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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:47 AM
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Repug. Hatch on Senate Floor just said that the nuclear option was a
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 10:47 AM by rodeodance
term coined by the Dems. He wants it called the constitutional option.
Hasn't anyone told him it was Lott was made up that term.
I hope the next person up corrects him.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:48 AM
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1. I heard that rat bastard say that on cspan this morning.
I don't know who coined it. Was it the Dems or the Reps? Each group says it's the other.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:49 AM
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3. It was Helmet-Head Lott.
NGU.


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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:44 AM
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48. Thanks.
I'm glad some Democrats are out on the airwaves telling everyone the truth at who coined it. Because if you listen to the repuke talking points, it was the Democrats and the media is helping them spread this lie.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:58 AM
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15. Here's a quote from Harry Reid on Monday about this ...
"They created those terms, and they’re going to wear them around their necks from now till Doomsday." -snip-

go here .....

http://www.airamericaradio.com/weblogs/alfrankenshow/index.php?/franken/senator_reid_on_nuclear_constitutional_gop_name_games
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:39 AM
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47. Me Too... Kinda Makes Ya Wanna
:nuke: :puke: AND :banghead:

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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:19 PM
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51. It Makes Them Predictable- We Should use This To Our Distinct Advantage!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:48 AM
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2. Sen. from Iowa (R.) this am said the same thing.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:49 AM
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4. The Iowa Sen. said it on Wash Jour this morning. Sorry but I forget his
name.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:52 AM
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10. Hatch is trying to be the historian right now.
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:49 AM
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5. this is the personal account/private account argument
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:03 AM
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19. yes, they want the Politically correct term
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:50 AM
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6. Went from Lott's Mouth To Cheneys Ears .......
and so on and so forth. These people don't think twice about lying anymore. Just blatant blatant blatant ....... Peace. :)
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:50 AM
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7. Media Matters is on this.
Go through the whole genesis of the term (from Republicans) and points out how the thugs are now trying to pin it on Democrats AND change the meaning of "nuclear option" to "shut down Senate action."

They. Are. Lying. Slime.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:53 AM
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12. so lets find that media matters article and sent to Hatch. lets all DO it.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:59 AM
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16. See Roland99's post in GD:Politics.
Just saw it, and it has both the link and Hatch's contact info.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:02 AM
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18. here is Hatch's web email address (only took me a few min. as I cut
and pasted most of the media matters article above.

http://hatch.senate.gov/index.cfm?Fuseaction=Offices.Contact
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:27 AM
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37. Done.
We are not all asleep out here in constituent land.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:51 AM
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8. Lott said it in that term first
At least, I had never heard anyone else term it that way before him.

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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:52 AM
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9. Yup. These are the new WH talking points
Gee, you didn't get the memo?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:53 AM
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11. Meanwhile, while the Congress argues over who coined a phrase
thousands of children go without health care, the environment gets ravaged and the deficit increases.
When will Congress address real issues?
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:54 AM
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13. Classic tactics.
I am so sick of this shit.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:57 AM
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14. Here is the Media matters showing it was Lotts term




http://mediamatters.org/items/200504260001

Watch this video clip:

* Quicktime
* Windows Media

Media adopts false claim that "nuclear option" is a Democratic term

Major media outlets have recently miscast the term "nuclear option" as a creation of Senate Democrats. These include even National Public Radio (NPR), the Los Angeles Times, and the New York Times, all of which had previously reported accurately that it was Senate Republicans who originated the term.

As several weblogs have noted, the term "nuclear option" -- referring to the Republican-proposed Senate rule change that would prohibit filibusters of judicial nominations -- was coined by one of its leading advocates, Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS). But since Republican strategists judged the term "nuclear option" to be a liability, they have urged Senate Republicans to adopt the term "constitutional option." Many in the media have complied with the Senate Republicans' shift in terminology and repeated their attribution of the term "nuclear option" to the Democrats.

Lott himself provided an example of the Republicans' deliberate rhetorical shift on the April 17 edition of ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos, which featured Lott and Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) discussing the proposed rule change:

SCHUMER: It goes against the checks and balances.

LOTT: That's why I call it the constitutional option. I went back this very morning and re-read the constitution.

SCHUMER: You once called it the nuclear option.

LOTT: Well, I am given credit for that.

SCHUMER: You are.

LOTT: I'm not sure I want it. I prefer to call it the constitutional option.

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 10:59 AM
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17. Contact Reid's office and demand an apology
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 11:00 AM by Norquist Nemesis
Toll free: 1-800-SOB-USOB

edit to add: Hatch's words are now in the record and it's another way to be used against Dems as being the "truth" unless it's corrected IMMEDIATELY.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:04 AM
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20. i do not mind them changing it--but then they LIE about who started
this whole business.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:07 AM
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21. MRS. Dole up now
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:11 AM
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22. she is c/o 'liberal' special interests groups--she must have said that
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:11 AM
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23. The only one Elizabeth Dole aims to correct...
Is her husband.

Now she's bashing MoveOn.org for advertising against banning the filibuster. Note to Elizabeth Dole: What the fuck was Frist doing with Justice Sunday??
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:14 AM
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25. You mean "Tax-Exempt Sunday?"
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 11:14 AM by ClassWarrior
(Don't let those fine houses of worship forget who's paying the bills around here... <LOL> )

NGU.


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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:13 AM
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24. HATCH IS A LIAR
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 11:14 AM by proud patriot
:mad:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:16 AM
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26. Dem Dubin just corrected Hatch--Go Durban!!!!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:17 AM
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28. He is explaining in a nice way what the filibuster does (need 60 votes)
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:17 AM
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29. Sen. Durbin rocks. Always has, always will.
NGU.


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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:17 AM
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27. Durbin is calling him on it right now.
YAY!
:applause:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:18 AM
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30. some sanity has come our way (so little of it nowadays)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:21 AM
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31. Dubin is laying it on Bush--saying he wants it and Repugs just
following along. Also brought in Cheney name.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:22 AM
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32. Says Repugs are not willing to stand up to Bush and say-enough is
enough. good, he is saying they are lapdogs!! te he
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:23 AM
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33. says that Hatch is suffering from "political amnesia"--te he
Good one Durbin. Bet Hatch is ready to hatch a chicken.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:24 AM
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34. He's such a clucking idiot!
;)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:26 AM
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36. here chicky chicky
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:24 AM
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35. Durbin is laying into Cheney seveal times also
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JamboGuide Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:28 AM
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38. SO now Durbin does NOT want Senate shutdown!???
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:30 AM
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40. I'm glad he pointed out that the Repugs..
thought of and used the government shut down first.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:32 AM
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42. I took it that he supported Reids compromise-the one that Frist said
NO to yesterday.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:29 AM
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39. says Newt was so embolded by Rush L. that no one would notice if
the Senate would shut down. He is saying tht if the senate does shut down--people WILL notice.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:30 AM
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41. he is including an editorial in Chicago Trib april 27 that supports the
Dems.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:34 AM
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44. up or down upr down all the time from the Repugs
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:33 AM
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43. Someone point out to this Jackass from Oklahoma...
the current polling information that has come out stating the THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE AGAINST BREAKING THE FILIBUSTER!!
Take you editorials from your conservative fish wrappers and shove them up your... well, you know where he can shove them.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:35 AM
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45. Sen Inhofe is SOOOO nauseating.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 11:38 AM
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46. LaTimes ed. is parroting the WH talking point of 'up or down" vote is
needed. Sen. OKLahoma is reading the editorial-believe it was yesterdays
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:06 PM
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49. i wondered when this term first came out, why repugs were
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 12:07 PM by seabeyond
using it. i didnt think it put them in good lite. i thought it was the dems saying it, thinking common guys,....then i realized the repugs were the ones putting it out and using it. so i was surprised. hey they get to own it. just another stupid. and bringing into clearity their manipulation of words, along with kuntz? townhall meeting on jon stewart

now no one can fall for it. tis out. we cant pretend the republicans arent doing htis
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 12:16 PM
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50. Kick !!!!!!!
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