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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:17 PM
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Shrub isn't giving the fundies much.
Except lip service. He hasn't funded faith-based initiatives too well, he said he won't introduce a federal marriage amendment, and he isn't going after roe v wade too strongly; the only thing he seems to be good at is destroying this nation's economy. Anyway, if and when the fundies wake up to these facts, when they are aroused from their collective ecstatic rapturous trance, will they vote Constitution Party (Roy Moore's stomping grounds lately) or will they form another party? Or will they just stop voting, having been burnt by this "politics" thing?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:20 PM
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1. I doubt the Rev. Moon will give up that easily
He's not about to waste all the money he's put into the so-called 'religious right' since the late 1970's. I'm sure he'll come up with some kind of 'anti-baby eating' initiative to get the fundies out in force at the next election.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:22 PM
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2. They're not that smart.
They think they own the country. They have no idea that the only real cause they are supporting is to help out the rich.

Morons.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:26 PM
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3. As they have for 25 years, the Republicans have used the Christian Right..
to get their man into the White House, promising to overturn Roe v.Wade
etc.

What seems to have changed is the Christian Right is getting more
insistant that the GOP come across on the promises they make during
the Presidential campaign, and forget as soon as they win.

And hopefully that will be the Neocons downfall.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:27 PM
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4. I believe 2 billion was handed out in 2004.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:31 PM
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6. For faith based initiatives?
Edited on Sun Apr-24-05 12:37 PM by charlyvi
please clarify. thanks.

Edit: Department of Labor states $19.8 million, but I think this is for '05.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/fbci/
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:25 PM
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11. Link to theocracy watch....
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:30 PM
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5. Do you think they will notice this time??
It would appear that the truly stupid amongst us (conservatives)
haven't figured it out yet.
And probably never will!
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:32 PM
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7. I don't know if they will.
They SHOULD, but I don't know if they will. I'm thinking they are ripe for a third party move, though. Or some of them may decide to withdraw from "worldly matters". It's a thought.
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:41 PM
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8. Why would he?
BushCo doesn't need their support since he can't run again. Instead he's passed the torch to Frist who's now out drumming up support among the fan-D'uh-Mental-ists with his Just-Us Sunday Road Show and Snake Oil Sales Pitch. That's par for the course in the way Repugnantcans deal with the fundies. Whip 'em up to get elected, throw 'em a crumb or two, then when you don't need their support anymore, pass 'em off to the next likely candidate ... and the whole cycle begins again.

It almost makes me feel sorry for the poor fundies who seem blissfully unaware they while they are prostate before the altar of His Bubba-ness Dubya the Mush-Mouthed, KKKarl Rove is picking their pockets coming up with one boogieman after another. ... Activist judges? Oh my! ... Terry Schiavo? Send us your bucks! ... Gay marriage? Dig a little deeper! ... Democrats hate 'people of faith'? Empty out the kids' college fund!
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 12:47 PM
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9. Maybe we can get frist indited for insiting the Fundies
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:14 PM
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10. Maybe they don't even need the fundies anymore.
Now that they have Diebold. :scared:
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 01:44 PM
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12. If the fundies were capable of waking up, they wouldn't BE fundies
I mean, think about it. They believe exactly what Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell tell them that God says.

Anyone who goes to that kind of extreme isn't going to wise up to Bush's lies and lip service anytime soon.

Its in their nature to be lied to and to be used. They almost crave it.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 03:59 PM
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13. I think they will continue to do as they are told.
Afterall,
"As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly."


Rather than form a new party, I think that some of them may found a new church based on Trailer Hitch Jesus and the Gas Stations of the Cross.



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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 04:31 PM
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14. He can't actually give them what they want.
Then they wouldn't be able to use the issues again in 2006, 2008, 2010, etc.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 04:41 PM
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16. Ding! Ding! Ding!
We have a winner! Keep dangling that carrot; the fundies are too stupid to see that they never get any closer.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 04:38 PM
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15. I love teasing my fundie relatives about this.
"Since 1973, you've been whining and whining about Roe, and since that time Republican presidential candidates have campaigned on the premise that their appointments to the Supreme Court would overturn it. Let's take a look at how that's ended-up, shall we?

"Hmm.. there are how many US Supreme Court justices? 9 - that's right! And of the current 9, how many were appointed by Republicans? 7. And how many justices' votes are needed to overturn Roe? 5."

"Soo.. despite having two more appointees than needed, the GOP has screwed you over. Only 3 - FEWER THAN HALF of your party's nominees - are willing to pull the trigger. Had the GOP really wanted to end abortion, they could've done it long, long ago. Instead, they get a good cause, and a retarded voting bloc willing to believe them on this issue. Wooow."

....

They REALLY REALLY don't like hearing that. It must be painful, having Justices Stevens and Souter and O'Connor and even Kennedy waved in their faces.
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 04:48 PM
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17. They want to stroke the fundy base
w/o really doing anything that will tick off the soccer moms.
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