just change the name formally already!

[Quakerfriend]

5. What did they say??

[whometense]

6. Bush, moderates out of step on key issues

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7658085/

Will the rift divide the GOP or help create compromises?
By David Gregory
White House correspondent
NBC News
Updated: 6:47 p.m. ET April 27, 2005

WASHINGTON - As President George W. Bush is learning, the hard part about second-term politics is not your enemies, but your friends. And lately it's moderate Republicans giving the president the hardest time.

"I think the Republicans are more polarized then they ever have been," says Rep. Charlie Bass, R-N.H.

From the fight over Social Security, to the battle over John Bolton's nomination to the United Nations, to the fight over ending filibusters for judicial nominees and the GOP-led drive to intervene in the Terry Schiavo case, the White House appears out-of-step with Republican moderates.

"Many of the moderates feel that the party has moved too far to the right and that the conservatives have too much influence within the high councils of the party," says Marshall Whitman, who once worked for Arizona Republican Senator John McCain and now runs the Democratic Leadership Council.

[Quakerfriend]

8. Thank you. This could be the answer to our prayers

I know that my moderately Repug family is starting to grumble about what's going on in Washington.

Of course, they don't want to admit that they were wrong about anything.

Interestingly enough, I think it's gas prices that have started to wake the Sheeples from their deep slumber.

They are also a bit aghast by the fundies behavior!!

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

10. Theocracy no longer a joke now to many moderates. Seriously.

I, and many moderate Republican TRIED to warn the W supporting Republicans about this before the election. Some were swayed, some were not.

But NOW, oh ya, they're shell shocked. The Shiavo case was a big wake up, the brutal and excessive bankruptcy bill, and the rhetoric against judges and threats to stop the filibuster. Keep it up Rapturist Right...demand your pounds of flesh...it'll make it easier for the Democrats in 06/08 to make great gains and provide this country with a return to sanity.

[FreedomAngel82]

19. I think probably

it was the whole Schavio case and gas prices. When the Schavio ordeal started that's when I noticed more people speaking out against the republicans. Poll numbers lately are quite interesting. And of course the republicans in power will keep living in their little fantasy world and not care about anybody else except their own agenda(s).

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

14. Off topic but

How do you do that box with the blue background & text?

All I can do is paste the links.

Thanks.

[whometense]

18. You can get it from

the HTML lookup table. It's this:

<div class="excerpt">Text</div> , only use brackets instead of these guys < >.

Then you just put your clip in the "Text" spot.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

27. Thank you! nt

[Bonhomme Richard]

7. Did you notice this statement...................

"Many of the moderates feel that the party has moved too far to the right and that the conservatives have too much influence within the high councils of the party," says Marshall Whitman, who once worked for Arizona Republican Senator John McCain and now runs the Democratic Leadership Council."
No wonder the DLC is so screwed up.

[whometense]

21. Olbermann just ran

the same story - with David Gregory talking.

[AntiCoup2K4]

11. I smell a treasonous lying neocon shithouse rat.

This looks like a DLC ploy to keep their treasonous hands in power in the Democratic party, and it will be spun as the "only way to capture the fleeing moderate Republican vote."

The DLC are NOT moderates. Will Marshall is PNAC. Al From is a fascist. Marshall Wittman (quoted in the above article) has nearly every extremist right wing organization on the planet in his resume.

Let the republicans throw their neocons over, but don't empower the neocons trying to control THIS party.

[FreedomAngel82]

23. I did notice that

and thought it was kinda strange. Someone who used to work for McCain is now working for the DLC?

[pbartch]

12. THERE IS AN AOL STORY TOO. Here is a snip and a link

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050427022009990003

Hastert Leads GOP Retreat on Ethics Rules
Republicans Stung by Democratic Criticism Over DeLay
By LARRY MARGASAK, AP

WASHINGTON (April 27) - House Speaker Dennis Hastert urged fellow Republicans on Wednesday to abandon new rules that led to an ethics committee shutdown and his members appeared ready to follow him in retreat.

"I'm willing to step back," Hastert said after a closed-door meeting with members of the GOP rank and file. Republicans prepared for a vote as early as Wednesday evening.

The Republican lawmakers have endured weeks of intense Democratic criticism and hometown editorials complaining about GOP rule changes that critics have seen as an attempt to protect Majority Leader Tom DeLay from further investigation.

DeLay was admonished by the committee on three separate matters last year and new questions have been raised about whether a lobbyist paid for some of his foreign travel in violation of the rules.

The ethics rules in effect before the January changes allowed investigations to begin if the committee was evenly divided. The Republican changes provided for an automatic dismissal in case of a tie.

Rep. Joel Hefley, R-Colo., who supported the retreat, said the GOP move "doesn't mean Democrats will stop going after DeLay."

Hefley was dumped by Hastert as chairman of the evenly divided ethics committee after the panel admonished DeLay. He has been one of the few Republicans who opposed the Republican changes from the beginning.

Republican lawmakers, who would not be identified by name because their meeting was closed, said some didn't want to stop the fight, believing the party could still win the political battle to uphold the changes.

Despite the support for Hastert, Republicans have the politically sticky task of explaining their reversal after defending the rules changes for months.

In talking points prepared for the closed GOP meeting, Republican leaders said the GOP stood by the changes but believed it was more important "to have a functioning ethics committee that may be flawed" than a panel that couldn't function. Democrats have kept the committee of five Republicans and five Democrats deadlocked by refusing to provide any votes to start operations.

Rep. Alan Mollohan of West Virginia, the senior Democrat on the committee, said, "To this point the speaker's actions have been positive. The proposal will be considered and evaluated by the bipartisan yardstick."

At the same time, Mollohan and aides to Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi insisted that committee staff must be hired on a bipartisan basis. Republicans early this year unilaterally fired two holdover staff members.

Hastert bristled at talk of Democrats dictating committee staffing. "If they get one thing, they'll want another," he said in a brief interview.

"We raised their staffing. They have the ability to hire more staff," he added, referring to a large increase in the committee's budget.

Pelosi, the Democratic leader, told reporters that Republicans had decided to retreat under pressure. "I think they just took the heat," she said. "I think there has been an editorial in every paper in the country saying this is wrong."

Republicans have denied that the rules changes were designed with DeLay in mind, and Hastert told reporters outside the meeting Wednesday that his intention had been to create a new set of rules that was fair to all lawmakers, regardless of party. Given Democratic criticism, he said, "I'm willing to step back."

"We need to move forward with an ethics process," he added.

Referring to DeLay, Hastert said that one prominent Republican needed a functioning ethics committee because "right now he can't clear his name."

Associated Press Special Correspondent David Espo contributed to this story.


AP-NY-04-27-05 16:33 EDT

[ChiciB1]

13. Oh, I Just Loved That Link... MSNBC/Gregory!

Finally a itsy-bitsy glimmer of light. Let's just hope this keeps going!!

Nothing to Whoop about though, at least not yet!

[whometense]

24. I know -

but it's a beginning. ;-)

[alcuno]

16. Republicans are now a threat to religious liberty in this nation.

If Dems were smart, they would make this about REPUBLICAN attempts to infringe upon our religious freedom. Don't make it about the right wing, it's now THEIR party.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

17. Respectfully disagree...divide and conquer

I mean, didn't the Republicans do that to the Democrats by playing the 'morals/faith' card and stealing part of your base? IMHO

[alcuno]

22. And you could argue that it worked.

I do feel that my Catholic faith is being threatened by the Republican Party.

[peacetalksforall]

20. I think the ultra regular holy callers to C-Span sound as if they

are in a panic. Their voices and rhetoric gets more shrill each day. They were on an upward roll for too many years, but they went too far and even though they probably think they haven't gone far enough, they are raving at us.

That is the most negative aspect of living with them...their world is exclusive and full of hate for all our sins. That's the perception from where I view it.

[Quakerfriend]

25. Yeah, I see it that way too./

They are so out of control it's almost humerous...that is, if it weren't insane!

[pbartch]

26. turn on C-span 2 and watch AL GORE speak!!